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Interview with Trent McEntire: Fire Up Your Brain!

October 20, 2022 in Podcast


This week I interviewed the inventor of the Brain Speed Ball, Trent McEntire! Trent’s mission is to deliver his methods and tools to children who struggle with focus; seniors who have lost their balance and mobility, individuals experiencing neurological conditions; and athletes who have suffered concussions and injuries. The Fire Up Your Brain program was created by Trent as a fun, engaging, and affordable way to support this mission. In this episode, we discuss all the different applications for the brain speed ball and how kids, seniors and athletes can excel both in life and sport! Connect with Trent: https://www.fireupyourbrain.com/

Brian (0s):

Coming up on the get lean EAN podcast,

Trent (3s):

Making it a fun game was really important to me because when something is fun, the brain stays curious. It pays attention, it wants to be involved. And so it's really about how do, how to make this accessible for anybody. You know, for really little kids, the balls always hit for, for somebody who's older, senior working on their balance. They probably haven't played with the ball in years, and it's hysterical for them to be playing catch for the first time in maybe 20, 30, 40 years. And for athletes that are already using a ball, for example, they already, they already have to have these skills until you can find where they have gaps in where their eyes can move. That are playing a role in throughout athletic performance.

Brian (44s):

Hello, and welcome to the get lean E clean podcast. I'm Brian GRN and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was five, 10, even 15 years ago each week. I'll give you an in-depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long term sustainable results. This week, I interview the inventor of brain speed ball, Trent McIntyre transmissions to deliver his methods and tools to children who struggle with focus, seniors, who've lost their balance and mobility individuals, experience neurological conditions and athletes who have suffered concussions and injuries.

Brian (1m 24s):

The fire up your brain program was created by Trent as a fun, engaging, and affordable way to support this mission. We discuss all different types of applications for the brain speed ball. I actually just got mine today and I'm excited to use it. So definitely check out this interview. It's geared towards kids, seniors, athletes, or anyone looking to Excel both in life in sport and enhance their cognitive brain activity. So thanks so much for listening and enjoy the interview. All right, welcome to the get lean E clean podcast. My name is Brian grin and I have the creator of brain speedball, Trent MacIntyre. Welcome to the show.

Trent (2m 3s):

Thanks Brian. Thanks for having me

Brian (2m 5s):

All the way from Michigan, right? Not too far from Chicago. Have you been there your whole life?

Trent (2m 12s):

Yeah, I was born and raised here. I grew up on a small farm and then just moved into a, a bigger part of the population of the state later on after college.

Brian (2m 21s):

Excellent. And yeah, I actually meant Trent through a, through a mutual source and I was very curious about his, his techniques and his and his company called fire up your brain.com perhaps before we get into all that, maybe let everyone know a little bit your story, how you got into creating this brain speed ball and sort of what led you down that route.

Trent (2m 46s):

Yeah, well, it's, it's really about my, my own personal journey and it becoming something that helped others. So I, I was born with a class, one cerebral palsy, and that's, there's a lot of people born with the class one it's class. One is like, you don't really know by looking at somebody that there's really any movement limitations, but there are, there's some pretty significant ones, but I didn't know it, I grew up not knowing that I had a reason to feel the way I felt I was always really stiff and pretty sore and had a lot of pain from all the limitation, but I eventually, you know, I was, I was athletic, so I just sort of like made it work with basketball.

Trent (3m 26s):

And then I got into dance and dance became something that made me feel better because there's so much stretching and it became therapeutic on top of being able to be an athlete. And I had some skill and some talent at it, and I ended up gonna college and getting a scholarship. And for me coming from my small town, that was like my way out to make something of my life. And so I followed that pathway. And when I got to college, I, you know, being one of just a couple men in the program, I was dancing a lot and it was a pretty demanding schedule. And I woke up one morning and I could barely walk to the shower. I had inflammation and pain from the knees down that I thought, man, this is, this is it.

