0 (1s): Coming up on the get lean, eat clean podcast 1 (4s): To focus on fat loss. We don't really talk about restricting calories or tracking all of these different macros, just simply prioritizing protein, decreasing, added carbs, and fats. It is almost an evolution of the keto style of eating. A lot of us came from a low carb, high fat style of eating it just prioritizes protein a bit more than that style of wood and reduces added fats a bit. So rather than adding, you know, a bunch of macadamia nuts, or a bunch of grass fed butter to your food or avocados, we would say, you know, eat more pasture-raised eggs, eat more grass fed beef, eat more wild caught salmon. 1 (45s): So really focusing on the protein mineral side of things. And then the third aspect would be just a simple, simple high intensity bodyweight training program that takes 15 minutes a day, one set to failure on a pushing movement, a pulling movement and a leg movement. 0 (1m 3s): Hello, and welcome to the get lean eat clean podcast. I'm Brian grin, and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was five, 10, even 15 years ago each week. I'll give you an in-depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long-term sustainable results. Well, this week I'm going to do a rebroadcast of an interview. I did with power ranger, actor singer William Shufeldt, which was done December, 2020. And I wanted to do a rebroadcast mainly because it's good to hear things a few times. And I've so many great interviews for the past like year and a half. 0 (1m 43s): Now that I thought it would be beneficial to find one that has a ton of great information. And this one pretty much hit on a lot of the main principles that we touch on. We've touched on over the last year and a half. So I thought, why not just bring an interview back out? That's been buried down below because there's so much worthwhile information. I mean, I made a list of all the things we talked about, but setting goals, focusing on a good morning ritual, having the right mindset for health and wellness. And he mentioned some of his favorite books along with the PE diet, which he helped formulate with Dr. 0 (2m 24s): Ted Naiman. And I thought that would be a great diet to talk about as well. Also, we got into fasting, we talked a little bit about carnivore and the correct amount of protein for individuals. We also touched on the importance of resistance training. And lastly, if you listen to the end, which I recommend is tips to get your body back to what, what it once was, are just, just great. He gave more than one. He gave a bunch of them. So I thought this would be a very relevant interview to rebroadcast because it really hit on all the principles that we've touched on over the last year and a half, pretty much all of them. 0 (3m 5s): And why not? Let's listen to that again. So here's my interview with William Shufeldt the actor and singer himself, and one of the formulators of the PE diet book. So, yeah. Thanks. I hope you enjoy and thanks again. All right, well, welcome to the get lean eat clean podcast. My guest today is William Shufeldt and he's out of orange county, California, and I'm excited to have him on, he's done a lot. I could spend probably 15 minutes talking about everything he's done, but I'll just say he's an actor, a rapper and author. 0 (3m 45s): He's got a song I just listened to and he's got a challenge out there. So we have a lot of great things that we're going to talk about today. And yeah. Welcome to the show. 1 (3m 54s): Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it. We were linked up through my good friend, Brad Kearns. So anybody that, you know, Brad wants me to talk to, I will talk to because Brad's an awesome dude. 0 (4m 6s): Well, yeah. And, and listening to all the things that you have out there, whether, you know, I know you did it, you had a podcast going for a little while. I felt like we have a lot in common just to in just the way we think, and we live our lives. So I'm excited to have you on. And I guess we could start with sort of, you know, your background. I know you, you start out with acting and then sort of grew from there. 1 (4m 30s): Yeah. Let's see. Background. Do we want to take it back to just being a wee young lad in Modesto? Or maybe I guess let's, let's maybe save people the details and let's just go to, I, I studied economics in college. I went to UC San Diego for that. And you know, I, I did three years of that. I did a lot of different internships while I was there. I was president of our economic society and I got heavily involved, but I became super aware of the fact that I didn't like the direction my life was headed in. I could see, you know, I would be able to join, you know, some, some great company and kind of work my way through the ranks and join corporate America. 1 (5m 13s): Or I could even go like the more academic route with that and try to become a professor or go for a master's degree or a PhD in economics. And I just kind of looked at a lot of those different options. I was also doing like model UN and mock trial and some of those things. So looking at what it would be like if I pursued a legal career or something in public service. And I didn't like none of it, I had a good time. Like, I, I always really pushed myself on all the things, but there just came a point where I was like, okay, I have one year of college left. I'm still young enough that I could do anything that I want to, at this point I could kind of change direction. And I really did some soul searching before that last year of college. 1 (5m 57s): And I did a lot of goal-setting. I was reading heavily, you know, a lot of the personal development books and realized that acting was something that I had been passionate about since I was a kid had just always written off because it just didn't seem likely, it didn't seem like a realistic possibility, which I think a lot of us do that a lot of us have, you know, in the ideal world, we would do X, Y, and Z, but we won't do that because we're too, you know, born in the wrong place or we're too short or too tall were the wrong ethnicity, blah, blah, blah. So I just sort of wrote it off. And once I, once I started to learn how goal setting works, and once I saw how effective it was in my life, I started to realize like, man, you can really kind of point and choose what it is you want to do and work backwards and create systems and routines to help get you there. 