Brian (1s):
Coming up on the GET, LEAN, Eat, Clean Podcast.
Colin (3s):
Doctors want you to have this lower normal, not too high cholesterol, but actually you see tons and tons of data coming out now and research and everything that higher cholesterol levels are associated with longer lifespan. But if you went to a doctor, they'd be like, that's not the case. Or whatever. And it's, you know, it's like, then you have medical miss, then you have things that are based on like the multi-billion dollar year statin industry, that numbers and things to support their monopolies on, you know, like whole big rabbit hole. But, you know, it's like you can't look at normal Americans that, or normal sick care. you know, we call it healthcare, but it's really sick care, right? Which is maintaining sick people for long periods of time. You can't look at that and really pay attention to, to any of the ranges or recommendations or anything they say. You really have to kind of come out and be rebellious and figure out what is optimal. Like based on how I feel, how I look, how I sleep, how I perform.
Colin (43s):
Those are the metrics that matter.
Brian (45s):
This week I interviewed the CEO of Wild Foods, Colin. Stuckert. Colin has been an entrepreneur in the health and wellness field for over 15 years. His perspective is rooted in eating whole foods and becoming as close to ancestral living as possible. We discussed the best ways to optimize your hormones, along with building quality sleep, with red lights, raising kids in the modern world, the importance of sunlight and grounding, building a resilient gut and his one tip to get your body back to what it once was. Really enjoyed my interview with Colin. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All, right? Welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. My name is Brian Gryn and I have Colin Stuckert on for the, it might be the third.
Brian (1m 27s):
Oh,
Colin (1m 28s):
It's like, it's one of those, it's like, it's like getting up there. Four or five.
Brian (1m 31s):
Okay. I have to, I meant to look. Let's just say fourth time.
Colin (1m 36s):
I think it, I think it is fourth time. Yeah.
Brian (1m 37s):
And his renovated happy to
Colin (1m 38s):
Be here.
Brian (1m 39s):
Yeah, happy to have you there. Glad you're doing well. You're in the Tampa area, right?
Colin (1m 44s):
Yeah, north St. Pete. and we also live on the beach in the studio. Like we're all a bit closer to the beach side, so a lot of the stuff around here got just crushed. In fact, this area I'm at, like, there's a lake behind this, but apparently it flooded up to, there's a trailer there, a car there, and we're inland. We're not even by the beach. And, and we still had flooding a couple feet here. One car was ruined. It was in the parking lot. The trailer out here got kicked around. Crazy. It's crazy. Yeah.
Brian (2m 7s):
Well, hopefully none of no more of that for this year. Yeah.
Colin (2m 11s):
Well we have, we have a year to hopefully not go through it again.
Brian (2m 15s):
Yeah, no kidding. Oh, no kidding. And CEO of wild foods, right? Is that your main endeavor right now?
Colin (2m 24s):
Yeah. Well, And, now InterHealth and I can kind of show the story of where we're at with that and, and, and the backstory of the brand And, what we're doing now. Some exciting stuff. Yeah. It's up to you how, whatever you want me to talk about. Well,
Brian (2m 34s):
Let's, let's, for people who haven't listened to your prior interviews, maybe give 'em a little background about, you know, your start into wild foods and, and sort of the health space.
Colin (2m 42s):
Yeah, yeah, man, I got heavily into CrossFit, intermittent fasting, paleo primal diet way back in the day. And then Bulletproof Coffee, all that, that led me to getting obsessed with different ingredients and supplements and functional foods. And I was like, well, what goes into these products? Because there's a label and doesn't, it doesn't say a whole lot. And there's like these random brands all around. I didn't really know who to turn to, to get really deep into the sourcing side of where this stuff comes from. So I just basically did it myself, sourced a high quality non tona grass, whe protein from Australia, you know, literally 10 years ago at this point. And then brought that home, used it myself, decided to see if this would sell on Amazon.
Colin (3m 22s):
It did. Kind of took off, added one product at a time. And. now we are 10 years later with just like this huge up and down rollercoaster story and I'm still going at it But it, it just, it started from a principle of like, I, I'm obsessed with what I'm putting in my body. I also made a connection with like the quality ingredients, the quality of supplements, and like if, if the quality is there, my, my health outcomes are always much better. So that just became a base principle for me. So whatever I put in my body, the highest quality you can get as close to whole real food nature as possible. That's kind of the base principle that everything that I've built since then is based on. And then,
Brian (3m 54s):
So what was your, your first product was? Which one?
Colin (3m 58s):
It was that Nonna Grasso Ray protein. and we still sell to this day. It's a great
Brian (4m 0s):
Product. Yeah. And you mentioned off your the Wild man stack. Tell us a little bit about that one. Yes. Yeah,
Colin (4m 7s):
Yeah, yeah. Well, so 39 and we can go deep in this. I don't know how deep you wanna go, but, you know, 39-year-old male, I'm the type of guy that will sleep eight hours a night every night. 'cause I've prioritized sleep a long time ago when I realized that if I didn't get sleep, I felt like crap. And then I, I lost an entire day. It's also the reason I don't drink because you feel like crap and then you lose a whole day. And to me that's like, I don't get those days back. We have maybe 30,000 of those if we're lucky. So every day to me is extremely precious. And so that kind of helps keep me in check. And the point of that is that I would sleep eight hours a night and not feel rested the next day or have like the afternoon slump. And I'm sitting here trying to, trying to work away and trying to, you know, build a, a better future and I would get sluggish. And I was like, for me, that's, it was really hard to deal with it.
Colin (4m 49s):
Like it was a big deal. So I was like, what do I need to do to address this? Started looking into my hormones. I always thought, well, I'm a leaner guy. I probably, I'm probably in the lower end of the, of the testosterone spectrum. Sure enough, that's exactly what the number said. I actually also had problem with free t 'cause there's like total testosterone, there's free t And. you know, I'm not actually an expert on all the different things, but I do know that the numbers on the charts reflected with how I was feeling. So I started looking to natural compounds to optimize that. We launched the wild manage that kind of as part of the wild ethos where if I'm looking for something personally in my health, if I see that there's a health gap or there's something that I should be taking, I usually try to source that for myself. And then I assume that other people will be interested in the same thing. And that's kind of what's worked so far.
Colin (5m 31s):
So the Wild Man stack's 13 and one natural minerals, herbals and really powerful compounds, ton of research behind them. We put it all together in one stack because guys need something simple and easy and we're really excited about it. It's like we haven't even really promoted it. We've been selling for a few months and it just kind of has just done its thing taken off and we started paying attention to it and like, whoa, maybe there's actually something here. Sub currently diving into that with the team, kind of a whole men's hormone thing. And if you know anything about men's hormones right now, just statistically, like there's these charts where you can look at fifties, the drop in testosterone from the fifties to today, the drop in sperm count, right? Then even fertility is a problem, not for men and women, but it's like all of these things in our toxic environment are related to these, these trends.
Colin (6m 12s):
And, you know, we're trying to help guys protect themselves a little bit, basically from the toxic environment that is basically designed to make men into less men.
Brian (6m 20s):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of factors, right? That can affect testosterone, whether it's the nutrients that you mentioned. I know, I, I was just looking at the ingredient list. I've heard a lot about zinc and you have that in the, in your stack.