Trent (4m 8s):

I'm not sure I'm, I'm gonna get over. This is pretty severe feeling. And I went, I was out, I happened to coincide with the break. So I was home for Christmas and I was just kind of complaining to my mom. I was like, I don't get why this is happening. Like, it's like really specific on both legs from the knees down, all this pain and inflammation and I don't get it. And she's like, well, Trent that's because you're born with cerebral palsy. And so I was 19 when I was first told that there would be a reason why it felt don't you were three. And I was like, nah, I don't really remember three, but yeah, they, they put cast on your legs because my heels couldn't touch the ground. And so they, the doctors put cast on my legs to force my heels down so that I would have some range of motion in my ankles.

Trent (4m 55s):

And that's when I remembered having the cast. I had this like flash memory of being in the snow and having garbage bags on my legs to protect them from getting wet. And that was the start of my curiosity and how to overcome movement limitations. And I, I went on to use my, my training in my degree with kinesiology and movement sciences and anatomy and all of these really helpful pieces to rehab my own injury and going through the process of discovering it and then rehabbing my own injury, really launched the whole thing. That's kind of like the first arm of it.

Brian (5m 34s):

Excellent. And thanks for sharing that. So you created the brain speed ball in 2015, is that correct?

Trent (5m 44s):

Yeah, that's right.

Brian (5m 46s):

And maybe explain to people, cuz obviously there's people, some, maybe some people watching, but most people probably listening. What is the brain, the brain speed ball. Say that 20 times. And, and how, how does it, you know, work as far as helping, you know, seniors, athletes and kids? I noticed.

Trent (6m 6s):

Yeah. Yeah. So that's, I'll, I'll kind of tell the story of how it became a thing and that might help people understand it. So after I rehabed my own injury, I went on to dance professionally and, and had a lot of success there. But I, I have never, I'd never been able to read without falling asleep. I get like one sentence into reading a book and fall asleep. And in fact, you know, the solution in school was like, he has a hard time reading some people more reading, but it wasn't that I couldn't comprehend what I was reading. It was that physically my eyes didn't work well together. And in my thirties I discovered by working with a vision therapist that my eyes didn't work well together.

Trent (6m 50s):

And, and I did a couple exercises at a conference one time and I was like, man, like my back even feels better. And I have better range of motion to my neck and my shoulders aren't as tight just from doing these eye exercises. And you know, in doing some research and finding the, this correlation between eye movement and eye exercise in like just about every other output, we have movement wise focus, balance athletic performance are tied to the eyes. And you know, a lot of the, a lot of the resources will, I think all of the resources at the time for eyes, weren't fun. They weren't, they weren't a game. They weren't fun that wasn't something you could just do easily for a few minutes.

Trent (7m 31s):

And so that's when I decided to invent the brain speed ball and that's, that's, it's like a nine inch ball for those of you. If you're watching the video, if you're not seeing a video, then I'll describe it to you. It's a, it's a orange ball. It's a bright orange ball. It's about nine inches and it has a through Z and one through 12 printed on it. And so Brian like you and I would play game a catch. And as you're catching the ball, you're watching it come into your hands. So you're tracking with your eyes and that eye tracking piece of it is what is tied directly to your brain performance. And so if we can get your eyes to be stronger in multiple ranges of motion, then we have better focus. Seniors have better balance. We get athletes to run faster, jump higher, have less injuries because of that crazy tie between the eyes and the brain.

Trent (8m 14s):

And so then what we do is as you're catching the ball and you're tracking it, you're gonna say out loud what you see? So you catch the ball and then you see it's a P so you say it out loud, go back and forth. You catch it again 10 and you say it out loud. And what happens is we're tapping into a cycle that your brain is already using, which is it's sensing what's going on in the world. You're deciding what to do about it. And then you act on it. So that sense decide, act cycle is already happening in the brain. But when you are catching it and saying it out loud, you are tapping into that cycle and reinforcing that brain processing cycle. And so that's where the brain speed ball kind of gets its name because we're trying to improve how strong and coordinated your eyes are, but also tapping into how you bring already naturally processes, but making it a game, something that's boring that nobody wants.

