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Interview with Jared Ralsky: Dominate the Grocery Store, Simplify Your Health and Optimize Your Circadian Rhythm!

August 14, 2023 in Podcast


This week I interviewed holistic health coach aka "the health goat" - Jared Ralsky!

Jared has worked with 4 different NBA franchises and some of the world’s best athletes, and executives. In this episode, we discuss how to simplify your trip to the grocery store, along with:

  • what products to avoid and look for with his brand guide,
  • circadian health,
  • the importance of focusing on "one or two" things when it comes to optimizing your health and his one tip to get your body back to what it once was!

Brian (0s):

Coming up on the GET, LEAN, Eat, Clean Podcast.

Jared (4s):

So like avoiding products with the vegetable and seed oils, avoiding a lot of refined sugars and avoiding, I would say American wheat products and flowers I think can be super detrimental to a lot of people regardless if you're celiac or not, especially like enriched wheat flour. So like those three things would be my main points of emphasis along with the number of ingredients. you know, it's like I don't, I really don't eat that many products that are even packaged to begin with just because obviously going for whole food, single ingredient food is always the way to go regardless of what paradigm you subscribe to.

Jared (49s):

So just getting like simplified products, you know that it's like plantains, coconut oil and salt

Brian (57s):

Hello. and welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. I'm m Brian Gryn and I here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was, five, 10, even 15 years ago. Each week I'll give you an in depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long term sustainable results. This week I interviewed Holistic Health Coach, A K A, the health goat Jared Ralsky. Jared has worked with four NBA franchises and some of the world's best athletes and executives. We discussed how to Simplify your trip to the Grocery store along with what products to avoid and look for with his brand guide, circadian health, the importance of focusing on one or two things when it comes to optimizing your health and his one tip to get your body back to what it once was.

Brian (1m 44s):

Really enjoyed my interview with Jared. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show All, right Welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. My name is Brian Gryn and I have Jared Ralsky. Welcome to the show.

Jared (1m 58s):

Appreciate it man. Like when I first got into the space, I always saw like your podcast and I'm like, my goal is to get on

Brian (2m 6s):


Jared (2m 7s):

And I finally made it so, oh

Brian (2m 9s):

Wow. Well you've made it, well you're blowing up so I, you know, I had to get you on. Holistic Health Coach puts out awesome reels. So check out his Instagram. Your handle is, what's your handle? Is it just Holistic Health Coach or is it changed? No,

Jared (2m 24s):

It's the health goat. the health goat.

Brian (2m 27s):

And how'd you come up with that name?

Jared (2m 30s):

I actually, well it, I had started with a different name originally and then I created a course and named it the health goat just because a lot of like the imagery and theme that I put out there, like us being Chicago guys growing up in the Chicago Bulls dynasty era, it was like Michael Jordan and Muhammad Ali and just like bringing like this sort of culture into the health space 'cause that's like what kind of has always like driven me and I'm just like a fan of these all time. Great. So I'm like, let's just go HealthCo all the way. It just kind of fits the branding and it's, I I definitely think it's helped the cause.

Brian (3m 8s):

Yeah. Greatest of all time. And on your Instagram you put a lot of reels out there. What, what sort of motivates you or what, what's the reasoning behind a lot of these reels?

Jared (3m 21s):

Well obviously I think anybody, any creator would be lying to you if they said that they weren't interested in how many people they're reaching because you know, our livelihoods and our ability to run successful businesses is in essence tied to it in some cases. So you know, the viewers in many cases, like the feedback that we're getting from the algorithm And what people wanna see like can dictate what you're putting out there. So obviously like I have a pretty clear message and then being able to tailor it in certain ways, put my own unique spin on it and like artistic kind of aspect to it like is the motivation and that's what seems to kind of reach as many people as possible, if that makes sense.

Jared (4m 7s):


Brian (4m 7s):

No, for sure. And, what, what got you into this like the health space? I mean some people have these elaborate stories, like what, do you have a story as far as like weight loss or just, you know, maybe health issues that you've overcome or anything like that?

Jared (4m 23s):

Well I was living in Italy for a couple years. I was managing a team in the Italian basketball league And, you know, I felt All, right physically, but I was definitely gaining weight. I mean literally we eat pizza and pasta every meal out there. And then I moved back to the States about six years ago and I was living in Los Angeles and I think most people approach health from an aesthetic standpoint. And I'm like, okay, Los Angeles is pretty competitive, you know, if you're a single guy, like you have to upgrade yourself. So that was kind of the first step. I'm like, I gotta get these chicks so I gotta look better. And it was just like a slow process where you, you realize health is so much more than that and you're like peeling off layers and then like different things occur in your life and then you're kind of getting deeper and deeper.