Colin (6m 32s):
Yep.
Brian (6m 33s):
But also
Colin (6m 33s):
It's, I mean, it's also integral for a million other things, but it's like, if that's missing, you know, and you're a guy, like it affects everything downstream.
Brian (6m 41s):
Yeah. And zinc's not always so easy to get into the, into the diet. you know, I think oysters, if I, if I recall correctly, are fairly high in zinc.
Colin (6m 50s):
Yep. A lot of seafood, but also, you know, like organ meats, deep, deep, deep type of game meats. And so much of our modern fruit supply is those things just aren't popular. They don't sell, like, it's all the, it's all the, you know, more mass consumed products, whether it's like chicken breast or it's like even fish, like, you know, white fish, which has a, it's great for protein But, it almost no nutrition, you know, chicken, literal, no nutrition in it, you know, it's fine. It's better than eating grains or whatever, but it's still a far cry from really nutritious meat like red meat or organs and things like that. And, you know, that's what we have to do with this modern food supply is try to kind of remineralize and, and, and re nutrient nutrient eyes our food supply. And that's why there is such a need for supplements, even though I'm also like a foundational fan of just real food.
Colin (7m 34s):
Like eat real food, local foods, ideally on a farm or whatever nearby. It's just not accessible for most people. So it's just part of the mi modern environment. That's why, you know, that's why we do what we do, basically help people get a little bit back to nature, right?
Brian (7m 46s):
I think in a perfect world, we wouldn't need supplements, right, per se, but no,
Colin (7m 50s):
You wouldn't need it. You, you also wouldn't need to drink like eight, eight glasses of water a day. And like, there's all these things that are, these modern inventions that are very commercialized and, and maybe some of them there's a benefit to a certain point, like a certain minimum viable dose, right? But it's all because of our mismatched environment. And this is probably what, what we talked about a lot, a little bit on the last episode, kind of the ancestral mindset, which is what me personally and, and the company is, we based everything upon. It's like what is natural for humans? That's what is the way we used to live our ancestors. And what is normal today is actually unnatural. So you have normal and then you have natural and, and, and in most cases, in a modern environment, they're on opposite ends of the spectrum. And so what we're trying to get as far away from normal as possible, because normal is sick, normal is declining, sperm counts, declining tea counts, et cetera.
Colin (8m 34s):
Natural is increasing all these things and just being a thriving beast basically. But natural is also living in the forest all day long and eating dirt and hunting your own food. And it's like, we're not gonna do that either. So we're trying to take modern inventions and, and, and, and conveniences and try to just like, you know, get the right balance. And that's, it's tricky. It's a lot of things you have to consider.
Brian (8m 53s):
And I would add like almost becoming optimal would be maybe a good mindset because like, like you said, normal is like if you go to the doctor and they give you these ranges of where you should fall, well that's compared to the average po person, average population. Sick,
Colin (9m 6s):
Sick people, basically.
Brian (9m 7s):
Yeah. Right. So like, I just went through FDNI don't know if you're familiar with functional diagnostic nutrition and their reference ranges on a lot of stuff are just way different than what you would see normally. And so I think if we just hold ourselves to a higher standard that, that, that alone can help us sort of excel and, and, and become more optimal because
Colin (9m 29s):
Yeah, I mean one point Yeah, go ahead.
Brian (9m 31s):
No, I was just say, because we, I was gonna, yeah, go ahead.
Colin (9m 34s):
I was gonna say that one example is cholesterol. So doctors want you to have this lower normal, not too high cholesterol, but actually you see tons and tons of data coming out now and research and everything that higher cholesterol levels are associated with longer lifespan. Sure, yeah. But, but if, but if you went to a doctor, they'd be like, that's not the case. Or whatever. And it's, you know, it's like then you have medical miss, then you have things that are based on like the multi-billion dollar year statin industry that publish numbers and things to support their monopolies on, you know, like whole big rabbit hole. But, you know, yeah. It's like you can't look at normal Americans that, or normal sick care. you know, we call it healthcare, but it's really sick care, right? Which is maintaining sick people for long periods of time. You can't look at that and and really pay attention to, to any of the ranges or recommendations or anything they say.
Colin (10m 17s):
You really have to kind of come out and be rebellious and figure out what is optimal. Like based on how I feel, how I look, how I sleep, how I perform. Those are the metrics that matter. And then you might have some blood work that associates with those, you know, like when I was feeling sluggish, I looked at my testosterone, I had high cortisol, I have, you know, probably stressful life, entrepreneurship, whatever. Well, I, I don't feel stressed, but my body perceives it as stress. 'cause it's always just like fight or flight. And that's something that I've had to really focus on and work on where sauna walks disconnecting, not being on the phone at night, you know, all these different mitigation strateg I had to do. And I do have slightly higher cholesterol on some of the quote unquote bad cholesterol. But to me, like, I don't even look at that and think, oh no, like if anything, I might even wanna pay more attention to it. Maybe I can optimize that a bit more.
Colin (10m 57s):
Maybe I can increase my bad, my quote unquote bad am my good. At the same time I wanna have high across the board or what, you know, whatever it is. So you really have to just be kind of a, an independent health researcher, an experimenter on, on yourself with your stuff and take some of the most of the stuff with a grain of salt,
Brian (11m 12s):
Actually, no doubt about it. I mean, I, I think now, now you're seeing these companies come out. I know Meric Health is like one of 'em. I I, I've gotten blood work done from them where, you know, they'll, they'll hook you up with someone to sort of go over it. And it won't necessarily be like a mainstream health professional that, or a doctor that is sort of old school where, you know, I think the new school thing is sort of the take your health into your own hands and sort of, like you said, take everything that the doctor says with a grain of salt and maybe double check everything. Yeah,
Colin (11m 42s):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, personalized medicine is definitely the future. Yeah. And it's, it's just part of the decentralization of, of all these things, right? Which we, I think we might have talked to bit about Bitcoin in the past, but you see the decentralization of everything from big, from governments to big businesses to smaller businesses. you know, like now AI is giving individuals, small companies like this power that you could never have before. And what it's doing is it's taking consolidated power structures and it's spreading them out. And it's, and it's really empowering more towards the individual versus the consolidated state or nation state or corporation or whatever. And it's absolutely amazing. And it's just part of a cycle of history. Like we'll probably go through this decentralization period, and then there'll be some kind of consolidated thing again, and then there'll be a rebellion.
Colin (12m 22s):
It's like generation to generation, you know, it's like the old rebels against the new of the young and, and then, and then the young becomes old and then they're young rebel against them. And it's like the cycles of history, which really actually create the most prosperity for all But. it is a very messy process. It's not like, and sometimes it's war, sometimes, you know, it's famine, it's sickness, it's pestilence, whatever, that has to kind of reset things and then you start over, kind of like, you know, the force that burns down pays away for new growth.
Brian (12m 45s):
Yeah. Well I can, I can, I can tell you're high on caffeine right now or something.
Colin (12m 50s):
I'm also just trying to like, like I said, there's no AC in the studio and it's like I have to move a little bit otherwise, you know, try to like ignore that. But I'm also high energy anyways. Like I'm,
Brian (12m 59s):
You know, no, I've noticed that. Yeah, I've noticed that. Type A, type A, right. That's all good. Yeah.