Brian (9m 5s):

Yeah. That's interesting. Did what brought you, because obviously there's a lot of, shouldn't say there's a bit of like maybe brain or eye enhancement things on the market. How did you come about with the braid speedball? What sort of led you to, to invent that?

Trent (9m 23s):

Well, it's really about movement. There's a lot of eye drills and exercises that exist, but they're not really a movement based and they're not really using movement to show that before and after results. And so, you know, you're playing this game from like one to five minutes and we can do it before and after test and you can feel, and you can literally see the improvement and measure it. So making it a fun game was really important to me because when something is fun, the brain stays curious, it pays attention, it wants to be involved. And so it's really about how do, how to make this accessible for anybody, you know, for really little kids, the ball's always a hit for, for somebody who's older, senior working on their balance.

Trent (10m 4s):

They probably haven't played with the ball in years and it's hysterical for them to playing catch for the first time and maybe 20, 30, 40 years. And for athletes that are already using a ball, for example, they already, they already have to have these skills. And so you can find where they have gaps in where their eyes can move, that are playing a role in their athletic performance.

Brian (10m 26s):

Interesting. And who who's this gear ball geared towards? I know we talk about, you know, kids, seniors, and athletes, but if people are like just wanting to enhance like brain health and, and, and eye health, is that like pretty much geared towards almost anyone I would imagine.

Trent (10m 44s):

Yeah. But you know, I'll kind, I'll tell you a couple stories of how people are using it. Yeah. You know, I got, I got a call from my mom actually in Chicago that I'd never met who who's given a brain speed ball by a friend for her, but her daughter found it and started coming up with games on her own bouncing against the wall and kind of calling it out loud and making up word associations and various things. And she called me and said, trying, I have to tell you like this ball changed our, our life because my daughter who's 13 for the first time and sit, do her homework. So for them it was about focus. And imagine that dynamic in the family, when, you know, it's stressful, if you have kids and, and they, they can't, or won't, or aren't doing their homework, it becomes like the family's household stress every day.

Trent (11m 28s):

It's a battle. And so for them, that's, that's the, to help, which is amazing. You know, we've had, I've had friend and client that had a traumatic brain injury. He was on a motorcycle and he was going 70 miles an hour and hit a cement wall headfirst about a 45 degree angle and broke like 20 some bones. Wow. It's pretty severe. I, I intersected his care when he had just let go of any kind of walking device, like no cane, no crutches, no wheelchair. We kind of like what he calls a drunk penguin kind of walked into my space.

Trent (12m 10s):

We played for less than 10 minutes. And his walk looked totally normal and it stayed that way and never went back. And he, he eventually was able to go back to work full time and restore his quality of life and, you know, get everything back. So, you know, for each person it's different, but you know, it's, it's amazing that it can be contextualized because we all have eyes. We all have a brain, you know, most of us, you know, sometimes I question it for myself, but you know, and it's something that we're just tapping into what already exists. You know, I didn't invent a correlation. I just am identifying the fact that if we can make it a game, we can get really powerful and fast results for people.

Brian (12m 48s):

And then what about for athletes? I, I actually coach golf. I wonder if it has any yeah. Help that

Trent (12m 56s):

It's fun for golfers because you know, the, the last thing that I, that I do with my golfers is tell them how to golf and tell them how to stand and tell them how to look and tell them how to swing because it's micromanaging. The brain and technique is never a good idea, but if I can increase how strong their eyes are and literally the range of motion that they have, then it improves the swing. Naturally. I had a golfer years ago who didn't know that I don't golf. I mean, I, I swing a club at a driving range, but I don't golf. I don't have golf skill. I'm not a golf instructor by any means.

Trent (13m 38s):

He didn't know that. I said, let's work on your golf. He's like, okay. So that's what I used. I used the brain speed ball in these eye exercises and going through that brain cycle and his golfing kept improving and improving, improving man. And I said, I gotta tell you something. I don't golf. I don't even really know how to go. He's like, what, how can you help me? I was like, it's not about your it's about your senses. We gotta get your senses stronger so that your brain gets better. Information kinda blew his mind. It was,

Brian (14m 5s):

Yeah. That's really interesting. What other gaps could it fill? Like especially people aging and like, obviously I had, I'm like drawn a blank on his name. I've had a lot of guests, but he and myopia, I believe was his website and myopia.org, but either way, any ways to sort of help and maybe prevent even getting glasses.

