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Interview with Dr. Mike Van Thielan: Unleash Your Superpower, Optimize Focus and Implement Power Routines!

November 6, 2023 in Podcast


This week I interviewed holistic physician, biohacking expert, and best selling author Dr. Mike Van Thielan!

In December of 2023, Dr. Mike published The IZOD Method™- Unleash Your Superpower in which he discusses how to find purpose in life, optimize focus and productivity, free-up valuable time, and live stress-free.

In this episode, we discuss this along with:

  • Dr. Mike's Power Routines
  • How to Mitigate the Effects of EMF
  • Getting in the Zone
  • Gaining Focus with Nootropics
and his one tip to get your body back to what it once was!

Brian (0s):

Coming up on the GET, LEAN Eat, Clean Podcast.

Mike (3s):

The IZOD Method basically in the Zone on demand is a skill that I teach people for them to be in the Zone. On demand, meaning getting into the Zone, no distractions focus, getting the stuff done and being the best you can be. Because most people think being in the Zone is just for athletes, and that's wrong. It's just a skill that can be, that you can learn. So you can be in control and you can, you know, crush your sale goals, kill the presentation on stage, go from a millionaire to being a billionaire, going from just falling short of your dreams and goals to actually realizing those. And that's usually kind of the difference, you know, between failure and success.

Brian (46s):

Hello and welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. I'm Brian Gryn and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was, five, 10, even 15 years ago. Each week I'll give you an in depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long term sustainable results. This week I interviewed holistic physician, biohacking expert and bestselling author, Dr. Mike Van, Thien In December of 2023. Dr. Mike published The IZOD, Method Unleash, Your Superpower in which he discusses how to find purpose in life, optimize focus, productivity, free up, valuable time, and live stress fee.

Brian (1m 26s):

we discuss this along with Dr. Mike's power Routines, how to Mitigate the effects of EMF Getting in the Zone Gaining focus with the tropics, and is one tip to get your body back to what it once was. Really enjoyed my Interview with Dr, Mike. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All, right Welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. My name is Brian Gryn, and I have Dr. Mike Van Thielan on Welcome to the show.

Mike (1m 53s):

Well, thanks for having me, Brian.

Brian (1m 55s):

Thanks for coming on, and glad to have you on the podcast, holistic nutrition, health and wellness expert. You, you're also an author and speaker world record holder in swimming. Maybe let's go back to, to the roots, what got you into health and biohacking and looks like maybe you started out in swimming and moved from there.

Mike (2m 15s):

That's right. Your listeners probably can pick up an accent. I'm originally from Belgium. I grew up in a single family home. My mom worked hard to provide for my brother and I, and I figured I was pretty competitive. Competitive as a youngster because in elementary school I was on the soccer team, basketball team, the fastest runner of this class. But I lost in swimming because one of my better friends was part of the local swim team. And so I don't really recall this actively, but my mom always tells me that I was so pissed. I came home and after a while my decision was to join the local swim team myself. And so that was, you know, when I found my passion for swimming.

Mike (2m 58s):

And today I still joke that it's actually my worst sport. But yeah, I was apparently very competitive and still I really don't like to like to lose, but I never lose either win or I learned. Right, so that's a mindset right there. Yeah, but went to school over there, university of Brussels, it's physical education because I wasn't into sports, but what are you gonna do with that ultimately? So then I decided to add physical therapy to, it started traveling with Belgium Olympic swimmers in preparation for the Olympic Games in Atlanta in 96. And after that, they actually were short of therapist in the United States. So I was recruited. I saved $400, pack my backpack, put my jeans on, and came live. The American dream wasn't that easy in the beginning because of course I didn't have any mentors or coaches, didn't have any credit score.

Mike (3m 44s):

I got knocked down a lot of times and that's how my motto quickly became exactly what I just said. I never lose a win or I learn, I found out there's more to health then physical therapy. So I went back to school, to the Florida College of Integrative Medicine, got my doctor in Oriental medicine license in acupuncture, homeopathy, Chinese herbal medicine, you name it. But after almost another thousand patients, I got a little frustrated because these quote unquote alternative therapies may be less invasive and harmful than conventional medicine, meaning drugs, injections, and surgeries. But I didn't get the long lasting results I was hoping for either with my patients. So I decided I needed to do something else to go back to basics.