Colin (13m 4s):
Type, type A plus plus or something. Well,
Brian (13m 7s):
Right. Well you mentioned sleep and I, I find I've a lot of male clients and, and I'll, a lot of times the first thing I'll ask them is how do you sleep? And a lot of times it's, it's not good. I find this is as you age, it's like a sort of the struggling, just a struggling like crisis in the world really is sleep. What, what do you do to sort of help optimize it?
Colin (13m 27s):
Yeah, there's a few things here and there's a lot of recent good podcasts and books that have come out. Like, you know, there's some sleep researchers that have that are like, why we sleep? Or some books like that that are getting a lot of attention, rightly so. I personally don't spend a lot of attention. I I don't direct a lot of attention to them because it's not a problem for me. But I also long ago, kind of created a routine that that works and I prioritize sleep or whatever. So it, most of when it comes to sleep is simply acts and environmental changes. And then your body will do its thing. The single most important thing people need to understand is that that sun out there is the reason that you're supposed to sleep in wake at certain times. It's circadian rhythm. People have heard that. But what does that mean? It simply means that when our ancestors live in the wild and the sun started blaring on their face, their biology would wake up, it would release all the hormones that wake you up, cortisol, whatever, especially in the eyes, like you open your eyes or sunlight.
Colin (14m 17s):
It's, it's like the immediate wake up. Everything your body switches on at night, the amber light, you see a lot more red light, infrared, whatever you see, you see much less of the thing that's probably up there right now, which is blue light. Right? A lot of people probably heard the dangers of blue light, but what does that actually mean? And this is where I want people to try to understand this. It simply means like when you have blue light from this screen or this computer and you're looking at it like 10:00 PM at night, your biology thinks it's noon, it thinks it's 1:00 PM So it's trying to Optimize your Hormones to be in a awake state, maybe even a fight or flight state, maybe in a state you should be going and hunting, doing things, whatever. When you have that at 10, 11, 12 o'clock at night, your bi your biology is so out of whack with what it's trying to do because you're trying to wind down, right?
Colin (15m 0s):
You're trying to, you want your hormones to come down and go to sleep. And when you have this blue light assaulting you from all these different things, even just these fluorescent lights, or most people have these bright lights that when I go to Airbnbs, I'm assaulted. I turn on these B bright, bright LEDs that are usually daylight, very bright, balanced, and we're to the point where we'll unscrew bulbs in the Airbnbs and we bring our own orange lights because I can't even look at it. Like if I'm inside, I'm just like, it hurts. But that took a while to kind of learn. You kinda learn that at a heuristic, right? And so if you are being assaulted by artificial light, blue light screens, whatever, and you're doing that late into the night foundationally, nothing else you do with sleep is really gonna matter. That's just the first principle you have to solve that candle lights, orange lights, orange reading lights.
Colin (15m 40s):
They even have these bigger, like slightly bigger ones. Orange bulbs, amber bulbs, low blue light bulbs. Now this market is growing. There's a ton of options. We actually use red lights at night for the kids just in the bath. 'cause it's, it's actually bright, but it's none of the blue. So that's actually a good hack as well. I'm a big fan of red light.
Brian (15m 54s):
I was just gonna say, I, I, that reminded me I bought those, your orange reading light. I saw that on your website. Now I was like, 'cause I read at night and I have, a lot of times my wife won't, you know, I just don't want the lights on, right? So I just use a, a reading light and you have a, that orange glow reading light,
Colin (16m 10s):
It's amazing. Which bought, I bought a hundred. I've personally used a hundred of them in my lifetime. And like the kids always lose 'em or whatever. But it's like if I travel without that, I'll Amazon Prime one same day and pay the extra shipping. That's how important that is, right? Yeah. But I long ago made that connection to just like bright light whatever, and then the research started coming out and it was like, this is obvious. And then I went deep into red light, you know, 'cause that's why we're selling on the website and whatever. I went deep into that because that's, that's a whole nother topic and, and it's amazing, whatever. But, but what red light is supposed to do and how it explains the story of this blue light is the red light. And, and, and I believe the reason that the red light technology and the near infrared is so powerful and there's so much research. There's like 30,000 plus studies on this showing how positive this stuff is, is from a health perspective. It's because what it's doing, it's balancing out some of the blue, right?
Colin (16m 52s):
Because at night you have all this blue, but you don't have the ne the red and the near infrared. And there's a ton of research that actually shows. And then we can get into like the sunburn thing. There's a ton of research that shows that the certain rays from the sun, even if you have a lot of the, you know, quote unquote harmful rays, the other rays help balance it out and protect you. They're protective against things like skin cancer. But you have to be getting the whole spectrum of the sun when you start breaking it up in these different ways. You're getting all these imbalances and like, like, it's like if you think about your diet, we get this, I gotta have magnesium, I gotta eat like these foods. I have to have like fat, fat, protein, carbs, whatever. Most people understand that there's certain, certain nutrients your body needs to consume. Some of which, if you don't, you die. Like if you don't get vitamin Z scurvy, you die. Right?
Colin (17m 32s):
The sun is actually the ultimate life generator of everything on earth. Yet we don't think about sun or light as nutrition. That was like the big epiphany for me when I realized that the sun has this full spectrum of rays. It's up for a certain period of time that attracts exactly the circadian rhythm. It goes down, we get sleepy, it comes up, we, we go, we we wake up. It was a game changer. And then I started looking at light as nutrition and then I started thinking about like, okay, if I'm not going outside as much and I'm indoors more blue light high, other light low, that correlates with fatigue. It corate with lack of sleep, so on and so forth. So, you know, I'll pause there. I we can go wherever you want, but, but I think people need to start thinking about the sun as nutrition and they need to get their daily dose and they need to go outside for an hour a day.
Colin (18m 13s):
And that's just like their, their daily sun nutrition plan basically. And it would solve so many downstream problems if people started doing that.
Brian (18m 20s):
Yeah, no, that is true. And I guess I never thought of sun as nutrition, but yeah, I mean a lot of times I, you'll hear a lot of like quote unquote sleep experts talk about just seeing sunlight first thing in the morning, go out for like a morning walk. Is that something that you implement?
Colin (18m 34s):
Yeah, it's, it's the, so the two things, the single most important thing you can do is morning sunlight, 30 minutes, nighttime sunlight, 30 minutes. Because what is happening? It's like, you know, a targeted protein shake, I wanna take it after my workout. It's like, get in my muscles. Whatever you're trying to target the sunlight to your biology to prime you for sleep. That's to come, right? So when the sun starts coming down, what, what color is it? Like oranges. Yeah, like reds weight. It's not bright and blue, right? It's like,
Brian (19m 1s):
Yeah. you know,
Colin (19m 1s):
It it it's like calming. It's like nice. It's also part of the reason we like campfire so much and a lot of our evolution is us sitting around a campfire. Well there's a, there's an extra abundance of near infrared and red light which tracks with the sun coming down as well, right? When you start realizing everything is from the sun, that like, that's the energy force. Everything is from there. And even the earth, you could say it's just a bundle of stored energy. As Einstein said, that if you burn then it releases the same energy from the sun. I mean it is crazy fascinating stuff like when you go deep into it, but it's a targeted dose of nutrition for your sleep. And it's a target dose of nutrition in the morning for your day. And that's what a circadian rhythm is. It's supposed to track to the sun, but not just track to the sun, not just be the same time actually you have to like actually get the sun. If you stay inside all day and you go to bed early and you go to bed late, like okay, you're, you know, you're kind of tracking it, but your, but your biology's supposed to be interacting with the sun.