Jared (5m 9s):

And then long story short, during the pandemic I still work in the M B A and during the pandemic the league shut down for a period of time and I'm, I'm not one of the those type of people that just like stay still and kind of just like, okay, nothing to do. So I went back to school at the Primal Health Institute, which is Mark ens health coaching certification course and did that for six months and then kind of just started creating content coaching mostly people within the basketball space actually. So I'm almost kind of merging the two communities, if that makes sense.

Brian (5m 45s):

Yeah, yeah for sure. Do you feel like there's a need in, in that space within the NBA for like a health influencer to help, you know, help a lot of these athletes? Are you working mainly with athletes?

Jared (5m 57s):

It's actually mostly with coaches is who I'm really targeting. Okay. you know, everybody kind of wants to get their hands on athletes and I know that these philosophies help every human being so I know it would help the athletes but I think it's just a little, it's just a smoother ride if I'm approaching this like let me work with your coaches, you know, because yes they do absolutely need it when you're considering a lot of these guys are working the graveyard shift in a sense where they're up late at night, they have games that could start at 7:30 PM they're just getting bright lights beat down on 'em and then you know, they're really stressed out for a number of reasons.

Jared (6m 40s):

Like you have 17 NBA basketball players, it's like having 17 kids and then they have a family, they're running an organization, they're taking red eye flights, they're hopping time zones, they have food like unlimited access to food. So I kind of look at it as all of us for the most part have a financial advisor and having a health advisor to just help put these decisions on kind automatic, help them kind of just make the decisions for them. Like kind of empower them to create the best possible health routine for their lifestyle, like is invaluable. So I think a lot of guys have that have signed up and gone through it have gotten like it's eye-opening for them.

Brian (7m 27s):

And is that, I know you have a brand guide, a Grocery brand guide, maybe explain that that's, that's something that's, you know, one of your, one of your big items.

Jared (7m 37s):

So basically with the content that you're creating, like a lot of us are gonna be like don't eat this, don't eat this, don't eat that. And like that content gets a lot of play. And then the common response in your comment section is always like, where are the alternatives? We need alternatives. So basically I created this, it's like a 75 page interactive P D F where I went through every item in the Grocery store you can buy. So cereal, chips, cookies, granola, trail mix nuts, butter milk, plant milk. And I'm like just overly simplifying this where it's like these are the five good brands to focus on based off of all my research, based off the ingredients, the sourcing, all these nuances and these are the five or whatever 10 that you want to avoid.

Jared (8m 25s):

And here's the reasoning behind it. So it's like we don't need to watch video after video. I put it all in one source and it's been like a big hit. Like I wasn't expecting it to, you know, people to just like flock to it, but I've sold like hundreds of these already in a month and the feedback has been phenomenal 'cause it's just kind of simplifying a very complicated problem for people where it's like they just want a solution and they just wanna know what to buy and they just want to know like in as quick as terms as possible. So I'm like here it all is, you can literally just go to a table of contents and you're like milk and you click on the milk, it's like A to Z, it takes you directly to the milk page.

Jared (9m 5s):

Here are the good brands, here's what you wanna avoid. And I'm constantly updating it as well 'cause these things do change and new products do come out and yeah it's just like here, here's how to navigate the Grocery store. This isn't a Grocery list. Right. It's like, 'cause I could give two moms the exact same Grocery list and they could come home with vastly different products in terms of how it could be impacting your health based off of the oils that's in it or the flowers or how much sugar. And it's like, let's just equal the playing field. 'cause I think people are like vastly confused by how to, how to go through a Grocery store now.

Brian (9m 44s):

Well yeah, I totally agree with, and I think this is a big need because you know, you go to a Grocery store 20 years ago and there weren't 20 options for like milks and basic stuff, right? Where you'd have like two op two choices and eat whether they were healthy or not. That's beside the point. But now it's like, okay now you have like 20 choices for like drinks, milks. What are some of the, I don't know, most popular items that people sort of point to that, that you feel like maybe you know, they should look out for or, or some items that they should maybe avoid?

Jared (10m 25s):

Well I think sometimes you're, you are kind of splitting hairs where it's like, okay, almond butter, there's not gonna be like a huge difference in like the the good brands versus the bad brands. But when you're getting into more processed foods like cereal or chips, I think trail mix is something that, like I've had clients literally these are like one-on-one coaching clients where they think they're eating something healthy and I don't like blame them and I wouldn't understand people, I wouldn't expect people to understand how to understand these nuances. It's like almost like reading a foreign language. 'cause like you look at these ingredients and they don't know, they haven't gone to school for it So, they think they're getting something healthy because it's marketed that way.