Mike (4m 27s):

And that's when I decided to get my PhD in holistic nutrition and also look at mother nature for the truths. And so I started looking at animals in the wild to see what they were doing to stay healthy. And since then I really got a lot of confidence in helping anybody with any medical condition to regain control of their health R people to optimize their health. R today, as I'm regarding an expert, biohackers objectively reversed their biological age. And so since then I've been doing a lot of speaking, doing some books, been ACEO of several companies, including Regenerative medicine company where we did stem cell based therapies on NFL players, heavyweight champion boxers, entrepreneurs and et cetera.

Mike (5m 10s):

And then Covid came. So then I had a little bit of time to reflect inside myself and see what I wanted to do. So today I'm doing what I love to do is really help people, not just with their help, but also with their business and their goals and their dreams in life. So I'm a mentor coach and I still like to do the speaking.

Brian (5m 28s):

And I wanna just go back to the point, I'm curious, you mentioned you observed animals to learn about what we can learn in the wild. What, what was that like?

Mike (5m 39s):

Well, I still tell people to do it when they get, when their doctor tells 'em something or to get a second opinion. I said, also, you should common sense and look what animals in the wild to, and so we can learn a lot from it. you know, just a few examples, you know, how many times are animals in the wild to eat? you know, the answer is usually one. And So, we are used to eat 3, 4, 5 times a a day. And So, we only supposed to consume one meal a day. And we can go into discussion about that. But so did Jesus, the Greeks, the Romans, and all animals in the wild, or a digestive system biologically is only designed to digest one meal a day and et cetera. we can also ask what animals in the wild drink, well, as soon as they come from the mother's breast, they all drink water.

Mike (6m 19s):

They don't drink milk from another species. They don't drink sodas or tea or energy drinks. What they do after a meal, well, usually they go rest in the shed and digest a meal. They don't go back to work. Do they wear clothes, head sunglasses, shoes, know they're grounding when they deliver a a young, the mother instinctively eats the placenta. Why is that? Well, it contains the stem cells and the bioactive molecules to repair the damaged tissue. And we can go on and on and on, but so many times mother Nature does have some answers.

Brian (6m 53s):

Hmm, interesting. And what, like what are your, I mean you, you call yourself technically like a biohacker. What are some of the things that you're utilizing nowadays? And like you mentioned, you, you got into China, Chinese herbal medicine, and And, you know, some of these non-invasive procedures and you, you were sort of disappointed to some degree. And then what, what, what do you like, what are the methods that you're using now that you find are most effective?

Mike (7m 20s):

Well, you gotta look at the body as a whole. And we're still, even though we're individuals, we still have the same biology and same physiology, right? So I look at the body as a whole. And so I believe that there's only one cause of all disease. It's called toxemia. Toxemia literally means toxins in the blood, right? But when we have a little bit closer look, what it really means is as, as part of daily living, normal living metabolism, we obviously produce waste and toxins, but in a healthy organism, those toxins are eliminated by the kidneys, the bowels, the skin, et cetera. So no harm is done, but today most of us are in a toic state, which means is we ingest and are exposed to far more toxins than the body possibly can eliminate, right?

Mike (8m 2s):

Can't keep up with the elimination of it. So now there's an accumulation of toxins, and those toxins do two things in the body that cause free radical damage, which is oxidative stress. And also put us in a state of constant, you know, putting out the fires. And in conventional medicine we call that systemic inflammation. And even incon, conventional medicine, they now agree that systemic inflammation is responsible for over 90% of all disease. So to me, toxemia is the cause of all disease. So in order to avoid disease and stay healthy, we need to keep toxemia in check. So theoretically it's pretty easy because what we need to do is we need to lower the intake and exposure to toxins from what manmade foods, manmade drinks over the counter and pharmaceutical drugs, toxic household or household products, cosmetic products.

Mike (8m 47s):

And obviously today electromagnetic frequencies and radiation from all our wireless devices, cell phones, and the list goes on, So, we need to Mitigate and reduce that as much as possible while simultaneously increasing the intake of nutrients that would fight free radical damage, repair our DNA, and fight that systemic inflammation. And if we can get into that balance, then we can avoid any and all disease. So from that perspective, whether, whether I have a patient coming with a cancer, Parkinson's, or just the flu, it's always gonna be almost the same approach of, you know, obviously we customize the approach, but it's about keeping the toxemia in check and putting the, the body back into balance because only the body can heal itself.