Colin (19m 48s):
That means no walls, no nothing in, in in the way there right
Brian (19m 53s):
Now.
Colin (19m 53s):
So I mean, yeah, it's nutrition basically.
Brian (19m 55s):
Well you know, living in the Midwest, I mean you're down south, but like, you know, we're having winter coming soon and a lot of times you'll go days without the sun even getting out, even though the sun's not out. I know that can still be effective, but red light therapy might be an option. I know you talk about it on your website,
Colin (20m 11s):
It's, yeah, absolutely. Yep. Yeah. And it's an option for everybody because we still spend the majority of our time inside. Very few of us are spending, if you had to just track inside versus outside, most of us are like inside here, outside down here. And maybe the most active of us that like to hike and go outside, they might even still be 50 50 'cause they're still sleeping inside most of the time. you know, I guess it's only like when you're camping and you're literally sleeping under the stars, are you actually getting the most ancestrally appropriate dose of the sun as possible? So what that means is that for every extra indoor minute or whatever, you need to try to mitigate that a little bit with some other things. And red light ne and Friday is great 'cause you can just pop it on, put it right there, you know, you can use it instead of blue light. It's amazing. I have like, I have three units here.
Colin (20m 51s):
I have like four in my house. I just try to have 'em in every corner to use it. And then I have the orange lights that I can take with me. It's a game changer. And I think if guys are struggling with sleep, just, just fixing your nights, your night, your light stuff is game changer.
Brian (21m 3s):
When do you, when do you like to use it? I have, I have a red light in my basement. It actually, I'm very, I'm blessed. I have an infrared sauna and then I put a red light Yep. In there. In there. So I'll go Same. Yep. Yeah. Okay. So I'll go in the sauna and put the red light on for maybe 15 minutes or so. Let's just, yep. Do you use the red light? I'll just all throughout the day or do certain times or
Colin (21m 24s):
Any You can possibly fathom using it like anytime. Okay. And anytime you can use it in replacing some blue light, like turn off the overhead lights, turn on the red point it that direction. 'cause it's pretty aggressive and it just illuminates the whole room. That's usually at night, that's like the kids wind down. We have a small roller red light unit we face to the corner. It hits the corner but the light spreads. So you can actually have a pretty good visual of seeing without turning on the overheads. 'cause the overheads are more of a daylight balance and they just play and they'll like, will like lay on the ground And, you know, kinda get 'em ready for bed. I'm telling you, even just winding kids down, it's like, use something like that. Or in the bath they spend 20 minutes in the bath and you don't wanna turn those bright lights, LEDs, whatever you have, turn on a red light. Or even just sometimes the orange reading light, if I want a little bit dimmer, I'll angle that to the corner on high power and it's usually enough light and it just like, it, it just calms your biology, you know?
Colin (22m 12s):
It's amazing. I mean light is one of these things that it's like, I think it'd be a next big health trend that people are gonna really catch onto. And like red light's kind of seeding it. But we're still so stuck on like whether you should eat meat or plants. you know, like there's still so much work that we have to do with educating people, you know, like we're kind of stuck in some of the, the older nutrition war still because these, these factions have been created. But I do think more, more people that are waking up to this stuff are then exploring these other options. Sauna, red light, you know, like grounding is a big thing that going outside and walking on the ground, which is free and then getting your sunlight at the same time is like, actually for me, my ideal goal. Morning 30 minutes of that. And then at night my goal is to do a beach walk of like an hour where I get sunlight, I get grounding, I get some water on the feet.
Colin (22m 53s):
'cause that's actually really good for grounding. And yeah, I mean it's, it's amazing that we, if we just get back to how our ancestors lived, we do better. Just like any animal that is studied by a biologist, if you take the animal out of its environment, put it in a zoo, you can literally see how sick it gets. You put it back into its environment and they're thriving, right? We're the same way, but we have this hubris where we think we're exempt from the animal kingdom.
Brian (23m 17s):
Question for you, Colin. What's one thing you've changed your mind on? I mean, you've been in the health business, you know, let's say in the, over the past 10 years. What's like one thing you've changed your mind on? Yeah,
Colin (23m 27s):
That's a good question. And, you know, this is obviously related to, to nutrition. I mean there's a lot of things I've changed my mind on with business economics, like history, philosophy. But I'll try to keep it a little focused on theme here. I mean, what comes to mind is kind of the whole plant versus animal based actually that comes to mind because there's definitely ways to do pretty well on either, but I, but you know, like for me it's like what is the most ancestry appropriate? Also, what is the harder or easier, and I lean way more towards an animal based because I think that, I think it's more necessly appropriate. I think all your nutrition is there, you actually have to supplement less. 'cause you get a lot of it from animal foods, et cetera. And then I think, and and I, and I also don't think that the whole kind of like bashed plants, which you could even see somebody like Paul Saldino, he's definitely softened his stance on this.
Colin (24m 12s):
Where he was like, first plants are out to kill you, right? And now it's like, well you can eat 'em if you want to. And I mean most of us realize that if we eat some plants here and there, like it doesn't kill us and we don't generally feel worse on it. So I think that's a little bit too extreme in that way if you have. But if you have an autoimmune issue and you're eating copious, copious amounts of, wait, did I lose you? Sorry. Okay, no go. If you're eating copious amounts of like spinach and you have certain oxalates and you've oxalate overload, like there are certain medical reasons why you might not wanna eat plants. But for the average person, it's put 'em in your diet, it's not a huge deal. And then some people that wanna be more animal-based or more plant-based, they're gonna have to probably supplement. Like there's gonna be all these other health interventions you're gonna have to do. But if that's for an ethical or moral reason or whatever and you wanna do that, that's fine.
Colin (24m 53s):
But I think my biggest thing is like, just don't, please don't try to convince yourself of the world that it is healthier or better or more optimal or even more ethical. 'cause it's not, if you actually look at the data But, it can still work for you. And I don't care, like I'm not here to tell you what to eat, And what not to eat. I'm more interested in like, what are the facts? What is most successfully appropriate? How did hunter gatherers live and eat? Which they had periods of time where they ate a lot of meat. They had period of time where they might've eaten no meat and they just would've eaten some tubers. And like, you have all this os oscillation, so there's no easy, clear, black or white answer there. But I think just being a little bit more open to people wanting to kind of optimize for various factors, not just pure health factors. Because that's the other thing, some people want to eat plants, not just for health, but for ethical reasons.
Colin (25m 34s):
I think I've softened on that. I don't know if I've really changed my mind. 'cause I, I always felt that way. Like I didn't, like I was never, the plants are gonna kill you. But
Brian (25m 42s):
I think that, so you, you softened your, you softened your stand.