Trent (14m 29s):

Well, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of research that shows that I exercises help to improve visual acuity. Like how clear we see my focus is really based on helping quality of life and balance and movement and filling in the, the things that, that really become an issue as we age. You know, I, I do have some people that I work with that are very curious and push a lot in the, the direction of visual acuity. It's just, I find we get such big results, especially for seniors. I mean, somebody who who's, who's aging about to be a senior who is a senior and even in, into their eighties or, you know, nineties, I've got clients, it's really like, you know, they they're walking and they miss a curb and they fall.

Trent (15m 10s):

And they're like, how did I miss that curb? Well, you could literally not see it if, if your eyes are weak and you're not really able to see it, then you don't realize it's there. And so improving what you can see then helps your body know what terrain you're navigating on the move. And then when it comes to balance, I mean the fall prevention is huge as you age that's, that's like, yeah, that's it right there. That's really where you wanna not be falling. And that that's directly connected to your eyes and your inner ear, that inner ear is where your balance lives. And so all this eye and head movement strengthens that system so that you can prevent that.

Brian (15m 50s):

So with the ball, is this something that you, you do maybe every day, every other day, or is there some type of protocol that you have for it?

Trent (15m 56s):

Yeah. A few minutes a day, you know, depending on how, what your goal is and how big of a thing you're trying to achieve, but definitely daily. I mean, I have one on each of my desks, whether I'm at home or in my office, because for me, I'm doing a lot of screen time. And so that's, I need to, I need to get outta screen time. I need to have something that's not just my eyes staring at this little space in front of me, cuz then you know, then your body hurts and get a headache and things like that. So I use it kind as a support for sitting a long time if I have to have one of those days, but just a few minutes a day it's, it's, it's really simple. It's this, isn't something you have to, you don't have to be a brain scientist to, to know how to play and you just, it's, it's pretty simple.

Brian (16m 43s):

And is it so you could play obviously throw it up against the wall or just play a catch with someone else pretty much. Is that the, the two options?

Trent (16m 52s):

Yeah. There's hundreds of ways to play, but you can, you can play games that are against the wall by yourself and you could play with a friend or family member, or

Brian (17m 0s):

I wonder if there's, so is there like a way to test if you've improved? I mean obviously if you're doing it for a sport, maybe you can tell a little bit of, I mean, I'm a big golfer, so maybe I'll try it for that. Have every other training aid for golf. So I might as well get one more.

Trent (17m 15s):

Yeah. Well for golf I would do, I would, I would, I would pick a swing or pick, pick a something you're doing that. You're working on that that has a challenge. Okay. And do like five or 10 of them in a row and then play with the brain speed ball for three or four minutes and then go back and repeat the same thing. So I like to do before and after test. So you you're testing the same thing. So you can see if you're getting, if you can move the needle to make a change happen. And ultimately, you know, there's, there's a couple rules to follow when you're playing the game. You know, first of all, it's gotta be fun because if it's not fun, then the brain's not gonna, you're not gonna wanna keep going. And you really are training the senses. So you really wanna be, keep your eyes locked on that ball.

Trent (17m 55s):

So if it's traveling through space, you are using your eyes and your senses to determine where it is and to catch it. And, and by following those simple rules, you can, you can then do your after test and see if you could move the needle on improving that swing for someone who's trying to improve balance, you could, you could walk a single file line, heel toe. You could stand in one leg and see what your balance feels like. You know, you could close your eyes, you know, you could do different things. That's a before test or, or just go for a walk like you normally would and you know, do your half hour or your hour walk. And then the next day play the rain speed ball before you take your walk and just see what it feels like.