Mike (9m 28s):

I don't believe drugs can cure or therapies or surgeries or injections or even supplements or drugs or anything I do, nothing really cures only the body can heal itself, but we need to put, or our attempt is to put the body in the correct position or condition so that it can heal itself.

Brian (9m 51s):

Well said. And, what would you say, you know, you talk about environmental factors that we run into every day. I mean just, you know, obviously yes, breathing exhaust or like the EMFs and things like that. What I mean things that obviously we can't avoid, but what, what can we do to maybe counteract those, those everyday environmental factors that are harming our health?

Mike (10m 12s):

Yeah, there's many things that we can do, right? When we talk about our cleaning products, households, product cosmetic products, we can look for the safer alternatives, right? When it comes to electromagnetic radiance radiation, this was a bestselling book last year on Amazon, the Invisible Threat. So, or in that book, I give people a hundred steps and strategies that don't have to cost any money to really Mitigate those effects of that radiation. you know, first of all, we gotta start in the house or in the office and do whatever we can to Mitigate it. So, you know, I, I recommend you buy an EMF meter on my website. I have all the resources that people can utilize for free to that

Brian (10m 55s):

One, you

Mike (10m 55s):

Know, to get through that. Oh, there you go, right? Perfect. Yes. So they're simple ones for the non-technical people. And then there's more complicated ones for those who like the tech, but an eef meter will tell you right where the electromagnetic fields are. But you know, just to give a, a simple things, you wanna check all your outlets and those that have dirty electricity, you can put filters on, you wanna start plugging in all your computer leptos and devices, again, with a grounding. And it could be a grounded and shielded cord. we can buy a Faraday back for our routers. So it still gives you the signals for your wireless devices, but at the same time, it won't emit the radiation.

Mike (11m 36s):

we can go as far as, again, measuring those hotspots in our house and make sure we don't put our bed there or our dining table there and voto places we can go outside of the house, And, you know, be aware of the power lines in and out of the ground, the smart meters on our house, and do all kinds of little things to kinda Mitigate those harmful effects. And then we can also shield ourselves. For example, I've been sleeping almost four years on what we call an anti-aging bed cover. It's a cover that goes over the bed, I ground it. And so even with that meter, because I got two of those two, I can measure the voltage or milli voltage on my body, the radiation, the, the, the excess energy.

Mike (12m 16s):

And then as soon as I'm in contact with the bed cover, obviously now I'm grounded, meaning one with mother Earth, all the excess energy goes straight into the ground. So it's a way of protecting yourself too. And then we got hundreds of tips on these types of devices on how to reduce the radiation from these. Obviously you don't want to have 'em on your, on your ear, you want to always have them on speakerphone. Another one is, if you have only one or two bars, don't call, don't speak. Because the less the signal, the more radiation is sent to your phone, right? The same when traveling. If you want to call or take a call, just stand still, don't walk or stop driving or wait till you stop driving because otherwise the signal needs to continue to search for you because you're moving.

Mike (13m 2s):

And at night don't put it on your nightstand and charge it there. So hundreds and hundreds of things that we can do, not to a hundred percent avoid it, that's impossible unless we move to a pristine area in the Amazon Forest, but to at least to Mitigate as much as we can to get the toxic load down.

Brian (13m 21s):

And I'm curious, and we always talk about Routines in on this podcast, what, what are your Routines that you've implemented into your life? Morning or evening? Evening,

Mike (13m 30s):

Yeah, I got four power Routines because I believe in order to really be successful, achieve your goals, et cetera, and, and be focused and productive on what you're working on, you need to script your life, your agenda, your calendar. And so the easiest way to do is, is find the Routines that will make up that day. So yes, I have a morning routine, a power routine, a biohacking routine, and a dream routine. And so I think for most people that I help, those Routines usually contain the same elements, but they're a little bit different person to person because for example, for some people to achieve a deep delta sleep, visualization may work for one person, breath work, work may work for another person, a brain tap or a sleep aid may work for the third person.

Mike (14m 14s):

So even though we wanna achieve the same goals, some people respond better to one technology or strategy than another. So my job with my mentees is, is yes, creating their power Routines, but customizing them So, they can count on those Routines each and every day to get those results.

Brian (14m 32s):

Well, why don't you give us an example? Like what's your typical morning routine?