Colin (25m 45s):
I softened it. Okay. Yeah. A little bit, you know.
Brian (25m 47s):
Okay. So that, that, that was the first thing that came to your mind.
Colin (25m 50s):
Yeah, I'm sure there's some other things I've, I've just kind of changed my mind on, but I, yeah, they're not, I'm not really, they're not really coming to mind right now. And also, I guess this is something I could say, I, over the past probably five years through this kinda entrepreneurship and through this nutrition journey, I've developed more of a, I think what's his name says, it's the strong opinions loosely held. I think it was like a famous venture capital guy that said that the bald guy, Andreessen Horowitz or whatever his name is, mark Andreessen. I'm more that way where I have these base principles that I believe are probably truths foundational. But you know, like those could also change. Or some things could come in and then everything's stacked on top. I'm much more like, yeah, well, maybe, maybe not.
Colin (26m 31s):
I, I think I've just become less dogmatic in general. That's probably the best way to answer it. Like, over 10 years being in this business, doing this stuff myself, you know, like struggling with hormone stuff myself. you know, I've become much more open to different things now. But that's also on a bedrock of pretty strong principles. Like for me, the ancestral mindset of like studying our ancestors and how they lived. For me that's like a very, very solid principle. Like, you'd have to really convince me otherwise, or I'd have to see for myself. But, but that doesn't mean that in the next a hundred years, maybe there's some miracle intervention that we've been able to do with advancements in science where we can literally just like turn certain things off and we can kind of play God that way. Maybe that's gonna happen. But for me, it's still a base principle that we should try to live as close to the way our ancestors live as possible.
Colin (27m 13s):
Because every single health outcome for me personally, And what I've seen others gets better. Yeah.
Brian (27m 17s):
Yeah. No, I mean, I mean you're seeing this with a lot of different people, sort of this ancestral mindset. But, you know, we're also living in modern times and you gotta sort of be realistic. But you, you can also be, I like to think just trying to be optimal. 'cause like ancestrally, my gosh, they, they've probably gone days and days fasting And, you know? Right. Like, one thing I've changed my mind on is I think that you can over fast and you can overdo it Sure. From that spectrum, which is something that I sort of, yeah, I went down that route and I was like, yep, it wasn't the best health outcome. So, 'cause you know, I don't know if you know Brad Kerns, he's,
Colin (27m 49s):
I know the name. Yeah.
Brian (27m 50s):
Mark Sisson. Brad Kerns, yeah. Brad's been on the podcast probably he might beat you by one or so. He is been on it probably five times. But he is got, yeah, he's got a good podcast called the B Rad. But actually that'd be a great connection for you. But he, they talk about living ancestrally, but you know, in modern times. So you gotta sort of, you know, anyway.
Colin (28m 6s):
Yeah, I'll check him out. Yeah,
Brian (28m 7s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brad's a great guy. But I was gonna say, so what would you say, I know you're an entrepreneur, you're busy, you have how many kids? Two,
Colin (28m 16s):
Three.
Brian (28m 16s):
Three. How do you, what's your way of integrating this with your kids? I'm, I'm, I'm curious 'cause like I, we don't have kids maybe soon. And so I was just curious and I know there's probably plenty of people on this podcast that do, and I just feel like kids are like, oh, well give it to the kids to eat. you know, it's like,
Colin (28m 39s):
Yeah, no, no, I don't, I don't think of my kids as garbage disposals at all. Okay. Because that's what that mindset is to me. I think that's, I think that's complete and utter bullshit. And I think that some of that stuff even borderline on, on abuse, right? And I'm not, like, I have, I have, I'm a parent, so I can say that like, kids are mini versions of us. That's all they are. And they're growing and thriving and the, the, you know, the propaganda is that like everything that they should eat should have sugar in it or should be some highly processed thing or whatever. And that nothing could be further from the truth. Kids need to be eating whole real foods. They need to be eating like raw foods, animal foods, like protein focused, all these things. Now they can generally do better with more carbs because they're so freaking active and they're growing and whatever. But that doesn't also mean that you just should just, they should only eat carbs because you also have things like eating lots of fat and protein.
Colin (29m 21s):
Your body can turn those into glucose in the bloodstream and use it, et cetera. So I just think that like the idea that you would feed kids toxic foods like that we know from this mass produced food industry is literal industrial foods with all kinds of crap they put in it. And high heat processing, shipped all around the world in plastic NBPA, whatever that needs to just die. Kids just need to eat whole real foods. And then within that, like if you feed kids whole real foods that are home cooked, And, you know, sometimes they're eating something a little bit sweeter, sometimes they're not. It's kind of like Mi Michael Pollan's thing. The author, he, he says that, or his recommendation for nutrition is like, eat whatever you want, but make it yourself.
Colin (30m 1s):
And honestly, for like 99% of the population, yeah. That would actually be the best fricking diet ever. Like if you wanted to make some amazing cheesecake or whatever, make it yourself. My mom, my wife makes sourdough. Yeah. It's, it's, it's wheat, you know? And, and we try to use like a better thing and, and, and there's gluten in there, but it's still sourdough and everyone is fine. Nobody dies on it. Even though generally I'm not a fan of bread or sour, you know, bread in general or grains, you know, but it's also homemade with three ingredients, salt, flour and water. you know, and then it's got the natural fermentation. 'cause she has a start and everything for kids, the more you can home, cook their food, like make their food and not give them food outta a package, the better they're gonna do as an adult. The more you do that yourself, the better you're gonna do.
Colin (30m 41s):
So for me, that's just kind of a first principle. And that's the best way to think about it with kids. Just make stuff at home.
Brian (30m 46s):
Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I totally agree with you. I've talked about this so many times, like cooking for yourself. Like my wife and I do that she makes, she'll make desserts and there's like, she just made like ice cream, if you want to call it that, with two ingredients. Like bananas cream.
Colin (31m 0s):
Yeah. Oh, it
Brian (31m 1s):
Was banana based. I I should call it ice cream. Yes. Cream. But no, this is literally bananas and like a tablespoon of peanut butter and blended it and it was like, you freeze it, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. You give that to your, yeah, yeah. You give that to your kids a be wow, this is really good. I mean, yeah.
Colin (31m 15s):
Well we make raw milk ice cream, So. we do raw milk. Raw cream. Now the raw cream is really expensive, hard to find. So sometimes we'll do organic cream, raw milk, 'cause we have gallons and gallons of it. And then we do six egg yolks and probably like a fourth cup of maple syrup, whatever. I'm not a fan of honey as much, but you could also use honey and that, you know, that actually that ice cream brand ice cream for bears is actually really good. People should look into that. It's basically a honey sweetened ice cream that's kind of like, I think that's seen that taken off, right? Now I. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We make that at home and it is freaking amazing, right? Like, and it is so easy and simple and you could even make the base ahead of time and it's kind of a custard base and then let it marinate in the fridge and then you run it through the ice cream machine, you know, the, the next day or two.
Colin (31m 55s):
And the flavors are even more accented. you know, it's like, yeah, kids can eat ice cream, but maybe you shouldn't give them Haagen Dazs or like whatever store bought crap is with all the 20 ingredients. Like just make them ice cream at home with like three ingredients.