Jared (11m 9s):

And then we just make like some very subtle changes where I'm like, let's get rid of that brand and usher in this one. And they like legitimately feel a difference in their digestion energy. And it's not always, it's always multifactorial, right? But these things, you know, the more we can kind of control what we know we can control the better. So I'd say like if you're really, the first thing you wanna look for is the oils that the product is being made with. So like 95% of products on shelves are really gonna be made with vegetable and seed oils, which I'm sure you're pretty well versed in And. what I would consider like one of the main factors that is leading to people's health deteriorating for a number of reasons.

Jared (11m 58s):

And you're, you really like, you're not gonna get processed food that's made with like butter or it's usually, if it's good it's usually gonna be like coconut oil or maybe avocado oil are gonna be the oils that like you would rather be favoring as opposed to the canola soybean, which both can be genetically modified cotton seed oil, rice brand oil, corn oil, sunflower, safflower, all these things that have basically just been like rapidly ushered into our society and have like no track record in terms of societies that have thrived from a health standpoint using them. So like avoiding products with the vegetable and seed oils, avoiding a lot of refined sugars and avoiding I would say a American wheat products and flowers I think can be super detrimental to a lot of people regardless if you're celiac or not, especially like enriched wheat flour.

Jared (12m 59s):

So like those three things would be my main points of emphasis along with the number of ingredients. you know, it's like I don't, I really don't eat that many products that are even packaged to begin with just because obviously going for whole food, single ingredient food is always the way to go regardless of what paradigm you subscribe to. So just getting like simplified products, you know that it's like plantains, coconut oil and salt. It's like okay this is like, these are quality ingredients that I can recognize and it's not like a million things I can't pronounce on there.

Jared (13m 38s):

Which I could probably pinpoint what it is, but like, you know it who, what it's actually doing to our bodies I think is unquantifiable.

Brian (13m 49s):

And how have you like, yo, well now you've been back in the states for six years. What have you seen a, have you seen a, a pretty big difference in your health after, you know, le leaving Italy? Were you in Italy? Is that right? Yeah, yeah.

Jared (14m 3s):

I'd say it's definitely harder here. There's a lot more to navigate in terms of, you know, restaurants without a doubt. you know, like I, I don't think it's coincidence that almost all my friends that I speak to when they're traveling or they're eating at restaurants like in a continuous pattern. Like they feel like trash after four days. I think without exception like it's pretty universal here. And then a number of other factors, I think it's just like I was, I wasn't, I don't think as in tune with my body when I was in Italy. So I can't really say I was definitely healthier. I mean I was definitely heavier.

Jared (14m 43s):

I'm sorry I think I've lost probably like 20 pounds. But the pandemic I think brought on a lot of challenges for people, including myself as well. And then I never used social media before. The pandemic, I was always like, that's not healthy. I had no reason to be on it. So I was like, what are you guys doing? you know, and I created this brand and whatnot. So it's definitely, you know, I think most creators would agree that it just leads to all sorts of other, I actually just hired a health coach, just like the accountability and pointing things out and giving me like more structure around things like, you know, in investment in yourself is always, I think gonna pay off.

Jared (15m 29s):

So it's just different challenges with like the, the the, the technology and the social media in general is like very addictive. It's like has aqua, it's designed to be addictive and I think the only way to override it is like abstinence and it's, it's like hard, you know? So I think a lot of us struggle with that. But you know, I'm healthier in certain ways than I was in Italy. Like I'd say I'm overall healthier for sure, but it's like I have to do a lot of things to kind of maintain it. It feels like.

Brian (16m 3s):

Well I noticed on your Instagram you do cook for yourself a lot, right?

Jared (16m 7s):

Yeah, I'd say like 95% of my meals are gonna be homemade meals. It's not like I'm ordering DoorDash ever. It's the only reason I'll ever really go out to eat is just to congregate with friends.

Brian (16m 21s):

Right. And, you know, if on your Instagram you talk about light sleep and food, let's talk a little bit about light and sleep. What are, what are the things, what are sort of those, I don't know those, those big things that people could maybe do to help them with one's sleep And then also, you know with, I know we talk about blue light, I'm, I'm assuming that's what you're talking about and natural sunlight probably is, is important as well.

Jared (16m 49s):

Well I think when you're looking at all these aspects of health have it be nutrition, sleep, light, communication, community. Basically we've just, we've got all this new age technology and whatnot and it's all basically process now. Like the communication is artificial, the light is artificial, the food is artificial. These online communities in many ways are artificial. They'll never be a substitute for actual human interactions. So when you talk about, when you look at people that are talking about biohacking and whatnot, it's basically just a practice to trick your body into thinking it's back in its natural state. And that can be through a lot of different mechanisms.