Mike (14m 37s):

Yeah, my morning routine is obviously getting up, but before I get up, you know, I, I just, well the first thing I do is I drink some hydrogen water, then I usually do a brain dump, empty my mind. And some of the things that I do on the brain dump will end up in my calendar and the other things are just gone. Then there's some type of exercise or movement or breath work that I Implement whether I stay home or whether I go to the swimming pool, I Implement some movement or some work. And of course I've skipped breakfast because breakfast is the least important day of the meal, but I take juices with me. Or if I'm home, I don't have to take 'em with me. But I will consume some juices that I make myself.

Mike (15m 20s):

And again, my calendar is all made from the day before. So my morning routine is actually pretty simple.

Brian (15m 26s):

And then when you talk about a power routine, what do you mean when you talk about a power routine?

Mike (15m 31s):

Well, the, the morning routine is a power routine. Okay. The evening routine is a power routine. So there are power Routines. The reason they power Routines is because once we fine tune them, we can count on them each and every time to give the same desired results for each of the individuals.

Brian (15m 44s):

Got it. Okay. Yeah. Excellent. What type of things do you recommend for people who wanna wind down? You talk about breath work, do you like obviously some type of maybe meditation, I'm assuming you probably have like blue light blocking glasses and things like that. Yeah, yeah.

Mike (16m 1s):

Well the brain depth is also technology that I have. So it has the light going into your eyes and your ears and you can choose a program to focus or to get into a deep delta sleep or whatever it is. There's thousands of programs that you can, it's binal beats or it's a voice that gets you in a certain brain wave based on what you want to achieve. So you choose one of those programs and you can put it on before you go to bed. That would be a technology that you could use. But part of my power routine is obviously at 8 30, 9 o'clock, I don't take any calls anymore. I don't do any, you know, meetings anymore. You would make probably poor decisions anyway. That's the time to wind down, that's the time you wanna spend time with your loved ones.

Mike (16m 45s):

Once you turn all that off and that's when the real routine starts, obviously that's when, you know, that's when I do, when I go to bed, I do visualization, which takes about two minutes because I visualize the next 24 hours and I'm gonna make the right decisions throughout that 24 hours because I felt that I'm one of those guys that go to bed. If I'm not really tired, my mind keeps going and I'm trying to figure out what to do tomorrow, And, what to say tomorrow and who to contact tomorrow. But that's why I had to script my agenda and be clear on my agenda. And then before I go to bed, I visualize the next 24 hours. So that prevents me from thinking about tomorrow, worrying about tomorrow, about making decisions tomorrow.

Mike (17m 28s):

So visualization is part of that And now, many times I do the brain tap or some breath work and then I'll, we'll be able to get into a deep delta sleep.

Brian (17m 37s):

Got it. And, and I noticed on your website you talk about something called the IZOD Method. Yes. Like unleashing your Superpower. What, what, what is that all about?

Mike (17m 44s):

Yeah, that's my latest book, the IZOD Method, it's called in the Zone on Demand. And so my first seven books is usually all health related. And this one goes a little bit broader because during the pandemic, a colleague of mine asked me to help out with doing pre-screening calls for medical marijuana, even in the state of Florida. And I said, sure, I really, not much else to do. I was trying to figure things out, but I ended up talking to hundreds of people per week. And they all had anxiety, depression, P-T-S-D-A-D-H-D, et cetera. And yes, there's therapies and smart drugs out there, but I found a common denominator on why they were in those positions. And it's, they didn't have a purpose in life. They were just going with the emotions, going to work, being bombarded with extra work battle balls, going home, trying to rush the kids to soccer, dealing with the significant other and never being able to catch up even financially wondering what tomorrow, next week, next month and next year brings.

Mike (18m 35s):

And so if I put myself in that position, obviously I would be worried, I will be fearful, I would be uncertain, which translates in one anxiety, depression and those steps of things. So I felt that there was an underlying cause. And so in this book I'm really talking about not just about health and upgrading the body and the mind and biohacking, but really making sure the foundations are there. If we wanna achieve our goals and dreams, we need a purpose. And so I work a lot of people with finding their purpose, or some people know their purpose, but they barely tapping into it. So I help 'em Unleash their purpose, find that passion. And once we have that, we gotta regain control of our life, which is really scripting our life, our agenda, our calendar, setting those goals, setting the plans, surrounding ourselves with the right people.