Brian (32m 7s):
Right? Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I was just curious about your take on that with kids. Anything else, like as far as, it sounds like you, you have 'em doing the same similar routines that you're doing with the red light and things like that. Oh
Colin (32m 19s):
Yeah. Well they use a red light. We keep bright lights out as much as possible. Even the lights in the room, like for nightlight and stuff, it's all either orange or red. You can get orange bulbs, you can get orange ones that stick in the wall. I mean, at, at, at this point on Amazon, like you could paint, you could replace every light in your house with some form of orange and it will look more inviting. We actually put orange bulbs in our outside So. we, we have a, we have a three story and there's these, like from afar, all the other homes are all like bright, white, white, white, white. When ours is turned on, it's this like nice warm, inviting glow and it actually makes the house look better. and we just had to find the right orange glow bulb. It's like, that's it. You know, that's, that's something that you can change one time expense in your home. Not even actually expensive. Like maybe you spend a hundred bucks or whatever, a couple hundred dollars and immediately your sleep will get better.
Colin (33m 4s):
Now the other thing is, so I dunno if you can see this, but, so see the color of my screen right now? Oh yeah, yeah. Right. So if I, if I go 1, 2, 3, I go back to the regular. If I go 1, 2, 3, it goes to the red and there's like, even Paul had a video and do this. But you go into like your accessibility settings and you change it to like make the red go all the way up. And then this is a color filter, And. what this does is it blocks the blue light. You also are less likely to use your phone when you do this. And at night you don't have the blue light assaulting you. And then you could do the same thing on the Mac. You have night shift on 24 7. And then another app I use is Flux f Lux. And I set that to pretty orange. And I actually use both of 'em. I use night shift and that one. And that helps reduce the blue light a lot. Hmm. Even some TVs nowadays have it where you can kind of like increase the, the color of the red and that will reduce some of the blue.
Brian (33m 49s):
Love that. Yeah. I think we gotta start doing that. 'cause you know, if you don't do it, every, everything is just gonna, everything's blue light. So
Colin (33m 58s):
Everything and screens are like the, one of the worst sources of it. you know, like it, it's, yeah, the whole environment, all of everything inside that. I mean they even have it where like housing lights that the government is trying to ban them being sold in the United States. 'cause because they're calling it environmental reasons. And you can go deep into conspiracies about like, oh, well the C EI is trying to do that 'cause they're trying to assault us with blue light and change it like, like that, like Jack Crew stuff. Like whatever. Like, but it's fun to kind of look at. But I'm just like, no dude, it's not like nobody planned this 40 years ago. We're like, let's just get everybody on blue light. It was just accidental result of like iPhones and computers and like blue, like being the best for these screens or, you know, it's all just accidental stuff. But you still have to control for it whether somebody planned it or not. It doesn't change what you have to do with it.
Colin (34m 40s):
And that's kind of using my perspective on conspiracies. It's like what is it gonna do for your life to know if this was conspiracy or not. Right? You still have to do something about the thing or plan for it and then just go about your life and be happy and be free. you know, you see a lot of conspiracy lately, especially nutrition and stuff. Like, I mean, it, it's like every time I go on Instagram, it's just conspiracy. Conspiracy, big food, big food, pharma, pharma. I'm to the point where I believe that the health content needs to shift from let's stop focusing on the things we're against. Let's start focusing on the things we're for. So instead of railing against Kellogg's and Serial and whatever, and somebody's gotta do it, it's good. Absolutely. I just don't want to think about it or see it. I'm focused on positivity. I'm focused on what can I do growth, like things like sunlight, earth and go outside positive, like focus things that I can do, not railing against these things I'm against.
Colin (35m 24s):
And because what happens is you become attached to those things, right? Your identity becomes, oh, I'm not that. But still to be not that on something you're thinking about all the time. Your identity's based on it. You are connected to it. And I think more people need to just sever that connection completely.
Brian (35m 38s):
And I also too think like, you know, you obviously vote with your dollars, right? So if you could Yes. you know, support and I, and I, I understand like it is more expensive to, to get these like one-off brands, right? Like, so maybe we're only speaking to, you know, to certain demographic of people. Not everyone can go onto these, you know, these off brands and buy certain things, but
Colin (36m 2s):
Sure. But you can also go to Walmart and buy like a bulk roast,
Brian (36m 7s):
Right?
Colin (36m 8s):
And have protein for a week there, Costco, which is not necessarily like, you know, some people there don't go to Costco. But like, there are a ton of bulk options. There's a lot of ways to do it still, you know, and you also get real nutrition. You fill yourself up. Like,
Brian (36m 20s):
And I say this too, ground meat. I mean, ground meat is not that expensive. A
Colin (36m 25s):
Few bucks a pound you can get 10 pounds for, you know, and like that could feed a whole family for days, you know, is Yeah. I mean that's a tough tricky one. The, the biggest kind of the thing I'll say to that the most, that makes it hard that I will empathize with people, it's the, it's the flavor. Buying those like bulk ground beef or whatever. It gets old very fast and it's like, you gotta like put cheese on it. Ketchup. Like you gotta do something. Like I can only chew a few, a few. Like when it's ground beef, I can get through five tablespoons where I need like some other flavor to go with it. So I will like, I will give it to, to those that are like, oh, it's hard, it's expensive because all the other stuff that's cheap and highly palletized, whatever, it's literally engineered to light up your reward centers in your brain and you have to basically forego that, which you know, your brain, your brain knows and wants and you have to go to this thing that is like definitely not as dopamine rewarding, you know?
Colin (37m 13s):
Yeah. Yeah. So that's hard. That is hard. But you know, like everything worth having in life is hard. If you wanna be healthy and live a long time and have six pack abs, you gotta do some hard, something hard. Right. It's just is what it's, yeah.
Brian (37m 24s):
I mean my wife makes meatballs and those are, you know, those are great. Oh,
Colin (37m 28s):
There's a million ways to do it. Yeah. Or like, I do really thin smash burgers.
Brian (37m 31s):
Oh, nice. Right.
Colin (37m 32s):
And then throw some, like some cheese on it. Those are amazing. Yeah. you know, but like just pure brown ground beef. Sure. It is boring. Yeah. you know, like I'll give it to people there.
Brian (37m 40s):
Yeah. Yeah. That's about all I can make. Let, let's talk a little bit about, I know we talked about gut health now is all coming back to me a little bit last time, but we'll touch on that. I know you have a partnership with Inner, is that right? INNR?
Colin (37m 54s):
Yeah. So Inner is actually the parent company that now owns Wild In that I am running and we are now going for a bigger kinda inner health play. We're, we're requiring a few other brands, launching more products, maybe eventually building a testing platform, a kind of a whole health platform. It's really exciting stuff. But that's kind of a new development that's happening in the past six months.
Brian (38m 13s):
That's awesome. Yeah. And I noticed you have sort of that prebiotic probiotic drink on your website as well. Yeah. Okay. So that's coming in the future, you'll have more and more things coming out with that.