Trent (18m 35s):

See if your stride feels easier. See if you feel like you have a little more awareness of your surroundings visually. Hmm. And it's really just about finding a before and after it's an activity you do, then you play the ball and you repeat the activity so that you can make the, the, the determination if you've made a change.

Brian (18m 52s):

Yeah. It's interesting. You talk about making changes. Like I'm just speaking for golf, but like, it's like for someone like myself, I've been playing for, you know, 20, over 20 years and it's a little bit, I find it's more difficult as I've gotten older, cuz that, you know, I've, I've had a, the same swing for a long time to make those changes someone who's 20 years old, who hasn't done much with golf can make changes probably pretty quick and, and have it stick. But for me to change something that I've been doing for 20 years, it's, it's, it's pretty difficult. So I think for most golfers finding a way to make changes in a quicker motion in a quicker manner is, is, is like the, one of the, the big sort of the big puzzles that we all wish we could find, you know?

Trent (19m 37s):

Yeah. And that's really the third rule is that the brain is plastic. That's why it works. So because the brain is plastic and you can change it. Certainly when you're younger, you can make big, bigger, faster changes because there's less, there's less data written on the brain. So can, you can make those changes. However, when you're younger also, you don't have quite the attention. Sometimes it's, you know, you have a young athlete and sometimes they're very focused, but you don't have the same kinda attention, but it all comes down to what's at stake for someone. And if you they're very committed to like doing this because there's a lot at stake for them, that's really where it gets fun because it's like, OK, you need to run faster. Cause you need to win your race.

Trent (20m 18s):

Well, let's make you run faster and we can measure it. You know, let's run a 40, play the ball, run it again. I bet you faster. I there's, there's only, there's only, there's only two times where I've seen something not improve when the game was too easy or the game was too hard. And if it's too easy, that means you're never dropping the ball. It just feels like I could do this all day. That's too easy. That's not gonna help you. If it's too hard, then you're always dropping the ball. You can't track it. It's not working. So you wanna play in a sweet spot where you, you drop the ball once in a while, it's challenging. It stays fun. And that's when you get the results.

Brian (20m 58s):

Interesting. And with playing the game, I, I just, from a high level, I know there's a lot of different ways to do it, but you're catching the ball then. And then saying the letter that you see first, is that right?

Trent (21m 10s):

Okay. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're, you're watching the ball fly through the air and when you catch it, you know, maybe you saw the letter before you caught it, but maybe you found it after it kind of got in your hands and then you say it out loud. So you have the eye tracking piece. And then because you're saying it out loud, you're going through that sense decide act cycle that your brain already relies on, but you're just reinforcing it. And of course, you know, saying what you see out loud is one thing, but you can also then make word association. So instead of saying the letter D you might say Detroit, or instead of with the numbers, you might do some addition. So you catch a two. The next thing you catch is a five. So you say seven and you can come up with new, like creative games. That way that creativity is an important part of it.

Trent (21m 50s):

So it stays fresh.

Brian (21m 51s):

Yeah. And this is, yeah, I would. Yeah. Obviously for kids, this is a fun game. Is this, is this something that you've implemented with different schools and stuff?

Trent (22m 2s):

Yeah, we have, there's a fun preschool story. I'll tell you, we have a preschool that uses it. And the there's a fun activity where they sit in a circle and they put the ball on the ground in the middle and you know, they don't know their letters and numbers necessarily. And so they'll roll the ball and then they have to stop it, put their finger on a letter or number. And then with the teacher's help, they learn what that is and maybe a word association with it. And what happens is, is it builds a group dynamic because the kids are really curious. Like, what'd you get what'd you get, you know, and they, they kind of track with it. So even if the ball's not coming to the kids, they're tracking it with their eyes across the room, in the circle. So, and so it's, the eye exercises are built in you, you don't know you're doing an eye exercise.

Trent (22m 42s):

It doesn't feel like an eye exercise. You're not being instructed on, let's do our eye exercises. You know, it's just, we're playing a game with the ball and you, you have a word association or some kind of game that hits you wrapped into it. You don't even realize that you're doing something. That's that powerful.