1 (6m 50s): So I set this goal for myself. I've told this story before, but, but I set a goal for myself that in one year I wanted to book the starring role on a major TV show. And I really worked backwards from there. And by the end of the year, I had gotten an agent and I had done a independent film and some music videos and commercials. And finally I booked the, the leading role on the power Rangers TV show. And that's when I went off to New Zealand for the next year. And we filmed 45 episodes of that two seasons of that. And it really just changed my life. And I also had a health journey that was sort of parallel to all of that, but I'll cut it off there cause we're, I'm already running a bit long. 0 (7m 36s): No, that's good. I know that was a very general question. You could probably go on anywhere. I mean, you know, we talk about goal setting, goal setting. I think it's something that even myself have, have talked about and I've done it in the past. How do you, do you set goals every month? You know, how do you do it and how far out do you do it? 1 (7m 60s): Yeah. So that's, that's a big scope in terms of pocket answer that there, I have sort of a mission, like a mission for my life and, and there's, there's a certain trajectory and progression and evolution that I want to see in my life in a few different fields. So that kind of maps out the course of what I want to achieve over the span of my life. And along with that, you know, I have goals that I want to achieve in the next five years. Some things that I really want to focus on, right. And then I also usually take some time out at the beginning of each year to focus on, you know, about three to five achievable targets in professional areas also personally. 1 (8m 45s): So that kind of moves me in a certain direction for that year. And then I really focus on like, what's really actionable for me is setting these quarterly goals, usually like a hundred day challenges that I'll do for myself. And those kinds of determined, like, what am I sprinting towards at the moment I have like monthly challenges that I set for myself that are gonna move me to those quarterly goals. And then each week I'm kind of revisiting all of that and mapping out my projects and how I'm gonna manage my, my music and my acting projects, my social media, my 21 day carnivores shred challenge, you know, the, the PE diet book, which we're still marketing and getting out there. 1 (9m 32s): So yeah, I'll take time at the beginning of each week to just sort of review where is everything at, you know, what needs to get done this week? And then also like, how did I do with that monthly challenge the past week? You know? So 0 (9m 46s): Yeah, no, I mean, I think the toughest thing is, you know, being an entrepreneur like yourself and myself, sometimes as you have so many things that you want to get done and it's like, you get pulled in all these different directions. And, and I, and I actually have this tab on my computer. It says one thing at a time, because at least for me, if, if I, I get pulled every direction, then nothing really gets done for me. I like to focus on one thing, get it done and then move on to the next. How do you feel about that? 1 (10m 19s): I, I completely agree with that. One of the most important things for me is having a daily checklist that I go through and that checklist. So there's like a morning component to it and then there's like a work component to it. So in the morning there is like a morning routine that 0 (10m 37s): Let's talk about that. Cause that was actually a quite, I'm a big fan of morning ritual. So what, what is your morning routine? 1 (10m 43s): It's long, man, for me, you know, since we're able to set our own schedules in a sense, I really take the entire morning. I mean from 5:00 AM to about 10 or 11 and I'm building on all of the routine things I need to do. They're kind of mundane, but it's, it's just funny how your cup got cut off in the background, but so it starts 5:00 AM. First thing I'm doing is some stuff from my mind. So it's, it's stuff like affirmations it's I like to write out my quarterly goals, like 15 times each in, in kind of like an affirmation sense, really to drill it into my head. 1 (11m 25s): And then after that I'll make this electrolyte drink. I will head off to the gym. I'll go work out usually for about 45 minutes lifting and then I'll head back home, take a shower. I will meditate a bit, I will read for 10 minutes. I'll also do a little bit of gratitude. And by then it's about nine o'clock I believe. And that's when I'll start working on vocal, warmups and vocal training for the music stuff. So that takes about an hour. And after that, then I'll usually have a little bit of like an early lunch. And then after that I'll work for about two hours on creating new music. 1 (12m 8s): And then it's about probably 1:00 PM. And that's when I kind of go into the rest of my work for the day. Anything administrative or, or anything like that. 0 (12m 19s): Yeah. I mean, that's great that you have it laid out like that. I mean, I think it's so important. At least I have found that my mornings are so valuable. If, if you don't have a plan in the morning, at least for me, like once the afternoon comes, like you said, like for me, I try to be my most productive self in the morning. And then once it gets in the afternoon, then maybe it's more, like you said, like more administrative, more administrative things, maybe things that don't use as much brain power, then at least for me, I know you do some creative stuff in the afternoon too. And yeah. Speaking of your song, I listened to that. 0 (12m 60s): The one that was just on YouTube and I wrote down the name, oh, is that a Spanish? Is it a w 1 (13m 7s): Yeah. I've, I've got, I've got about three. I have three Spanish songs out. Currently. One of them is . The other is disproved that the other is one at Cosa. So that's, that's kind of the genre of music that I've been working a lot in recently, reggaeton Latin trap stuff. Like, 0 (13m 27s): Yeah, you said, you see, I'm glad you said it. And I didn't say, cause it would've sounded as good as that, but the animal Morado one. I really liked it, you know? And I'm not saying that I did, I really liked it. Like, I'm like, oh, listen to this. And you know, sometimes you put on a song and you're like, nah, you can turn it off. After 1 (13m 47s): I put myself through this, 0 (13m 50s): I'm like, you know, I'm going to keep listening to this. This is good. I like it. So anyways, that's awesome. Speaking of music and different hobbies and things, I've actually been getting into piano. So I've been learning piano over the last probably like five, six years. And I know you're big into like personal growth and things like that. So that was something I wanted to do was learn an instrument. And I L I learned how to play piano when I was young, but then I sort of, I've taken learning something as an adult is a completely different thing than learning something, you know, when you're forced into it, when you're like 12 years old. 1 (14m 23s): Yeah. That brain plasticity, isn't quite the same. It's a bit more rigidity. 0 (14m 30s): Yeah. But you know what? You appreciate it more, you sort of see how you've progressed more when you're older, you know, you're just not, self-aware when you're younger, you don't realize you just sort of do it because you're just doing it. So I've really enjoyed that process. And I mean, you know, I talk a lot about health and you know, we'll talk about fasting and things like that. But I also talk about mind work. And, and I think that if, if you don't have that your mind, right? A lot of the other things won't fall into place. 