Jared (17m 30s):

'cause that's like, I'm not saying let's go back and live in the wilderness. we can all hunt our own food and, and have gardens and whatnot that that would maybe lead to optimal health for a lot of people. But we have to find ways to kind of like usher in these ancestral tools into this world that we're living in today. So that's why you see these people, it's not like we like wearing these like blue blocking glasses and whatnot, but it's kind of like a necessary thing. If you are basically staring at light past sundown is just completely tricking your body and you have overhead lights on, which I do right now inexplicably, I could totally turn them off But.

Jared (18m 12s):

it really doesn't make sense because the only time you're even gonna see that in nature is at solar noon, which is only like a few minutes. And then we're basically sitting under that past sundown and it's just not naturally occurring in nature the same way that like a flickering light wouldn't be occurring in nature, but most light bulbs that are in people's houses are gonna have a flicker that they might not even realize. So it's just kind of almost taking a standpoint of like mimicking your indoor environment to replicate what's actually going on in nature at that time. So like turning off your lights, you know, when when the lights on the universe go down, that's pretty much like a good cue for you to kind of turn it down and start getting ready for bed because you're seeing so many people and I think it's multifactorial, but you're seeing so many people are developing insomnia issues and sleep issues and the phones are, I think gonna be the number one reason why.

Jared (19m 14s):

Just like really, I mean I wrecked my hormones I would say like during the pandemic when I got on social media, I was creating content like deeper into the night than I normally would've. I'm like sitting staring at my phone until eleven, eleven thirty and like it really put a number on my digestive system and I didn't put it together at first. I was like, it's the food I gotta get. I gotta like eliminate vegetables and I gotta do this and I gotta, like, I was just going down these rabbit holes almost in denial when it, it really was a circadian health factor for me when I started just moving my bedtime up closer to what I would consider more natural. Like nine, 9:30 PM getting the blue blockers on like putting the phone away before like an hour before bed.

Jared (20m 1s):

It improved drastically and like all of my health markers improved drastically. So it's just like finding these little tools and ways to kind of limit the blue light exposure because it makes you psycho, you know, it's like there if like go to Vegas, right? Like these people that are designing these cities are extremely intelligent. It's all designed to keep you up all night gambling so you, they get more of your money, they know what you're doing, they know what they're doing, right? They're not gonna have like dimm lights and give you red light glasses in there. They're turning on all the lights and, and like bumping music and whatnot. And then like, we're basically recreating Vegas like in our houses every night just staring at screens, which it just, it's intuitively like it's just a biological mismatch, which I think a lot of these things are the food included.

Jared (20m 53s):

So it's like bringing it back to what we know works as human beings. Like we've survived for, you know, people may disagree on how many years we've been here, but like some people would say over 2 million years we've survived doing very specific things. And now you're seeing like pretty rapidly the influx of disease is just like overtaking, especially in this country where it's like not, it's not like subtle, it's like 50% obesity potentially pretty soon autoimmune, a lot of gut and hormonal issues. It's just like happening like really quickly fertility issues. So it's like, let's go back to practicing a lot of these disciplines that we know work.

Jared (21m 34s):

And that's just like getting back to, to the roots of like eating real food, getting in real communities and observing like natural rhythms in terms of light.

Brian (21m 46s):

Yeah, I mean I use blue light black. I say I actually have, these are the daytime ones but I'll put the night ones on like after, after, well we're eight o'clock here in Chicago so I'm getting there and I, I do find it helps sort of wind down. I try not to. And I also pretty much try not to stare at screens and at least an hour before bed. So. and we talk about having like a sleep routine and then is what about like morning routines? Is this something that, that you've implemented or that you work with clients on?

Jared (22m 18s):

For sure. I think afternoon nutrition, that's like the first place to go because I definitely look at like a lot of factors with health. It creates a cascading effect. Like when you start making good decisions or bad decisions, you're more prone to kind of repeat those type. Like if you, if you drink before bedtime, you're gonna get worse sleep, you're gonna have less energy the next day you're gonna have the predilection predilection to make worse nutritional decisions the next day. You're not gonna wanna exercise. Like so all those things are working against you as opposed to if you get good sleep and eat good food, you're way more likely to just kind of like create that momentum. So like looking at your day is almost a fractal of that where you want to get the best possible breakfast and kind of set the tone morning wise is just gonna lead to better decisions throughout the day.

Jared (23m 8s):

So it looks different for everybody just like the diet I think is gonna look different for everybody. But like the number one thing, the first thing I always tell them is to get the sunlight before you are looking at your screen. And I think, you know, we've heard a lot of that and most people just don't know, you know what I mean? It's not, I don't think they've heard it 'cause they're probably not in the same circles that we are in consuming the same content and reading the same material. But most people are like charging their phones in their room and not even having their phone on airplane mode. Which I think through research we've seen just because of the E M F frequencies, it could be disrupting people's sleep with like these little things that aren't registering for people.