Brian (22m 57s):

Yeah. I think the fact that it's fun is probably the number one thing, because like, even for kids and even for myself, like, I've never been like a big reader. Like I'll, I like to read more now than as an adult than I did as a kid. Cuz I, I just understand the importance of it. But, but I'm sure there's a lot of kids who just don't wanna read and don't have the intention span to read.

Trent (23m 18s):

Yeah. Well a lot of reading complications come from the eyes not working well together. And when I was, I was telling you earlier about, you know, doing this vision therapy and then having my body improve part of what happened in that trip is that I had, I was, I, I was, at that time I was listening to audiobook. Couldn't read and I was too ashamed to say that I was listening to audiobooks and I would say, oh, I'm reading a book. Right. Cause that's, that would be socially acceptable at that time. Just say, oh, I'm reading a book. And a client of mine was like, oh, that that's a cool series. And I said, oh, I gotta get the next one in the series. Cause I'm going on this trip. And I need to have something to, to read while I'm there. Of course. I mean, listen, I mean get the audio book and listen to it, but I'm saying reading it.

Trent (23m 59s):

So the next time she came in, she brought me the next book in the series and I was like, oh, oh thanks. I was like, oh, okay. Now I have to get the audio. I have to listen to the audio and like report back to her. I have this whole like, it's like this shame storm came in. I've got, oh, I've gotta do this now. Well on that trip, when I did the eye exercises and had this connection, like, okay, I can read better. I was able to read that whole book on the airplane, which I could never do would make me sick. I can read the whole book on my airplane trip back from California. And when I got home, I, I told my wife, I'm like, I need to get the rest of the series. And she's like, do you mean the audio book? And I was like, no, the book she's like, who are you? And what have you done with my husband? Because you don't read. I'm like, well, I can now. And it was literally an eye exercise that, that opened the door for me.

Trent (24m 41s):

And so for any kids that are struggling with reading, this is where it's at. It's because being able to read and remove that frustration is a, is a huge advantage in school.

Brian (24m 53s):

Yeah. Oh my God. For sure. Yeah. And so it can actually not only help you read, but maybe even the speed of, of the way you're reading.

Trent (25m 1s):

Well, yeah, because imagine like, it's really like, we, we're used to measuring strength of our muscles and our arms and our legs and you look at it the same way with your eyes. So the stronger your eyes are, the better you can do all the activities that your eyes are being asked to do, including re faster.

Brian (25m 17s):

Wow. Oh, this is great. I'll have to get some for the team. I'm just trying to think if people are gonna look at us on the range and we're playing catcher the ball, but

Trent (25m 28s):

Good. Let them look. Cause yes, your scores will get better and theirs won't

Brian (25m 34s):

Yeah, no kidding. Right. And I feel like it'd be something fun, something different, you know? Cause I feel like that's the one thing to not keep going back to golf, but I think golf can sometimes be boring for kids when it comes to practice. Right? Like how can I make this entertaining for kids and keep them engaged? Because you know, I feel like in general attention spans have just gone down. And so it's like we do one station to the next and that sort of keeps them engaged. But you know, this could be something that you could just add in and you do it. Would you say you play for just like a couple minutes and then go back? Yeah.

Trent (26m 7s):

One, one to five minutes. That's what we're playing. Yeah. Yeah. I, I coach volleyball. So I have a, a college volleyball team that I coach. And so it's a part of their, their practice. It's a part of their warmups and they're just playing for three to five minutes and it's just built into their, their, I already already existed activities. You know, it's not, we're not playing for an hour. It's not something that really becomes like a special activity that replaces something that they miss. It's just included. And, and I help them understand the correlation so that when they're, they're trying to track the balls, it's going back and forth or they're trying to understand where they are in relationship to the net that, you know, their eyes play a crucial role in that.

Trent (26m 50s):

So as a result, their hitting gets better. They jump higher. They're faster on their feet.

Brian (26m 56s):

Yeah. And it's interesting, obviously this is, this is simply a ball with letters and numbers on it. And what, like obviously what, what made you come up with that? Like, I'm just curious cuz like you see event inventions. You're like, yeah, that seems so simple. But how did they come up with that?