1 (14m 56s): It's, it's hugely important. And I, man, I think that that can be a make or break component. Sometimes you really do have to train your mindset and you have to train the beliefs that you have. You have to train yourself, talk. All of these things are, you know, you can either accept what you were born with and go with that throughout life. Or you can actively seek to create a more growth oriented mindset, a more positive mindset, more, you know, success oriented mindset. So all of these things, I was viewed as like, everything can be improved, everything can be changed, everything can be built and grown. You ultimately have to figure out what are the most important things for you to be building and growing because you can't necessarily do everything. 1 (15m 42s): Some stuff you can relegate to habits and routines. So you don't have to think about it. Some, some things will take a lot of active focus and then some things you just kind of have to push to the future when you get to it. 0 (15m 54s): Yeah. Is there something, is there a book or a journal that you use or that has helped you sort of sculpt like your affirmations and your, and your goal setting? Or do you just do that on your own? 1 (16m 6s): Yeah, I, I've got a couple of journals. I mean, this, I just, I use this just for work. It doesn't show up in my beach background there and I I've got another journal that I use just to, just for writing, just for journaling, just for like affirmation, stuff like that. I've got one that I use more for like checklists and daily routines and habits. I don't necessarily use like a formatted journal per se. I've done that in the past. I did the self journal for a while. I did John Lee Dumas had a good journal too. I used that for a little while, but yeah, I kind of prefer like a more free thing where I can set it up and whatever structure I want. 0 (16m 51s): Yeah. I hear you. I, I have a journal. I don't use it enough, but like for me, my morning routine has become, it's amazing though. What I also found is if you get up an hour earlier, how much of a difference that can make in that morning routine? I mean, like for example, like six o'clock is typical for me. And if there's a day where it's like dark and gloomy in Chicago, and for some reason I sleep longer, you just like, honestly that half hour to hour, like say I'm up at six 30 or seven. It it's amazing how that can just sort of screw up the rest of the day. 1 (17m 30s): Yeah, I totally get that. It's it's really like, starting off your mind feeling that you have a little bit of a headstart. I'm usually up at five and considering the amount of things that I have to train each day, just to move forward on like teaching myself to sing from scratch to song, write from scratch, all of those things. It takes a while. And when this time change happened and I didn't even realize it was four o'clock when I woke up because my alarm didn't change. I, it was like, I S I started sticking at 4:00 AM for about a week. And it was like, incredible. I was like, wow, this is amazing. I have so much time, you know, but, but then you have to go to bed at eight or 9:00 PM. 1 (18m 13s): So 0 (18m 14s): Yeah, that's, I find that balance, right. Cause you want to sort of stay consistent with when you go to sleep when you wake up, but you also got to value how much time you need to sleep. Cause obviously I talk about like these principles, I mean, sleep is like number one on the list when it comes to principles for health and speaking of health, why don't we get into a little bit, the PE diet. I know you have that book with Dr. Ted Naiman, if I said that. Right. And that's mainly like protein energy. I know you're, you're a big proponent of protein, obviously backing up the carnival or movement a little bit, right? Yeah. What's the basis behind that book. 1 (18m 55s): Yeah. So the, the PE diet book PE stands for protein to energy ratio and the book really focuses on what are the most simple and effective practices that the everyday person could put into predator could put into, could put, to use that will have the biggest impact on their body composition, on their, you know, all of their biomarkers on longevity, things like that. So Dr. Ted Naiman really became well known for these awesome, awesome infographics and memes that he would post on Twitter that would take usually pretty complex topics that people could write pages on. 1 (19m 35s): And he would condense it into one picture or one graphic. And there would just be a blunt statement right at the top of it that it's, it's almost like the answer key, you know, so instead of having to go through all of this information and hypothesizing, he would just tell you right here, eat this to lose fat as fast as possible or something like that. And it would be so simple and it would make sense. And he would, he would be able to explain it and back it up. And he had so many of these graphics that I always thought, man, I would love if he wrote a book like that would be my go-to book. I would just read that in terms of, you know, training and nutrition and all of that. Right? So the book wasn't coming. 1 (20m 17s): So I, at some point I reached out and I kind of pitched the idea of collaborating on a book and getting that out there. So the PE diet, ultimately there's three really simple phases to it. One of them is incorporating a fasting window into your day. We just really simply advocate a 16, eight style of eating or just doing about two meals a day, skipping breakfast, keeping it very, very simple. The second is to focus on fat loss. We don't really talk about restricting calories or tracking all of these different macros, just simply prioritizing protein, decreasing, added carbs, and fats. 1 (20m 59s): It is almost an evolution of the keto style of eating. A lot of us came from a low carb, high fat style of eating it just prioritizes protein a bit more than that style of wood and reduces added fats a bit. So rather than adding, you know, a bunch of macadamia nuts or a bunch of grass fed butter to your food or avocados, we would say, you know, eat more pasture-raised eggs, eat more grass fed beef, eat more wild caught salmon. So really focusing on the protein mineral side of things. And then the third aspect would be just a simple, simple high intensity body training program that takes 15 minutes a day, one set to failure on a pushing movement, a pulling movement and a leg movement. 1 (21m 44s): And with 15 minutes a day, the idea really is to just take everyone's excuses away. Right? This is a program that Dr. Ted Naiman has used daily for years now, and he's ripped and it only takes 15 minutes takes barely any equipment. So that's, that's kind of the training side of things, but yeah, just three simple practices. And the goal is to just make it accessible for people. You know, it doesn't, it doesn't have to take, you know, this complex situation and hiring personal trainers and tracking all of these different foods, just keeping things simple and effective kind of focusing on that 80, 20 principle. 