Colin (38m 23s):
We might even have a, a whole, a separate brand just focused on, on gut health. There's a brand, we're looking at a partnership. We're, we're gonna be doing probably more of a female centered brand. All, all very gut health focused. Hmm. But yeah, gut, gut health isn't going anywhere. It's, you know, it's gonna become more and more important and we just, we just have to find the right way to focus on that. Like right now we're doing the Wild man stuff and then we'll probably do something along gut health next. you know, with so many products and opportunities, you have to be, you have to kinda go one thing at a time. That's, that's what I'm learning. you know, even when you have a big team and you're growing and everything, it's like there's always so much to do. So many opportunities, you know, and I understand all these things. Like every single market you could show me, I'm like, oh, that's an amazing opportunity. But it's like you can't pursue a hundred rapids where you won't catch one, you know?
Colin (39m 6s):
Right,
Brian (39m 7s):
Right. Yeah. One thing at a time.
Colin (39m 9s):
Yep.
Brian (39m 9s):
Well, regarding gut health, what would you say? I mean, I know you talk about like cutting out these foods that aren't serving your gut, obviously, like
Colin (39m 18s):
Yeps. Yeah. And that's the first thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's the first thing. And then And grains and lectins and grains. Maybe lec, even greens for some people, just depending. Yeah.
Brian (39m 25s):
Potentially greens. Yeah. I just rebroadcast my interview with my God, I'm just drawing, like she talks about all about oxalates. Yeah.
Colin (39m 33s):
And they're a real thing that I'm with that you just, the greener it is like the kale, the spinach of the world, you know, move a little bit more to like the cabbages and the broccoli of the world and like just a little bit less from like the actual leaves of a plant. 'cause like this tree right here, I can't eat that. I get sick because there are, it's not food. 'cause there are so many poisons in it that there's not even nutrition to be had on top of it. They have to have these plant chemicals to defend themselves. And that's kind of what Paul's whole thing was early on. And he is actually right. Like it, there's a reason that like certain caterpillars are poisonous. There's a reason that certain plants are poisonous. Like this is nature just trying to defend herself and maybe you shouldn't eat certain things, you know?
Brian (40m 11s):
Yeah. I mean, if you're having, yeah, I was just gonna say, if you're having, you're showing like skin health issues and things like that, you know, perhaps it could be, could be those, you know. Yeah,
Colin (40m 21s):
Exactly. Oh,
Brian (40m 22s):
Sally Norton. Okay. you know? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah,
Colin (40m 25s):
Yeah.
Brian (40m 26s):
Anyways, so from there, what would you say on a day-to-Day basis? I mean, there's obviously, I mean, you're in the supplement industry, there's a lot out there. And I, and my wife recently had to get on a antibiotic because she had a infected toe, which we don't love to get on that stuff. And she's only on it for a week. But I was like, oh, well, you know, where do you sort of start with that as far as, you know, improving gut health and, you know, I know collagen is one. I know you have a few other fulvic acid and things like that.
Colin (40m 54s):
Yep, yep.
Brian (40m 55s):
Is there one that you maybe would point to? Yeah.
Colin (40m 57s):
Yeah, there's a list. I'll go through 'em real quick and then also make a note on antibiotics. We had to get antibiotic as a family recently 'cause we had indigo imp, EDI is basically a staph infection that's highly contagious. So it starts out on like one kid on the leg and maybe, maybe she got it from the beach, we think, and then it goes to one sun and then that son, and then I got it on my leg and then it started spreading on me. My, my daughter had it so bad that her skin was cracking all over her body and she could barely move. I mean, I feel just terrible. She was in such misery and we had a, we had a misdiagnosis by four by like three bit different people that were saying, oh no, it's just this. And then finally someone identified on what it was and we, we had, we had to go on antibiotics. I think we had to, to do two rounds. Oh wow. One for her, one for him, one because it kept coming back. It's like it'd go away a little bit and then somebody else would have it and it would flare up.
Colin (41m 39s):
I mean, I'm talk, I've never experienced anything like that in my life. Like I've lived in Florida my whole life and I've never experienced anything like that. When you have kids, you're just like, you're just like the surface area of how you can be attacked by the environment. Just like 10 X's. Yeah. you know, 'cause like they're weakened immune systems and they carry things in or whatever. And, and the goal for kids is to get sick. So, they get stronger. But as an adult, I don't really want stuff around me. 'cause like, I don't, I, I don't wanna get sick. So antibiotics sometimes are absolutely necessary. It should not be this thing that is black or white, but you should do everything you can to avoid them. And they are also the most over-prescribed drug on earth. Right? It's something like 70% of antibiotic sub prescriptions are actually not needed. I think that's what the numbers actually say. I've looked into this. Right. So that being said, if you do go on them, highly recommended that you do a very aggressive gut rebuild protocol.
Colin (42m 25s):
There's a few things that, like, this would be a longer conversation, but I recommend a couple things. Like definitely a pre probiotic, right? Prebiotic, which actually feeds a good gut bacteria. Sometimes a little bit less understood by people. You can even get that from mushrooms and like, we have a mushroom powder that escape for that. There's a lot of these prebiotic substances even, you know, sweet potatoes and some, and certain starches, even like rice, like white rice that you actually let cool in the fridge. There's a lot of these things that, that move to kinda the resistant starch realm. I think cassava in different forms, like when it's a little bit more green, has more resistant starch in it, and those types of starches generally feed the good bugs. And so you wanna have that as party routine. You want something that's feeding the good bugs. you know, you can do things like, I'm not really a fan of fiber, but there's like acacia fibers that are just purely intended to feed the good good bugs.
Colin (43m 9s):
There's certain things. Just do some research, find some things to feed the good bugs, then add a probiotic because you're just likely lacking And, you know, the probiotics in the market, the quality is all over the place. Like it, it's just one of those things where you probably have to try a few brands. You try to get the highest dose you can. Yeah. And just test it for yourself and like, just find, like, you'll probably notice something when you are taking one and you're feeling a little bit better. Then I would look into other things like butyrate's a big one. I've been trying lately ton of research around that. Tao is actually a product we just launched. We, we, we have an organic Tao that is amazing and the steric acid and the other things in it. Really good for gut health in general, but also a bunch of other things. It's great for fat burning if you have the, you know, the resistant star, the pre the pros.
Colin (43m 49s):
And then you have other things like bone broth, butter, butter has a lot of CLA and other things like that. Like I actually like doing a lemon salt bone broth butter blended up. Little, little bit of warm, little warm. I mean if you, if you're concerned about gut health, like you take two of those a day game changer. you know, what
Brian (44m 6s):
About colostrum? I noticed you have that on your co
Colin (44m 8s):
Yeah. C, c colostrum and collagen. But you could also do, you could put those all together. Do like a bone broth base, throw all that all in there, or raw milk or whatever. Raw milk's actually good too. Raw milk's good for the gut as well. It just kind of like comes down to finding the few things from a food perspective that you like and that you'll eat regularly. Like just do a little bit of research, find out what those foods or drinks are. And then the thing about gut health is like, you need to be really aggressive. You need to like do two to three cups of that bone broth drink thing or whatever a day for like seven days. And then you can kind of dial back a little bit. Usually people think, oh, I take like one cap a day, or I take like a sip. It's like that usually doesn't get the job done. Like you're trying to basically like take these invaders in here and, and like where there's all these bad bugs and all the good ones are dead and you're trying to like get 'em out.