Trent (27m 13s):

Yeah. Yeah. Well orange is my favorite color and okay. It also happens to be a great contrast with black. So it's, it really gives you a nice background to see. And some of the, the letter number balls that have existed are like white, hard plastic hanging from a string, like super uninviting, super boring. And, and it's like, like I don't get it like this. Isn't fun. Why do I wanna do this? And especially when you take taking kids to, to do these exercises with their doctor, which it's important, but they don't wanna do the homework at home because it isn't fun. And I've had many kids come in that like they bring their, their homework sheets from their vision therapist and it's great exercises and they were given really good information, but none of it's fun and it's like, well, let's play game a catch and get you engaged this way.

Trent (28m 2s):

And like, oh this is fun. And they're reading better and they're focusing and their anxiety's going down. They can regulate themselves. And you know, for, for kids that need support and just self-regulation playing with this for just a minute against the wall is a huge contributor to self-regulation.

Brian (28m 21s):

Wow. Well, yeah, this is great trend. Is there anything else that, you know, I sort of missed, or you want to add regarding this, obviously the, the best place to find you is fire up your brain.com.

Trent (28m 33s):

Yeah. Yeah. You can read more about, you know, my story, other stories and other videos. We have people that we've, we've helped and learn more about, you know, the sort of the story of the ball and help you. And, and I've talked about a lot of different stories, but ultimately know that it's a really simple, fun game. That's the bottom line like is this is like, how could we make this really simple and fun so that you wanna do it because I'm also want have something that I wanna do. I don't, we all have activities that we have to do. It's like, I don't, I don't want my brain to something I have to do.

Brian (29m 7s):


Trent (29m 7s):

I want it to be something that I wanna do and making it fun. And you know, for you, with your athletes, you know, just playing the game with them gives you the exercise too. So it's something that, you know, by sharing it with people, you know, I, I love seeing like grandkids and grandparents playing together because it's so good for each of them in such different ways. It's something you can share and it's, it's just making it easy.

Brian (29m 32s):

Yeah. And I'm thinking, I just gotta make sure my dogs don't get ahold of it.

Trent (29m 37s):

Dogs do love it. Yeah. Replace. Yeah. Yeah.

Brian (29m 43s):

Cause they'd pop that they would pop that quick.

Trent (29m 45s):

Yeah, my dog, my dog doesn't pop it, but he chases it. So if we're playing a game, he runs back and forth chasing it, but he won't bite it, but most dogs

Brian (29m 56s):

Does it come with a pump or like a little, if you your no. Okay. It

Trent (30m 1s):

Comes with the basketball, like a basketball needle. Okay. So any, any pump you have, what that uses a needle will work on it.

Brian (30m 8s):

Okay. Well this is great, Trent. I, I really, I never knew about this. I never heard of, but I love getting different guests on here that can talk about, you know, brain health and, and just ways that we can, you know, help kids and then seniors and athletes. So I really appreciate you coming up, coming on the show and, and sharing this.

Trent (30m 28s):

Yeah. It's my pleasure. And I, I, I would love to, to hear how it goes with your golfers. I think that's a great application and, and if I can help you with that, I would love to.

Brian (30m 36s):

Yeah, no, no doubt about it. And yeah. Thanks again. And we'll look out for you fire up your brain.com. Thanks again, Trent.

Trent (30m 44s):

Thanks Brian.

Brian (30m 47s):

Thanks for listening to the get lean EAN podcast. I understand there are millions of other podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine. And I appreciate that. Check out the show notes@briangrn.com for everything that was mentioned in this episode, feel free to subscribe to the podcast, share it with a friend or family member. That's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again, and have a great day.

Trent McEntire

For more than two decades, Trent McEntire has been helping people gain back their mobility – a story he knows well. Born with a mild form of Cerebral Palsy, Trent experienced pain and stiffness every day from the time he was a child. The methods Trent discovered to repair his own body also became the foundation for what would be his life’s work.


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