0 (22m 23s): Yeah. I like that. I mean, I always talk about when you confuse people, they don't take action. And so, you know, keeping things simple. And I like the idea behind that actually came out with, I got into intermittent fasting actually from a client of mine. Cause I do some training in health coaching and she had, she was pre-diabetic she had some issues, she got it, a fast thing had unbelievable results. I'm like, you know, I gotta look into this. Like, I don't know that much about it, even though it is sort of simple when you break it down. And yeah, I got into that and I was like, wow, I had great results. And I was like, you know, I want to come out with a journal. And I came up with this simple intermittent fasting journal, just like you said, like, keep it simple. 0 (23m 5s): And you know, you promote more or less like the 16, eight, which is, you know, which is the one that probably the more, most popular way of, of doing intermittent fasting. And that's what I sort of did in that journal is I had them actually pushed back breakfast gradually, not just jump right into it because some people, it can be very difficult to get into, you know, the whole fasting window. Is that typically what you do for you 16, eight 1 (23m 31s): These days? Honestly, I don't really track what the window would be. I'm really just pushing my first meal until about 10, 10:00 AM. And then second meal would probably be at the end of the Workday. So that would about like 7:00 PM. So no, not 16, eight, but I'm, I'm really not trying to get any leaner at this point. Like I, I'm not, I don't really want to be any leaner. I'm, I'm really happy with where my physics at the, the main focus is really just building strength over time. 0 (24m 3s): Right. And again, yeah, that's a good point because it just, it depends on your goals, right? Like, yeah. You know, you're 25 years old and you're in great shape and you don't really need to have these big fasting windows you're in more of a growth mode. So I totally get that. And I've, I think the key for anyone is just eliminate a lot of the snacking. And even if you're having three meals a day, have a good satiating meal, like, you know, grass fed meats and the wild salmon and the egg rolls and things like that. And then, you know, just go from meal to meal, if it's four or five hours, that's great. And if you're not happy where you're at and you, and you want to sort of lean out more than obviously adjust your fasting window. 1 (24m 49s): Yeah. And I think one of the beautiful things about it is that you can actually eat to satiety when you're eating the right foods. That's one of the things that we really promote with people, the concept of you don't have to artificially restrict yourself at a certain point. You can actually start to trust your own satiety signals over time when you're feeding yourselves, when you're feeding yourself, these very nutrient dense, high protein to energy ratio, foods, full of minerals, you know, full of B vitamins and fat-soluble nutrients. So that's what we're really trying to promote when you, when you give yourself foods like that, like one of the graphics in the book is I think it's like 400 calories of salmon and 400 calories of a donut. 1 (25m 31s): And it says, eat, you know, if you eat one of these, which one is going to make you hungry in two hours. So it's, it's that sort of concept, not all calories are equal and we're really trying to prioritize the best ones. Okay. 0 (25m 45s): I completely agree. And why don't we talk a little bit about the challenge because I have a challenge. I have a 21 day intermittent fasting challenge and you have a 21 day I was looking at it. It's pretty cool. I might have to give that a go 21 day carnivores shred.com. How did you get into carnivore? I know you've had sort of an evolution of the way you've gone from plant-based all the way to that, is that right? 1 (26m 9s): Yeah. I, I did a plant-based whole food plant-based diet three years in college and I, it, it checked a few boxes off for me, but it started to raise a lot of huge issues in terms of energy, in terms of digestion and mental focus as well. So I transitioned into a keto diet. It was about 2017. When I got into keto, I did strict keto for six months. No, refeeds nothing like that. And I did a keto diet. I continued that for about year. I was really happy with the way I felt digestion was great. Energy was great. Mental focus was great. 1 (26m 50s): Body composition was the only thing that I just could not nail down. And I was, I was doing a lot of fasting. I was trying different styles of training, but I, it seemed like I was actually holding onto more body fat than I ever had. And that was pretty much when, when, you know, enter Dr. Ted Nayman's work, which kind of coincided for me with the growth of carnivore movement. And this was kind of right at the cusp of the carnivore diets starting out and in 2018, starting to come to prominence. So I really combine those two approaches. I just cut out any extra plant foods. And I focus my diet around beef, eggs, seafood, a little bit of, you know, Greek yogurt or cottage cheese. 1 (27m 37s): And I just focus my diet on those foods. I incorporated some fasting and I would keep the protein up there. The fat was moderate carbs were low when I did that style of dieting. It was like every box was finally checked off and I wasn't really seeking anything else. I was, I was laying, I was strong. Mental focus was great. Digestion was great. And I was just pretty happy with things. My, you know, 10 year long diet journey that started when I was 13, kind of came to a close and that's still essentially the style of dieting, but I follow to this day, that's the foundation of it. If I'm really, really focused on a, on like bulking, I'll bring in, you know, certain carbs I'll bring in things like potatoes and sweet potatoes, but I always kind of make sure that I've got my two pounds of red meat and my six eggs and maybe a bit of seafood or a bit of dairy that day. 1 (28m 30s): And then if I want to cut down, I'll just cut out those carbs. So that's, that's really kind of where my diet got to and I thought I would never stop searching for the perfect diet, but there is an answer for all of us. I do think that each of us has that specific answer for our goals. And I'm glad that I found mine. 0 (28m 51s): Yeah. I mean, I think everyone has done that journey. Well, not everyone, but a lot of people are on that journey to find like what's optimal for them. I was sort of the same way in a sense, I was fairly more plant-based pescatarian. Like I used to have these big salads and I used to try to find at least decent veggie burgers from time to time I used to find, find, I probably tried like every brand that's out there. Yeah. Right. I'm sure in California, there's probably even more than there are in Chicago, but, you know, yeah. I was sort of the same way I actually got more into, I would say keto slash carnivore ish, the beginning of the year, probably right around the quarantine. 0 (29m 32s): And I started going more into meat and it was amazing just energy. My workouts were better. My body looked better. It was like, I was just lacking that protein. And, and I'm sure, obviously, you know, we, you know, as you talked already, how, how important that is for just growth in general. And then when you, when you want quality protein, there's no way getting around really an animal based, you know, if you could do like a grass fed grass finished. And I found a few companies, you know, that I'm sure are, we're killing it during the quarantine. Cause people are ordering a lot of food and I, yeah, I got a bunch of different grass fed grass, finished meats and blends. You know, you talk about Oregon meats as well. 0 (30m 17s): Do you incorporate organ meats into your routine? 