Mike (19m 17s):

Because the more control we have and the more clarity we have, the less stress we have. So many times those mental issues and conditions just disappear without drugs because we have a purpose and we are in control of our own life. And so all of that disappears. And so the Isot Method basically in the Zone on demand is a skill that I teach people for them to be in the Zone on demand, meaning getting into the Zone, no distractions, focus, getting the stuff done and being the best you can be. Because most people think being in the Zone is just for athletes, and that's wrong. It's just a skill that can be, that you can learn. So you can be in control and you can, you know, crush your sale goals, kill the presentation on stage, go from a millionaire to being a billionaire, going from just falling short of your dreams and goals to actually realizing those.

Mike (20m 9s):

And that's usually kind of the difference, you know, between failure and success.

Brian (20m 16s):

And I noticed in the book you talk about the nootropic support, something that keeps coming up a little bit more as as just being in this health space. What, what are some of the ways that individuals can use the tropics to help them?

Mike (20m 28s):

Yeah, and that's, that's good. It came, it came about the same time because remember I'm talking to all these people that are on Ritalin and Wellbutrin and all of them, all Adderall. And so I usually don't waste my time looking at medications. But I kind of was interested and looked at all the, you know, labels and inserts and just, for example, adderol, increased heart rate, increased risk for heart disease, psychosis, seizures. And the list goes on. Something I couldn't recommend, but I heard from those people. It, it does help them focus on being productive. So those are called smart drugs now. So my job is then to find natural alternatives. They don't have jittery effects, they don't have adversary reactions, they don't have any long-term effects are, you know, changes in personality.

Mike (21m 9s):

And that's what's called nootropics, which are basically natural supplements that help with memory and focus and those types of things. And there's many on the markets, you know, Ayurvedic ones, Chinese herbal ones like ginkgo loba and things like that. But I stumbled upon one that's called focus plus by a company called Rogen Z Health and Focus Plus they have a patented ingredient called bio citrus, which is basically a terpene from a specific type of citrus food, actually a blood orange from the southeast region of Asia. And a 30 milligrams of or higher bio citrus is able to cross the blood-brain barrier. Now why is that important?

Mike (21m 49s):

'cause that means it just works pretty quickly in about 30 minutes. Most supplements need to build up in your system for a few weeks before you know they have a positive effect on now. So this works pretty quickly. And then the company, I kind of help them a little bit with adding other synergistic ingredients. So, we added three more ingredients, tyrosine, which is known as amino acid that helps with memory and focus. Feil alanine, which is a neuro agent that also helps with photographic memory focus, those types of things. And then probably the most important one, I think Feil, not, not IL and Linda was the previous one, phosphatidyl, which obviously we find in our FET cells in our body, but also in our brain, phosphatidyl has been shown scientifically to stimulate NGF nerve growth factor, which means it stimulates the formation of new brain cells, brain cells, neuro connectivity, neurotransmitters, et cetera.

Mike (22m 38s):

So what we found is that the combination of those four are able to really get people into the Zone, optimize the five intelligence hormones and, and get the work done. So my experience was that I got all of people of these drugs, A, DHD and stuff, drugs and of Ritalin using a more natural product that doesn't have the side effects. I think looking backwards or looking at it now, it may not be as strong as at all But. It was strong enough for all of people to make that transition without having the side effects. So I help people with those problems. But also top athletes now are taking it because they just want a little extra edge, that little extra focus that they need in their game to perform.

Mike (23m 23s):

Or people that again, you know, take it just before going on stage and talking to a thousand people or going to a sales meeting because they need to close the deal, whatever it is, it may help you with the extra focus and for some people it does wonders. For others it doesn't work at all. So I'll tell people just try it and so your listeners can get a free sample@trysmartbill.com, get a free sample if it works for your grade. If not grade two, it doesn't do any harm.

Brian (23m 49s):

Okay, very cool. And I noticed you, you did some work with, was it, did you work with Evander Holyfield? I noticed he was on your website.

Mike (23m 58s):

Yeah, I met him. I met him and we did some work with him and really big Daddy Bo and him, or actually still hanging out in the same gym in the Fort Lauderdale area, Hollywood area over there just north of Miami. And so I did actually treat big Daddy Bo, we did stem cell injections for his shoulder and his knee and shockwave therapy because he hardly could walk, certainly couldn't get in and out of a car by himself. He actually needed help and So, we helped him and his shoulder and his knees are perfect. We visited him Y Evander Ho OFin was there, So, we had a, we had a good time hanging around and talking about staying healthy even though big daddy boys kinda outta ship and gained some weight.