Jared (23m 55s):

So having the phone in a different room, like easing into your day, I think it's so important. 'cause basically like your phone and your email specifically if I'm opening my email, that is somebody else's list of all the things that I need to do for them. It's not like things that I need to do for myself. And especially if you're opening up social media, like you're giving away all your control right away in the morning and your brain's in a pretty malleable state, like based off of your brainwave frequencies. Like you're kind of transitioning from this like sleep state into an awake state and you're feeding yourself like potentially like a lot of anxiety and setting off an alarm in your body as opposed to just like slowly easing into the day.

Jared (24m 43s):

Like kind of releasing the right hormones at the right times, like by just observing a more natural pattern. So it's like getting outside. You don't need to have like an hour routine, but I, I'll pretty much not look at my phone off of airplane mode for like an hour or two hours each morning. Like, and when I do look at it, when I finally turn it on and I just feel gross immediately, you know, it's like I would love to turn it off all day, but yeah, it's an option.

Brian (25m 14s):

Yeah. Well now you got this, you know, this big following And, you know, people are expecting your, your your reels. Yeah. What would you say? Like, I, well what I was gonna say was I think this like bumper to bumper approach is a good thing to keep in mind when it comes to eating and when it comes to social media and your phone. Like if you give the yourself these bumpers on each side of the day where you're not being exposed to what, you know, blue light or your phone or eating too close to bed and then necessarily eating right when you get up, right?

Brian (25m 54s):

Like I think that's like a simple way to just like start if people like are like, well where do I start? you know, like, do I have to fast for, you know, no, you don't have to fast for long periods of time, but I think that you should just give yourself a maybe an hour at least wake up and, and and met same hour that you're giving to not consume like a bunch of food is that is you're not gonna consume any social media and anything that has to do with, you know, your business or whatnot. And I think if you do that on the back end and the front end, I think that's a good place to start.

Jared (26m 27s):

A hundred percent agreed. And that those are like the first two steps. Like I'm, I'm actually coaching a group right now of strictly m b a personnel, like coaches, front office people, announcers. And that is the progression. It's like we did nutrition for the first couple weeks, then we shifted into more circadian health morning routine and then next week is like nighttime routine because most people are gonna be working throughout the day. And it's, there's definitely some things you could be doing throughout the day. I, I don't wanna call them multitasking because I think multitasking gets us further from where we want to get to, but just ways to check multiple boxes like in a passive way at once where, you know, have that be you're taking a phone call outside while, while walking, you know, like you're, you're getting steps in, you're getting sunlight, you're potentially helping digestion if you're doing that after meals.

Jared (27m 27s):

Like just taking these little breaks to get outside, like having an Uber drop you off at a destination like 10 minutes before to get those extra steps, get more exposure to that natural light. Like just finding these little creative ways to work it into your day where it's like not overhauling your entire life and you're still on track. And I think people, they look at health in such an intimidating fact that like, I can't do that. I can't, whatever you're selling, like I can't buy it because you're gonna basically like overhaul my entire life. And it's really not like that. I kind of look at it as like, I use the metaphor a lot with a lot of my clients.

Jared (28m 8s):

Like if you were a player development coach in the NBA, like if you were Michael Jordan every summer, like he's gonna master like one or two new skills to bring into the next season. He's not gonna like totally overhaul his game and like add 10 different things. Like maybe he's gonna add a, you know, an outside shot which is only gonna help the rest of his game. It's like if you have an outlet in the wall, you're not gonna plug in like 15 appliances into it. 'cause like they might work for a while but then you're gonna blow a surge. So it's like, let's just give you one or two things to work on, build that foundation and then just keep adding as your routine like kind of grows.

Jared (28m 47s):

And then by the end of these programs you have like your own personal health routine, like tailored to your lifestyle and like what you are specifically going through. So like that's kind of my approach and it's, it ultimately is gonna add to people's lives, you know, like, you know, more clarity, more energy, more productivity.

Brian (29m 10s):

Do you have any stories? Do you, do you have any good stories of of some people who have made some changes?

Jared (29m 15s):

Yeah, for sure. I mean like it's almost impossible to not make positive changes. Like I think if you enroll in anybody's course or anybody's like one-on-one coaching program, it, like I've had people that follow my Instagram for years and they, they don't get anywhere, right? Because it's like you don't pay attention to what you're getting for free and then immediately they make that investment and like within two weeks their entire life has changed and it's like whatever I'm telling them it's pretty, it's like the same stuff that I'm telling you on this podcast, right? Like the program is not that complicated. It's simple. But I think people like you gotta put either an investment towards it energy-wise, time-wise financially to expect the results.

Jared (30m 4s):

It's like if I wanted to be better with my money management, I just hire like a financial advisor, right? Like I'm not gonna go follow a bunch of financial advisors on Instagram and try to figure out where to like what stocks or real estate the, I would be completely lost. But like the best way to get a result obviously is to hire someone who's gotten that same result and they can just expedite you there unless you want to put in, you know, like, which I totally respect if you're like, you have the time and you're like, I'm gonna read all the same books that this guy did, I'm gonna go through the program.