1 (30m 21s): Not these days I'll I'll do I have a bunch of optimal carnivores and ancestral supplements in my cabinet and I'll do that pretty much every day. I kind of mix and match. I, I, I was taking mofo for awhile until I ran out of it. It's a fantastic product. When I checked the ingredients, I was a little shocked. There, there are bull testicles as a part of this product, which there are ancestral reasons for that. But yeah, I was, I was taking that one for a while as well. So I'll usually take those every day. I used to do liver pretty often. 1 (31m 1s): I just can't really get myself to do it anymore. And in terms of priority priorities, it's not number one on the list, right? 0 (31m 11s): Yeah. I I've gotten most of my organ meats through blends. You know, a lot of these companies were making blends and, and that I find that's a good way to do it and mix it up with that and just, you know, steaks and things like that and do the fish, you know, wild salmon and things like that. So, yeah. So I've gone on a similar journey as you, as far as getting to more of a meat-based diet and as long as they can find a company that does it right. And sustainable and treats the animals humane, I'm all for that. You know? So what I also noticed you're into different martial arts, or you were in a martial arts. 0 (31m 52s): I noticed one thing that stood out was arm wrestling, arm wrestling. Yeah. 1 (31m 58s): I was heavily, heavily obsessed with arm wrestling from when I was 13 to 18. Yeah. People don't know that this is a competitive sport in their tournaments and there are all kinds of, you know, weight divisions and you have local tournaments and, and state tournaments and national championships. There are international championships. So yes, there are world champions of arm wrestling. There are a 0 (32m 25s): Few arms they're on TV sometimes I remember. Yeah. 1 (32m 29s): Yeah. They actually had it on ESPN for a little while. The world arm wrestling league, there are certain arm wrestlers that are, that have kind of dominated sport for decades. Probably the most well-known one is John Burbank, who from 19, I think 85 up until about up until about 2010, he dominated the sport of arm. Wrestling was very rarely be traveled. The world. The guy was only about 210 pounds and just dominated the sport. So it's really, really fun. It's, it's very addicting. I, I feel the same way about it that I think a lot of people feel about jujitsu. They always say like, once you start and you get with a good team of guys and you're training it, it's just addictive. 1 (33m 12s): And yeah, I was definitely addicted to it right around when I started to get serious about my career. That's when I said, okay, you've, you've spent enough mental energy on this sport. Let's stop doing that. 0 (33m 24s): Hey, well, there could be worse addictions. Right? That's true. I've, you know, speaking of martial arts, like Moya, Ty's something that's been a passion of mine. I've done it on and off for a while now. And I just like it. I don't know. I'm not a big, I don't know how I'm not a big cardio guy and that was like my one way to get out there and just like do something like that would really kick my butt and I'd be sweating like crazy. And you know, so, and then also, obviously when you talk about resistance training, have you been working out from home or are you going to the studio or what have you been doing, you know, with the whole quarantine or, you know? 1 (34m 5s): Yeah. So at the beginning of it, I was doing a lot of calisthenics at the park, which was great in terms of getting sunshine and also fresh air. And I was doing a lot of pull-ups and sprints and jump squats and muscle ups and pushups and dips and things like that, which are good. And you get conditioned, but they're not really going to pack any serious size on you. I had a weight vest as well that I was working with, went up to 40 pounds. So I was still getting good workouts in halfway through the year, gyms opened back up. There's a lot of different kind of safety procedures that you gotta do when you go in there. But yeah, so gyms gyms are open again. So I do go to the gym every day now and thank God I, I I've been going to the gym since I was about 13. 1 (34m 52s): And, and to me at this point, it's just a place that I love. Like, there's, there's few feelings as fun as getting to the gym at six in the morning and you got your music plan and you just go intense, you know, it's, it's, it's great. I love it. I love it 0 (35m 9s): Now. And I'm the same way I've been, well, I've been lifting since I was a junior in high school. So it's been been, you know, over 20 years. What I recently found over the last let's just say six months is I've been getting more into like resistant bands. I was having some joint issues with my elbow, even with my knee. And not that I'm gonna, you know, want to, but to promote like the X three I was using that I've been using that and incorporating that. And that's really like, it was, it was fun to just mix it up and do something different. I don't know if you've tried any resistance band things, but I know you're, you know, you're only 25 when you get a little bit older, it's like, you want to get a hard workout in, but you don't, you don't want it to cash out your joints and be sore for the next. 0 (35m 56s): Yeah. So you'll, you'll get there. 1 (35m 58s): I've, I've definitely tried a lot of different styles of lifting over the years. I've I've had periods of time where it was bodybuilding focused hypertrophy. I've done power lifting. I competed in power lifting for a little bit. I did a lot of Olympic lifting for a while, the heavy compound lips. And then I've also done periods where it was like six months of just straight calisthenics. So I've, I've tried a lot of different things. Honestly. I feel physically, I feel the best when I just do calisthenics because it's, it's so little pressure on your joints. You feel fantastic, but you know, aesthetically, it's not nearly as appealing in my kitchen. 1 (36m 40s): So I always kind of go back to the weights and I do enjoy the weights a lot. And I'm, I'm all for switching it up. Like, what I'm doing currently is I'm not programming anything for myself. So I have this app called fit bod and the Fitbit app. So you can just customize it to what your goals are, which exercises you can exclude certain exercises you can set how long you want to be working out for. And it's, it's got some AI technology in there where it'll basically just give you that progressive overload each workout. So it'll take you up, you know, a few extra reps or a few extra pounds, which I really liked. 