Mike (24m 40s):

Y Evander ho OFin man, he stays sharp, he's juicing, he's staying healthy, he still works out. So both, both ex world heavy champions and yet their health path takes a different way. It's all about, you know, putting in those Routines that keep you healthy are put you on a path of ill health. And that's a choice we all have to make.

Brian (25m 3s):

Yeah, no doubt. And what, what, what about Routines around food and then also fitness

Mike (25m 14s):

Routines around food and fitness?

Brian (25m 16s):

Yeah. So what, what do you, you know, I know everyone's a little bit different, but what do you prescribe to as far as for yourself as far as eating on a daily basis? I know you mentioned it sounds like you're doing one meal a day. Yeah. And then as far as you know, your training routine, as far as do, do you continue swim swimming? I'm assuming, so

Mike (25m 34s):

Let's talk about the food and then the, the, the exercise. So yes, I believe we only need one meal a day. It's just the propaganda of the breakfast and selling all those things. But again, if we look at animals in the wild, or even the Greeks, the Romans, they only eat one meal a day. If we look at our biology physiology, we only designed to do that. But I do juice during the day. I drink at least two juices, which I make myself, which gives me all the nutrients I need on a daily basis. We talked about fighting free radicals and systemic inflammation and DNA repair. I take high quality supplements with that too. And then I have my meal and yes, I'm not hungry because I'm giving my body all the nutrients that it needs. So I don't get that hunger signal, right?

Mike (26m 15s):

You can eat five times a day, but if there are empty meals, empty calories, if they're burgers and bad food, as soon as it's digested, your body's gonna send out a hunger signal. 'cause it still didn't get that omega three still didn't get the vitamin C. It's gonna keep on asking for it, right? So it's the quality of what you eat, And what you take to your body that will, you know, give you that feeling of satiety or hunger or not. So, so yes, lots of juicing, high quality supplements. And then a meal a day.

Brian (26m 41s):

What do you juice? What do you typically juice with?

Mike (26m 45s):

Well, I, I make different juices, but the one I made yesterday is just an example. So everything's organic, but cucumbers, celery, green, apples, lemon with the peel or the zest, ginger roots and pineapples. So that was my juice yesterday. And sometimes I do the red beets and carrot combination, you know, those types of things. But getting a lot of concentrated nutrients, antioxidants, anti-inflammatory things into your body. If you then add some high quality supplements to it, you're really giving your body everything it needs to repair, renew, and replenish itself. And that's the key right there.

Brian (27m 25s):

And where do you typically get your protein from?

Mike (27m 28s):

Protein is plant-based protein. So yes, avocados and nuts and all the kind of good stuff. And if I'm working out at a higher level, I will supplement with a high quality green protein. So again, the protein that I would supplement with would come from, you know, pea and a hemp and all those types of things, but not from animal protein.

Brian (27m 49s):

Okay. And then what, what around fitness do you prescribe for yourself? And

Mike (27m 55s):

Yes, it depends. I'm going to the gym twice a week now and I try to move a lot. I injured my shoulder beginning of the year. I hope it's gonna be a hundred percent soon so I can start swimming again. But when it comes to exercise and fitness, I think those two words are maybe not the best words to use when we talk about health. and we talk about health, we need to talk about movements. We are a plumbing system. We have a cardiovascular system, lymphatic system, which is part of the immune system, et cetera. So, we need to move because we cannot, we need to avoid stagnation, we need to avoid things clogging up So, we need to hydrate plenty of water, lots of clean water, and we need to move.

Mike (28m 36s):

So when it comes to health, we need to walk, we need to, we can't sit still all day long, right? Because I know athletes even try athletes that work out four hours a day, but then the rest of the day they're behind a desk 'cause they're, for example, an insurance agent or whatever may be that's not healthy, even though they worked out for our days. So the, we need to get, you know, change our mindset from exercise, going to the gym or playing organized sports, that's great, but we need to move all day long. And that's really how it's movement. And if you, if you are in a situation where you can't, maybe you gotta consider technology such as a vibration plate or you know, a power plate or a mini trampoline that you can at least at work have some cellular movement even though you may not be running or walking.