Brian (30m 39s):

Well it just goes to show you hired a coach yourself

Jared (30m 42s):

For sure. 'cause I mean it's a completely different program than whatever I put people through. 'cause a lot of us are gonna have different areas of expertise. Like a lot of people come to me and I'm like, I'm not the right person for you. Like, you know, you're like a female and you have like hormonal issues. I'm like you should go see my friend such and such because we all have like different area. I'm like kind of like, I would say the first line of, I don't wanna say defense, but like offense almost like this is like these are the fundamentals of health, right? This is like how we're kind of intended to live.

Brian (31m 19s):

You're the health goat.

Jared (31m 21s):

Yeah. At the root level. But like myself, I'm like focused on some other things that like I've done all these things I know I can still feel better and like kind of get a little more accountability, improve like some of the phone habits specifically some like detoxification stuff, just kind of like perfect the craft a little bit more and then hopefully learn more things to bring to my clients. But most of my clients, like they don't even want this level of nuance. Like you, I just wanna meet people where they're at and like make it as simple as possible.

Brian (31m 60s):

Are you working with mainly like males would you say? For the most part or,

Jared (32m 6s):

Yeah, I've got one female client, but most of the guys are just, you know, somewhere between like 35 to 45 years old. Like pretty busy successful guys. Whatever line of work they're in have it be M B A or something else. And they've achieved a lot of success in a lot of parts in their lives. Like have it be financially or family-wise. But this area of their life has basically kind of been left behind. Yeah. So it's like catch that up. Like you have the ability to do these things, you know, it's not like you don't have the discipline and whatnot, you just kind of need that education and the accountability combined.

Jared (32m 49s):

And, you know, these are, they have like typical problems, like they just wanna lose 15 pounds, like understand some of these things, build an awareness around it and then like with those things comes like obviously the energy, they just feel better in their bodies, you know, it's not like they have some acute chronic illness that they're coming to me with just like gaining weight and kind of aging a little too rapidly.

Brian (33m 15s):

Yeah, a lot of my clients are around the same age, maybe even older. And I think what I I see happens is they just put, they sort of put their health on the back burner for a long time and and they prioritize other things and then they start to realize, well 15 years just passed And, you know, I'm not looking the way I look. And they become a little self-conscious and they, they lose confidence and it just creates a spiral sort of effect. And yeah, that's, that's the importance of having someone to, you know, mainly to hold them accountable, right?

Jared (33m 50s):

For sure. The accountability is everything. I mean I'm sure you know from the guys that you, that you coach, it's like, because if you put that investment towards something you kind of owe it to yourself just to follow through on it. You're like, I'm gonna listen to this guy, I paid him, he's like the expert and it's just, you're way more likely to follow through on it, actually get the, the right education and stick to it as opposed to these other kind of avenues that I, I think people, I think there is, there is a level and obviously not our clients because they've, they've invested in it, but there's a level of entitlement that they've, people think they should get everything for free because there's so much content now that is free and like in reality they are getting it for free.

Jared (34m 40s):

But like they would have to sift through it and streamline their process. 'cause there's so many creators out there and I think you're getting an information overload where it's like, and people just don't even know what to do. 'cause it's like, you gotta go carnivore, you gotta go keto v it's like there's so many paradigms, right? And, you know, they might be getting fed all of 'em and it's like, where do I go?

Brian (35m 6s):

Maybe gimme a a, a little, maybe one, one story of a, a guy that got some, you know, maybe was going down one road and you sort of shifted him to another place.

Jared (35m 17s):

There was one client in in particular and he was like pretty heavy suffered through depression and just had a terrible relationship with food like psychologically. you know, he had some some childhood things where some abuse things I think. And like he would just use food as a way to kind of cope with whatever's going on in his childhood and like, these things are getting ingrained in us, whatever, whatever traumas you're living through. And like that's kind of his, his defense mechanism for. And I think just through, through the support and eliminating some of these foods that were kind of like creating more of this like spiral form where it's like the sugar and the oils and some of the grains, like getting rid of those and focusing on like more nutritious whole foods.

Jared (36m 11s):

He's lost like at least 30 pounds I think. And like his wife is always like, you're in such a better mood. And like I would never model myself as like, I'm gonna cure your depression or like, this was just one example, but I think people don't always realize that the inputs they're putting into their body through food can have a huge impact on their mental health and whatnot. And like, it just created a lot of momentum and it, it's changed this guy's life and he would probably be like the one that kind of stands above. But there's a lot of people, like even the girl that I'm working with right now, I don't think people realize how much processed food they're eating.