1 (37m 20s): I like having another brain thinking about my workouts and I can just show up, turn the app on. It'll tell me what I'm doing for the day. I'm having a lot of fun with that. The cool thing about it is that it'll get you to do a lot of exercises that you otherwise wouldn't really do. You know, a lot of times when we program our selves, we'll kind of focus on the same things. A lot. This thing has me doing, you know, a lot of different exercises that I generally wouldn't do, which is providing so much different stimulus to the body that I like it. I really enjoy it. 0 (37m 51s): That's cool. Yeah. I've heard you talk about that in the past. Yeah. It is amazing with all these apps. It's like meditation, you know, sleep, anything you need around, you know, goal setting. It's like really unbelievable that there's really no reason to not, you know, take advantage of those things and use them to your advantage. Why don't we talk a little bit about, you've talked about your eating routine. What about like, if you were going to cheat, if you're going to have a tree. Yeah. Is there something that you would like, 1 (38m 25s): Yeah, no, there's a routine for that. It's usually every, every Sunday I'll 0 (38m 31s): Have my cheat day. 1 (38m 33s): Can you believe that? Yeah. No, that's, that's a topic that gets talked about in a lot of different ways in our community. You know, whether it's paleo, ancestral, KIDO, carnivore, I personally am all for it. I think that if your body can handle it, then go for it. And I think it can be a lot of fun. It's a nice mental break. It's a nice physical break. Generally. The inflammation you incur from that one day of eating, right. It ain't that bad, especially if you're fasting the next day and your body's kind of a finely tuned machine. So I'm all for it. And usually what I like to do is each Sunday, I'll kind of take that one day after, after 12:00 PM not going to do any work. 1 (39m 14s): And I'll pretty much just enjoy my day. What I like to do is try ethnic cuisines. So I'll go to, I had Ethiopian food recently. I'll go to maybe a, like a Japanese spot or I'll go to an Indian food spot and just try stuff like that. And I, there's no rules on cheat day. Like I'm not trying to, you know, oh, well I'll have a little bit more sweet potatoes than usual. No, I mean, I'm, I'm if I want to have Ben and Jerry's I'll have it. So yeah. I just kind of let loose on that day and then next day I'm back on it. 0 (39m 47s): Right. And that's the most important thing is like, there's nothing wrong with doing a cheat day, as long as you just get back on your schedule. Okay. 1 (39m 55s): And I know Brad loves to call these celebratory days. And I, I always like to, I always joke when people do that and they'll say, no, it's not a cheat. It has a negative connotation to it. It's celebratory. Or if it's a re feed. And I always say like, it's a cheat day, you know, let's, let's not, let's not make it sound like a good thing. Like, you know, otherwise you might end up having too many of these, 0 (40m 18s): Right. Yeah. Call it what you want. But you know, there's nothing wrong with doing that. I think it's sort of a reward that I got into. Cause I'm, you know, I've been fasting is I'll do like longer, fast, and then, you know, it's, it's nice to sort of reward yourself with that meal and just break the fast with a good meal. Yeah. I think that's like for me that, you know, when you, when you eat one or two meals a day like yourself, like you really want to eat good meals and satiating meals. And then, you know, if you have a cheat day, every once in a while, there's nothing wrong with that. What about, can you talk about mindset? I know I'm going all over the place here, but favorite book? 0 (40m 58s): Favorite? Yeah. Yeah. Like I know you're big into books, 10 minutes a day. I'm a big fan. I actually just picked up a whim Hoff's book. And speaking of that, do you do cold exposure or any hormetic stresses? 1 (41m 12s): Yeah. My life is one big hormetic stressor. No. Yeah. I definitely like to do that. So every morning, well, I'm not going to say every morning, but most mornings I like to do a cold shower. If I'm like super sleep deprived and stressed out to begin with, I'm not going to do it because I'm not trying to just, you know, stress myself out like crazy. But most of the time I'm doing a cold shower. There's two things I love about it. One is how much it energizes you, how amazing you feel after a cold shower. And then the second one is what it does for your mood. You know, there's a lot of great information out there about how, you know, I think it's a flood of dopamine that you get after that, but, and people have experienced like temporary. 1 (41m 57s): How would you say this? It's not a cure for depression, but it's like a temporary way to upregulate. Some of those feel hormones. So it's kind of a way to help people get that dark cloud out from them, you know, for maybe an hour or two. So I really like it. Cause I feel like it's a great way to start your morning off in a positive way. Right. And then jumping back to the reading. Yeah. There's so many books that I enjoy reading. What I tend to do is I tend to read a lot of the books that I love over and over and over again. Cause I'm really trying to ingrain them into my mind. And there's a few of those, like the compound effect, the miracle morning, let's say the seven habits of highly effective people think and grow rich is one that I like to read often the science of getting rich as it's a fantastic book. 1 (42m 48s): The richest man in Babylon is one. I feel like every quarter I'll read Arnold Schwarzenegger's biography over again because it just gets me pumped up. Yeah. So there's, there's a few that I like to read. I do try to bring in new books every now and then, but generally I kind of stick to a few basics and just read those on repeat. 0 (43m 8s): I actually, I liked that because I'm sure that you notice going around and reading it again and third time in a four time that you miss stuff and you didn't even probably grasp what, like the first time you go through a book, what do you grasped? 20, 30% of what's really in it. 1 (43m 24s): Yeah. I think that there are certain times when you're more receptive to a certain message. And when you read a book over and over again, different takeaways are going to hit you at times that you need them more so than other times. So I always like to do that, just read these books constantly. And I feel like they're always giving you new information for new periods of life. And a lot of the times you can forget the stuff that you read. You can kind of fall out of practice with some of these things. So it's kind of a good reminder. 