Mike (29m 23s):

So, you know, that's my take on movement. So movement's very important. Hydration and movements are the key to avoid stagnation in any system in your body. And then, yes, when it comes to nutrition, you know, lots of essential nutrients, I get 'em to juicing and supplements. I obviously do intermittent fast. As I said, I do not have breakfast, so I have an herb. My meal is early in the evening, so it has plenty of time for five hours to digest completely because otherwise I won't get into a deep delta sleep to regenerate and repair and replenish because digestion would still be going on. So, we have to eat early in the evening.

Mike (30m 3s):

And then in the morning I wake up and I'm energized. So why would I eat breakfast? It would be make sligo again. My digestive system will take my, all my energy. I got all the nutrients from yesterday evening, I'm ready to go. And I tell people sometimes to think about the fact that when you work eight to five and you go for a big lunch, you gotta go back to work. How do you feel? Right? Sluggish. Because now your energy goes that to digestion, you're gonna have a very poor, productive afternoon. And it's the same in the morning. We don't need that breakfast if we give our body all the nutrients in the evening and we, we got our juices and our supplements, et cetera, and we had a deep delta sleep. Don't rob your body of the energy for another digestive effort.

Brian (30m 45s):

Gotcha. And that one meal that you're having, it sounds like you're vegetarian, vegan, or

Mike (30m 51s):

I don't, I never classify myself. And I think, I think it's probably a good tip for everybody because then you're bound to some rules and you feel like you're missing out. I don't miss out. If I go on a Saturday to a restaurant with my friends and I feel like, I feel like, guess what? I eat one during the week. I don't cook meat at the house, try to be healthy, but I, I classify myself as aware. That doesn't mean I don't have a taco on Tuesday or a pizza and a beer with friends on a Sunday. I do. Because I think the big mistake is that people think in order to be really healthy, you need to be a health freak. And it's totally wrong in my opinion because you can't keep up with that. And if you look at health freaks, they don't look healthy anyways, right?

Mike (31m 32s):

So what it is, it's about, it's about this, right? We have 50 to a hundred trillion cells. There's numbers in between, we really don't know how many, but it's an amount that our, our mind can't grasp is more than the stars in the entire galaxy. Now each one of those cells performs a few million chemical reactions per second. So if you wanna know how many chemical reactions there occur in your body at any given second, you have to multiply 75 trillion with a few million. So next time somebody asks you if you're busy, you say yes, extremely, right? But the point of this story is to tell you that each one of those cells have a hundred thousand receptors on the outer membrane and inside the cell we have the RNA or the messenger that tells those receptors at any given moment, Hey, we need vitamin C, oh, I need omega three.

Mike (32m 20s):

And those receptors stick out their neck in the extracellular, extracellular and vitamin to look for at vitamin C. But what if it vitamin C's not available, then the cell is forced to settle for less compatible, less potent nutrients. And that's how we have an original and we make a copy of it and then a copy of a copy. And so if we do that with a piece of paper, we can't read it anymore. It's the same on a cellular level. If we get less compatible potent nutrients, then we get degeneration and mutation, which is disease and cancer, right? So the model of the story basically is, is that as long as we give our body all the essential nutrients that it needs on a daily basis, then the cells can do what? Get those nutrients to replenish, repair, replace themselves, and avoid any disease.

Mike (33m 4s):

And that's how we stand up and health. So if we, if we give our body everything that it needs on a daily basis, it's okay to have that taco on it Tuesday or pizza on a cell that they, or those two beers, it's certainly okay. The problem is that 99% of us, you know, live on the SAD, the standard American diet So, they don't get the essential nutrients ever in their body. And therefore the cells are forced to settle for less and that's when the problem starts. So you don't have to be a health freak. You can, you know, exceptions and enjoy life and enjoy good tasting food, but you gotta make sure you give all these essential nutrients to your body. And that's why I juice a lot and that's why I take high quality supplements also.

Brian (33m 47s):

And do you do any like type of testing just to see where you're at, maybe like blood work and things like that?

Mike (33m 53s):

I do that with people that are in more of an ill health disease state, but we also, and sometimes I do it for myself, but I'm aware that whatever scales or whatever norms or values conventional medicine uses, most of those were developed for during World War II to ranch in our soldiers. And so when you fall into normal, what that means is that means you're barely alive. And so that's a bare minimum. So when we talk about nutrients like B 12 and those types and things, hopefully they don't fall within normal. Hopefully you are way ahead of that, which is optimal ranges. And your doctor will say, oh, you're taking too much B 12, take a little bit less. No, don't, no, you wanna be in optimal ranges. So we gotta be aware what those ranges mean.