Colin (44m 48s):
You're, you're trying to to to, it's, it's fricking it's gut warfare is what you're, is what's happening, right. So like you really need to arm the troops and you need get 'em a bunch of resources. Right. And there's also things like coffee enemas that's a little bit more for, you know, glutathione production, things like that. There's some interesting things like that. Yeah. Gut health is one of those things where it's like almost anything you do that's good for you is like in some way connected to gut health. Like take it more magnesium. That's a no brainer. If you're low in magnesium or minerals, that's the first thing you should do. So huge fan of just taking three to five magnesium caps a day and maybe even getting your minerals test to do like a hair test or something. And then drink a lot of really gut nourishing foods basically. Okay.
Brian (45m 24s):
Yeah. So yeah, step first, step one, cut out those things that could be causing the issue. Whether that's, you know, seeds, it could be seeds,
Colin (45m 32s):
Tap tap water too. Like things like that. Like avoid Yeah. Avoid low quality waters and plastic bottled waters and Yeah.
Brian (45m 38s):
Yeah. And then add in. It's like the wild west a little bit, but, but maybe, you
Colin (45m 44s):
Know, and everyone's different.
Brian (45m 46s):
Yeah. Right. Find what sort of works. Yeah. And then I think the main theme of today's podcast was get out and get some sunlight. Right.
Colin (45m 53s):
And, and do it barefoot. We didn't really talk on grounding, but I'm telling you it is a fricking game changer because if you think about it, I got shoes on right now, maybe I can show it on the camera. Like I got shoes on, right. Now, I, see 'em. And I'm standing on concrete. Since I've left my house today, I've actually not stepped on dirt once. I just realized that because we have a second story house. I go to my deck, I put my shoes on, right? I walk out of the car. I usually walk on even gravel to the car. I don't even step on grass the whole way. Then I get in my car, then I go to a Starbucks before this interview and then I go here. I have not interacted with Earth and I've not dissipated electrical energy that I need to because again, earth is like this giant battery of, it's just electrical energy and the sun, you know, that's where we get all of it. And the sun and the earth and all these things play in But. it an interesting fact that we'll probably sell people on this idea real quick.
Colin (46m 36s):
The Earth e every day or every second gets struck by lightning. Like something like 70, 80 times. So if you were to zoom out and watch the electrical field around earth and how it interacts, it's just all day long. It's just power going in and out. Right? We are organisms that have lived our entire lives on this rock, right? We've lived these entire lives under the sun. The sun and earth, and all the energy exchange between the two. And us being connected to that. You better believe that our biology did something to optimize for those things. Maybe it had to build a body to protect itself. Maybe it used those things like it uses sunlight, just like a plant uses sunlight to produce food through photosynthesis. And this is all where we get like, it's like the ancestral mindset to the umph degree.
Colin (47m 17s):
It's like, let's go all the way down to like the electrical level, like the, the origin of life and where we came from. And then you realize how all these things interoperate and then you realize how the modern environment has removed them. Right? Something just of just being on concrete. Yeah. On a non-conductive surface or with rubber shoes for your entire day. And then going to sleep, usually in a raised bed sometimes with metal. No way to dissipate energy. Even metal attracts can attract and store energy. you know, it's crazy and, and nobody really talks about or understands these things, but the people that are most thriving are people that aren't even aware of these things. They just go outside. They go garden, they go walk, they go to the beach, they do these things and their energy outcomes are like this And. you know, people don't really look at them and be like, well this is the reason why It's like earthing, it's sunlight.
Colin (48m 0s):
It's like the spectrum. It's red light, it's infrared, but these are all connected. And so if you ignored everything we just talked about and you simply went outside for a couple hours a day barefoot, everything in your life will get better. Yeah. you know, and then, and then you do the other things to add on top of that, that's your foundation.
Brian (48m 13s):
And it like, seems too simple, right? Like it's right in front of you But. it
Colin (48m 16s):
Is. It's free too. Yeah. It's, it's free. Free. But what's, but we don't do it. Right. That's the thing. We don't do it because we get into our, we get into our modern routines and it's somebody that literally knows this stuff, studies this stuff, has tested this stuff. I even sometimes forget to just like go do my morning stretches in the grass. Yeah. It doesn't cost anything. It's just like one little mental heuristic that I have to remember and do you know and follow.
Brian (48m 39s):
Yeah. And that, yeah. That's an issue with people in the city, you know, live in the city. It's like, I mean,
Colin (48m 43s):
Oh dude, huge issue. 'cause like you might not even you what you gotta do, walk point this to a park. Right. you know, you might not even have grass around you.
Brian (48m 49s):
Right. Yeah. When I got dogs, I was like, okay, I'm out of the city. It's like, yeah, yeah. None of this. I'm not walking down the, you know, the side, you know? Yeah. you know. Anyways. Well, Colin, this is great. Good to see you again. Yeah, man, I,
Colin (49m 1s):
I am gonna have to change shirts your
Brian (49m 3s):
Schitz in a
Colin (49m 3s):
Bit. I, I, I was committed. I was committed because I'm all sweaty because the AC in here, we got flooded. I don't know if they, if we're recording, but we got flooded in the studio and our ACS broke. But I didn't wanna, I don't wanna reschedule the pod a second time, so I just committed to it. I, I, I think I have an extra shirt in the car, so hopefully I'll be okay the rest of the day.
Brian (49m 20s):
Well yeah. Thanks for making this work and best place people to find you.
Colin (49m 25s):
Yeah. Wild foods.co is the website and then you can check out I'm on Instagram, Colin Stuckert. I think I'm on X too. I'll put my social game lately. Yeah. Any Links you can find. Yeah, I'm gonna start redoing my stuff, but we're doing a lot more content for Wilds to check out Wild Foods Co on Instagram and all the places. We have a whole team here in the studio. We're actually relaunching the Wild podcast. We're gonna be doing kind of a Wild Man series, A Wild Woman series. Oh, cool. I'm really excited about it. Like our team, and I don't, we haven't really talked about it, but a team in the past six months, I mean, even the past two months we went from probably like four people to 30. Oh. And we're still hiring and recruiting And, you know, we bought a, we bought a another brand Daily Nutri, which is now part of the family. We're about to close on another brand that is gonna be more gut health female center, which I actually would love to get Dasha on actually.
Colin (50m 7s):
Oh wow. I gotta start making these connections. I didn't even think about that. She'd be a great guest. Maybe her and I could even do a, a pod together sometime. you know that. That'll be exciting. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to keep doing it until I, I want to beat Brad with the, the most, the most. Yeah. I wanna, I wanna win the award.
Brian (50m 24s):
I, I'll take a look. Yeah. I think you're one behind him, so we'll, we'll get you back on. You got a lot of good stuff happening. All, right, Colin? Well, I'll put Links in the show notes for people to find you and stay safe there in Tampa and we'll, we'll be in touch. Yep. Thank you. Thanks for listening to the Get, Lean Eat Clean Podcast. I understand there are millions of other podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine and I appreciate that. Check out the show notes@briangrin.com for everything that was mentioned in this episode. Feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member that's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again, and have a great day.