0 (43m 50s): Yeah. I have an issue sometimes where I, I like to buy books and then, you know, I, I like to buy, it's a good feeling. It's a good, it's a good feeling. It's cool. And you know, I'll read them, I'll get it. But sometimes I'll like, I'll get into them for a bit. And then I'm like, well, I think I maybe should try something else, but I like your idea. Maybe I'll just start reading through and then over again, just the, just the hammer at home, you know, especially if you read the book, I wanted to talk a little bit about your challenge. Cause I have one as well. And regarding the carnival one, what's the, what's the basis behind that one. 1 (44m 30s): Yeah. So the carnivore diet, the 21 day carnivores shred challenge, we're really combining both of the things that I love about diet. So it's, it's high protein to energy ratio. It's also, you know, a carnivores style of eating. So we're really focusing on a high protein, moderate, fat, low carb style of eating. Some people within the challenges we'll do intermittent fasting, but it's not something that we require. You know, we, we tend to provide three meals a day and per personalized macros to each participant. And also in terms of, you know, whether they have any issues with dairy, 0 (45m 5s): How do you do the personalized macros for each individual? Is it a quiz that they take or do you talk to them on the phone? Okay. 1 (45m 12s): Yeah. So, so we usually go through a quiz and we'll, we'll go through activity levels, things like that to determine what maintenance looks like. And then we stick to just a really simple one-to-one protein to fat that tends to, you know, you're getting a lot of protein. You're also getting a good amount of fat. If you're in a hyper caloric state to begin with, we don't really want to minimize the fat because that's going to be basically the only energy calories you're getting throughout the challenge, these fat calories cause proteins not really being burned as, as a huge energy source. So we, we try to keep it. One-to-one now the only thing that differentiates that from the PE diet is the PE diet. 1 (45m 54s): We're not setting, you know, a calorie limit. We're not really setting a specific macros. You're kind of eating to satiety. That's when high protein to energy ratio really comes into play. But with these 21 day challenges, since we are setting calories at a certain level, we can kind of do that one-to-one but yeah, so that's, that's pretty much how it works. And then each week throughout the three weeks, we like to do a personal development, excuse me, would like to do a personal development challenge at the beginning of the, at the beginning of the week. So it might be a 5:00 AM challenge. It might be a cold shower challenge. It might be a reading challenge, things like that. So 0 (46m 33s): Challenges within the challenge. 1 (46m 35s): Yes. Yes. Cause it's, it's really all the whole point of this is to be sustainable and for it to be a lifestyle change for people and just targeting the diet and the fitness is good. But if we can also start to incorporate more structure in life, which comes with the early morning wake-ups, which comes with a meditation challenge or reading challenge, then that just improves on all aspects. So yeah, I, I, I'm a huge fan of that 0 (47m 5s): As far as protein is concerned. What I know you probably hear it from five different people, five different answers, but how much protein would you say that you aim for maybe yourself or even individuals in the challenge? 1 (47m 20s): Yeah. Yeah. So, so with individuals in the challenge, usually let's say we're doing one-to-one depending on what their calories are. I do like the idea of having people at about one gram per pound of desired body weight. You can go off of lean mass, you can go off of total body weight, but if you're looking at what's your desired body weight, where are you trying to get a one gram per pound of that? I like that. Whether you're bulking or cutting, I really liked that. And I think it's simple for me personally. I really don't track anything these days. So I would guess that I'm over 200 grams of protein a day. 1 (48m 4s): I weigh about one 60. I'm doing about two pounds of red meat a day through New York steaks. I'm doing Greek yogurt. I do a bit of whey protein isolate. I do six eggs a day. Sometimes I'll incorporate things like oysters and stuff like that. 0 (48m 23s): We're back. We cut out for a second. No, I hear so about one gram per pound of body weight for protein. Yeah. I liked that. And I think you can adjust it depending on the individual per se. And if they're in more of a growth mode or, you know, for example, if, if they, if they wanna, you know, maybe cut back a little bit, not be in a growth mode and they're fasting more, they probably don't need as much per se. 1 (48m 46s): W one of the interesting things is I've, I've seen so many different studies on protein and when you're in a, in a bulking mode, sometimes minimizing protein can actually be really helpful proteins, extremely satiating, but it's not going to fill your muscle glycogen out the way that, you know, carbs would it's, it's not really gonna provide an energy calorie source. And let's say you're training hard. You're trying to bulk up. And you're in a surplus. If all of those calories are coming from protein, we've seen from protein overfeeding studies that your metabolism's ramped up and you're just burning through those calories. And some people even lose they'll lose body fat in a protein overfeeding study. So going super high protein, if you're trying to bulk sometimes can work against you and you might want to replace some of those protein calories with some carbs or fats. 1 (49m 36s): Stan efforting has a lot of cool information on that. But for me, just for simplicity sake, like these days it's really set it and forget it. So I just always focus on a protein goal each day. And if I'm cutting, then I only hit the protein goal. If I'm bulking, then I'll hit the protein goal and then have some extra food on top of that. So that's, that's pretty much it, 0 (49m 60s): Like you mentioned the carbs and I know you like to sort of back load your carbs to help us sleep. Are you saying that? Yeah, 1 (50m 7s): It's partially to help with sleep because we are getting into that parasympathetic state when we're having those carbs at night. But for me really it's to minimize damage. Like if, if you're having carbs early in the day, then who knows what you might just keep having carbs. So to me, it's like, it's just simpler if I tell myself, okay, you're bulking. Yes. But you got to hit your protein goal first. And when you hit that, then you can have some carbs if you still want them at the end of the day, it's kinda like a safety mechanism for me. 0 (50m 39s): Yeah. I agree for me. I do the same thing. If I, if I break my fast, let's just say typically around one or two o'clock I'll, I'll stick to like higher, a little more higher protein, moderate, fat, almost like no car, maybe a little bit of car, because I've just known. I noticed even before, when I got, before I got into eating meat and things like that, I would have this big salad in the middle of the day and you're thinking, oh, this is, this is fine. But like, I felt it, I could feel a difference in like, you know, you don't want to feel like you've got to take a, even though there's nothing wrong with a power nap. I didn't, I didn't really like that feeling of, you know, like thinking I have to take one. 0 (51m 22s): So like, for example, today I just had eggs and a little bit of a salmon and a little bit of cottage cheese. And I really, you know, I'm actually, I actually have a CGM right now. I don't know if you've ever done continuous glucose monitor, but it's interesting to see