Jared (36m 53s):

And then when you have somebody kind of point it out and at least give them like some, like 90% of the food that we want to be eating, in my opinion, like we don't even need to put a number on it, but should be like the single ingredient whole foods. And that's like pretty simple. It's like anything in the fruit and vegetable section, any of the animal meats, like we don't need to get that complicated with it. Like I'm sure we're pretty well versed where it's like, no, you need grass fed meat and you need, it's like, I don't even bring it up to my clients at the beginning. It's like they have enough things to kind of tackle where it's like, yo, let's just get these in and these out and kind of favor the foods that you like within this group that I'm providing you and you're gonna create it on your own to an extent.

Jared (37m 36s):

So this girl I'd say like was just exhausted waking up in the mornings and like probably gaining weight and whatnot and then like within weeks and she keeps getting better. Like I just heard from her today, like she lost five pounds last week alone and like that these aren't like these things ebb and flow, right? And maybe weight loss isn't even a goal for people, but just favoring like, we don't count calories. It's not that maniacal or obsessive like, you know, once they get the hang of things, like we can start tweaking a little bit more and getting a little more dialed in on things and try to, it's all self experimentation, right?

Jared (38m 16s):

Like anybody who tells you they have like the perfect formula, it's always gonna be individual to your body and like we're gonna have to try different things and and whatnot. But you know, there are certain, I think certain things that are black and white But it, it never is just like that simple. But I think with the right kind of foundation, like you'll get to where you want to get to

Brian (38m 39s):

The health goat, Jared, Ralsky, laying the law down, loving it. What one tip would you give someone if they were looking to get their health back? Is it question I ask? Probably 90% of my guess. you know, let's say they're trying to get their body even their mind back to what it once was 10, 15 years ago. What one tip would you give that individual?

Jared (39m 0s):

I would hire somebody, you know, and I'm not, I'm not even trying to solicit business on this, on this podcast, like by any means, you know, I I just think it gives you the education and the tools to carry forward for the rest. It's a lifelong investment, you know, and I mean I have, I just hired somebody myself, you know, like I hired Mark Sissen by going to the Primal Health Institute. Like these are thousands of dollars that I've poured into. And I think when you do invest in yourself, whatever it is, you, you get that money back. you know, I think people are, are a little bit timid and whatnot and there is this mindset that like we're hanging on to money, but when you spend in a lot of ways it comes back to you.

Jared (39m 46s):

So like that is the best and the quickest way. And I would just hire somebody that I think whatever problem you are having, right? Like specifically like I, I never overcame an autoimmune issue. So if you're coming to me with that, I'll be like, find somebody who's done that specific thing for you. Hire them. And I think you're gonna, most of the time you're gonna get results. So like, sometimes you just, you gotta, you gotta, you know, like I could sit here and be like, just eat real food. But like, I don't even know if people know what that means to be, to be honest. And like I'm sure they've heard it a lot of other times. So it's like taking that leap of faith.

Jared (40m 27s):

Have it be a group course or just the one-on-one. You're gonna elevate your health and you're gonna do it quickly and you're gonna have the skills. 'cause inevitably people are gonna fall on and off the wagon, right? Right. It happens to all of us. But now at least, you know, like, okay, I worked with Grin, I know exactly what I need to do to like get myself feeling good. And then like maybe you get to a more advanced level and you want to learn something new, but like buying courses, which I do have one. Like it's not, I I think most people buy 'em and they don't even go through 'em. I think like, it just like creates it just creating digital dust somewhere on their computer screen. Like, which is different than the guide.

Jared (41m 8s):

The guide. It's like there's no work that you need to do with it. Basically. Like you just get it, put it on your phone, you go to the Grocery store and like you're kind of set. That's why I think people like it 'cause it's not like me educating them and like modules and all this, these things like, at that it's like actually more valuable than like courses that I've sold for like hundreds of dollars, you know? And the guide is like 28 bucks. And I think way more people have gotten way more value out of it than any course.

Brian (41m 37s):

Yeah, I agree. I mean I think nowadays it's like for anything you could hire someone for, you know, like I, I do stuff on social media. I'm like, okay, well Facebook, whatever Facebook ads, like I don't wanna sit here and try figure everyth little thing out. Like I'd rather hire someone to help me or guide me through it or, or you know, same thing with health and, and I always say, if you don't have your health, what do you have? So it's like, it's the best investment you can make. And like you said, find someone that's maybe been through that or that you can relate with. you know, I work with middle aged men for the most part. you know, it sounds like that you're, that's, you know, 35 to 45 maybe is your niche, but Yeah, I I mean I you're you're preaching to the prior, the, the choir here.