how different foods impact me and, and it didn't really affect it much at all. So I think that's important to just keep those insulin levels, you know, at a baseline throughout the day. And then if you want to have a little more carbs habit towards the end of the day, not too late, obviously you don't want to have a too close to when you're going to sleep, but if you could have it three, four hours before you go to sleep like you, for example, I know you like sweet potato every once in a while and things like that. 0 (52m 5s): That's a good idea. 1 (52m 7s): I, I totally agree with that. And it's just nice. It's a nice mental benefit to know throughout the day that you're, you're, you're not having carbs. So when you're not having carbs, you're in ketosis, your mind is kind of at its best. You're in a bit of that sympathetic nervous system state. Cause you're eating a little bit lighter. I like knowing that mentally. So I just know that I'm at my best throughout the day. And then at the end of the day, when I have the carbs, it almost kind of signals to my brain. Like, all right. We're, we're kind of done for the day. 0 (52m 38s): Yeah. Time to shut it off. Yes. And I, and I wanted to, we're going to wrap up, but I wanted to ask you one last couple of last questions. One was since this podcast is based around aiming, you know, for individuals who are, you know, middle-aged looking to get their body backs. You're not quite middle-aged yet, but what's one tip, but you have lots of good. You have lots of good tips. So what's one tip you'd, you'd give a middle-aged individual that wanted to get their body or even their mind back to what it once was. 1 (53m 10s): Oh boy. What a great question. So if, if you're, middle-aged, let's say you're in your forties, fifties, and you want to get your body and your mindset back to where it was. I would, I would give like a few really, really recommendations. The first one would be implemented. Some intermittent fasting, implement some style of training that you can do on a daily basis. You don't have to be going crazy on a daily basis, but there's something mentally about kind of checking in with that training every single day, it's going to keep your body limber. It's going to help with mobility. And if you're training daily, then you'll have time kind of for all the different aspects, you need the strength training, the stretching, the, you know, if you want to do some cardio core work. 1 (53m 55s): So I like that a daily training practice, a daily fasting press practice, and then a style of eating similar to what we talked about. If you can base it around high quality animal proteins, I always kind of prefer red meat, pasture-raised eggs, maybe some wild caught seafood, maybe some grass fed dairy. If you can base your diet around that. And then on top of that, if you want to add in a few greens, if you want to add in some berries, you want to add in a little bit of that, that's fantastic. So those three things, and I would really say in terms of eating, don't try to lose all the fat at once. Don't try to set like a really crazy calorie deficit. 1 (54m 36s): You're going to kind of burn out mentally and physically just allow yourself to eat, to satiety with those foods. If you're doing that and training and doing some fasting, you're going to start to trend in the right direction. And then the last thing mindset wise, Ooh, it's a toss up, but I would, I would say get a good book on goal setting. One that I would highly highly recommend is by a lady named honoree Corder, and it's called vision to reality. Short-term I think it's how short-term massive action leads to longterm maximum results. And it's just an excellent, excellent book on quarterly setting, quarterly goals. 1 (55m 20s): That basically her hypothesis is that you can achieve your yearly goals many times within about a hundred days, if you're actually focused on it. And you're taking a lot of short-term massive action. These, these yearly goals sometimes a year is so far out that you'll see this happen with a lot of people in October, they start to realize, holy crap, I'm not going to hit my yearly goals and they might try to sprint towards the finish line, but they could have done that in January, just as, just as well. So I think that's a fantastic book that lose 20 pounds this year goal. You could probably do it in a hundred days. If you're focused on what you're doing, you know, that finally take a course in whatever skill it happens to be. 1 (56m 5s): You could probably do it in one quarter. So I think that book is fantastic to just kind of get you on track and get that feed, get that feeling of momentum of speed, of motivation, of getting zoned in getting lasered in because when your motivation is on track and when you've got really clear goals, it just flipped a switch in your mind, you feel unstoppable, you feel ready to go, you feel ready to take on these different challenges. And then you combine that with a great, you know, exercise program, a great diet program like you're in fighting shape. So those would be my best recommendations. 0 (56m 44s): Yeah. A lot of good things. And I agree, I got to get that mindset, right. It's called vision to reality. Is that the name of the book? 1 (56m 50s): Yeah. Vision to reality, how short-term massive action leads to long-term maximum results by honoree Corder. Okay. 0 (56m 56s): I'll have to put a link in the show notes for that one 1 (57m 0s): Discount code. Okay. 0 (57m 4s): That's fine. 1 (57m 6s): The scan code 21 day carnivores won't do anything. 0 (57m 13s): Well, this was great. A ton of actionable tips. It was really nice meeting you. And I think our viewers and listeners will get a ton of value from all this. Where's the best place. I know you have a few sites, but what would be the best place to find you and learn what you're doing next? 1 (57m 31s): Yeah. I really funnel everything through my Instagram. So I'm just Instagram at William Shufeldt S H E w F E L T. And that is where I, you know, I'm posting about diet training stuff. So that's that's for one audience. And then I've also got my music stuff on there. I've also got a few acting projects I'm working on currently. So I promote that on there as well. You know, the 21 day carnivores SRE challenges. We promote those on there. So yeah, that's, that's kind of the, where I put everything. 0 (58m 4s): So William Shufeldt Instagram, I'll put a link for that as well. All right. Well, thanks so much for coming on and sharing all your knowledge and insight at such a young age. 1 (58m 17s): No, I really appreciate you having me on. 0 (58m 20s): Yeah, well, I appreciate having you on and yeah. Enjoy the rest of your day. 1 (58m 27s): Awesome. You too, man. Thanks. 0 (58m 31s): Thanks for listening to the get lean eat clean podcast. I understand there are millions of other podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine. And I appreciate that. Check out the show notes@briangrin.com for everything that was mentioned in this episode, feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member. That's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again, and have a great day.