Brian (42m 22s):

I, I agree with you. Well this is great. Jared. I've known Jared for a while. Friends with his brother Daniel Ralsky, successful entrepreneur. What's that? Satchel and page is his brother's line. Give him a plug. Yeah. Leather goods. So, but I'll put a link in the show notes for the health goat, your Instagram handle. Is there anywhere else people should find you other than Instagram?

Jared (42m 49s):

That's probably the best place. I mean, I have a website, but all the content, the brand guide, it's like all on my Instagram page. And that would be the best place.

Brian (43m 1s):

And I gotta ask you, you know, you've been in the NBA for a long time, is who's the goat?

Jared (43m 8s):

Obviously Jordan. I mean like, it's not even, it's like almost an offensive question to even ask

Brian (43m 14s):


Jared (43m 14s):

I just think

Brian (43m 15s):

Who's number two then second best.

Jared (43m 20s):

You know, I think like you, you have to put LeBron in the conversation. you know, I I I really don't know like everyone's gonna have their preference, but like, you know, like LeBron James, magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, bill Russell I think would be like the guys that people would describe in putting that, but to me it's just like Jordan, if Jordan's like a 10 out of 10 on the superstar list, like I don't think anybody's even a four for me. Just because like it's the total package, right? It's just like the charisma, the swagger, the ability to come through in the clutch. Like, and if you talk about like, this is another thing about health, like I'm glad you kind of brought this up because different, like there's a lot of this that's unquantifiable because like he pretty much did nothing that I've talked about on this show.

Jared (44m 9s):

Like, this guy was up gambling at night, drinking doesn't like go to bed at a normal hour.

Brian (44m 16s):

Jordan, you're talking about Jordan? Yeah, like

Jared (44m 18s):

Drinking Gatorade and eating Wheaties and McDonald's. Like I know that he, he, he wasn't like maniacal about these things with health. Like he's smoking cigars and like the energy, like he's just built, he's just, some of the people are just built different, they can just get away with things. Oh

Brian (44m 33s):

Yeah. Like Dennis Rodman, that guy used to go out all night, the stories behind him, you know? Right. Go out all night, show up, put up a, you know, 20 rebounds,

Jared (44m 44s):

You know, insane. Like, and he's drinking kamikazes, like, and not even sleeping the night before. Like if I do that, I'm like bedridden like three days. you know, So, we don't, we don't, a lot of these are just theories and like, these are just ways to give people like the best chance, you know? And, and at the end of the day, like the, the only study that really, because you see a lot of people that are kind of like, they use like science to signal their authorities in, in this. Yeah. Like I'd rather hear more about the people that you've helped and like how you've helped them as like testimonials as a port post to studies because you know, it again, like different things can work for different people.

Jared (45m 28s):

We have a good idea, but I think we just need more, more compliance and like less information at this point. We have education. It's like

Brian (45m 39s):

I love that. Yeah. I, I agree. I, I completely agree. I mean, 'cause you could find a study for anything and, and make it and make a reasoning for why it makes sense for you and, but Right. It comes down to compliance and being consistent and, and just taking small daily actions.

Jared (45m 58s):

For sure. And like with the studies, it's like as if the questions we ask in the study doesn't influence the answers that were given. I mean, there's like something else going on when you can kind of account for the observer effect. And it's like some of these studies, they're not even coherent and like, I don't, it's just not my thing. you know what I mean? Like, I haven't been well versed in like how to read the science. Like everything in like systems program, it's like science-based combined with like this anthropological like view on health. Right. So yeah, we kind of, I think just get out of the weeds and just make everything as simple as possible, you know?

Jared (46m 42s):

Yeah. For people is the best approach.

Brian (46m 46s):

All, right. Jared, I appreciate you coming on, you finally made it on the podcast.

Jared (46m 51s):

Yeah. I feel like I'm in the hall of Fame of Health, so yeah, this was awesome. I loved it. So I thoroughly appreciate you having me on.

Brian (46m 59s):

Yeah. I appreciate you coming on and I'll put a, a link in the show notes, the health goat on Instagram, look out for his reels. They're really informative, they're funny and it's worth a listen, so or, and a watch. So thanks again for coming on Jared.

Jared (47m 16s):

Thank you.

Brian (47m 19s):

Thanks for listening to the GETLEAN e Clean podcast. I understand there are millions of other Podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine and I appreciate that. Check out the show notes at Brian Gryn dot com for everything that was mentioned In, this episode. Feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member that's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again and have a great day.

Jared Ralsky

Jared has worked with 4 different NBA franchises and some of the world’s best athletes, and executives.

He works 1-on-1 with adults, but his greatest passion is the health of our children. He sees this generation of kids reliving our same patterns, and still without the wisdom we were deprived of growing up.

His mission is to give all his clients the tools to feel their absolute best, navigate health on their own for a lifetime, and to then pass it all on to their children.


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