Mike (34m 35s):

They mean you're barely alive. So that's really not what we are working with. We want optimal health. We don't want to just be normal and barely alive. So yes, we can do blood tests to see if there are deficiencies and many times things that are in that normal ways to meet or the deficiency if we wanna be in optimal health.

Brian (34m 53s):

Yeah, I totally agree. I mean the standard range that you're getting lab work on is just done for just individual, sort of the everyday people that maybe aren't looking to Optimize. Yes, per se. Awesome. Dr. Mike, we're, so you're in Florida, do you have a clinic in Florida or do you just work virtually?

Mike (35m 10s):

No, I use, I, I work virtually now and, or, or with local people. But yeah, I do mentorship programs. I do talking, I'm working on online courses as we speak. So yes, we used to have brick and mortar, but with Covid we shut it down and I think, you know, within, within an age we can reach out much further if we do have a virtual presence. So that's what I'm continue to work on.

Brian (35m 33s):

Yeah, and your newest book is the one we just talked about, right?

Mike (35m 38s):

Yes. That's

Brian (35m 39s):

The IZOD Method.

Mike (35m 40s):

The IZOD Method, yes.

Brian (35m 42s):

Very cool. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see that and and their, your website, is it m vt online.com? Is that the best place?

Mike (35m 49s):

Yes, it's mvt online.com or easier to remember. Biohacking unlimited.com, same website, Alma books are there. Mentorship programs, there's different programs. You can check it out. You can schedule a 20 minute free zoom call with me. It doesn't cost anything. Just to see if there's something I can help you with. There's a free newsletter. You can subscribe to my speaking bio. Is there anything you may wanna know about me? You can start@biohackingunlimited.com.

Brian (36m 16s):

Well, great stuff Dr. Mike, I'll I'll ask you one more question before we turn off this. Sure. And you probably might've even answered it, but if you were gonna give a tip to one, if you were gonna give one tip to an individual to help to get their body and mind back to what it once was, let's say 15 years ago, what one tip would you give that individual?

Mike (36m 33s):

Well, yeah, if you wanna reverse your biological age, and, and, and again, I believe today that the average person doesn't have to be the elite without putting in too much money at all. 'cause in my book I talk about the seven foundational biox without buying technology that every person can become a hundred years old, but able to do the things a 40 year old does. In other words, traveling, hiking, whatever it is that you like to do. And that's increasing your lifespan. And I believe today, if you imple Implement these strategies, that that's actually a reality you can achieve that, you know, anybody can. And so when, when people are struggling or wanna, you know, step it up and, and get in optimal health or even biohack, you know, just really get the advice of a, a local functional medicine doctor to push you in the right direction.

Mike (37m 22s):

Or coaches like you and I that can steer you in the right direction and make you accountable and start implementing very simple things. You don't have to buy a hyperbaric chamber. You don't have to buy a $20,000 high vibration platform or some kind of a, you know, a photodynamic machine with all kinds of lights and bells and whistles. Some of those things work, but they're not necessary. You need to set a foundation first. So you need to upgrade a diet. We talked about you gotta Implement that movement. we gotta talk about, you know, clean water, clean air and all those types of things and breathwork and mindset. And so there's plenty of things that we can start with that don't cost any money to kinda set the foundation before we even think about ingesting in some technologies that may help us.

Brian (38m 5s):

Yeah, and I, and I agree. I mean there's so much information out there that you could go crazy, but the key is being held accountable to make sure that you follow through. I think that's like most important. Yeah, so, so someone like yourself or myself could, could definitely push put you on that right path. So. Excellent, Dr. Mike. Well I will put Links in the show notes for people that wanna check you out. Mv vp online.com and biohacking unlimited.com, right? Yeah. And yeah, I appreciate you coming on the podcast and sharing all this knowledge.

Mike (38m 36s):

Thanks for your time too, Brian. Yes, there's knowledge, but you spending your time and your efforts too to get the message out. So as a teamwork. So thank you also for your time.

Brian (38m 44s):

You're welcome. Thanks for listening to the Get Lean Eat Clean Podcast. I understand there are millions of other Podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine and I appreciate that. Check out the show notes@briangrin.com for everything that was mentioned In, this episode. Feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member that's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again and have a great day.

Dr. Mike Van Thielan

Dr. Mike Van Thielen, PH.D., has been involved in optimal health practices, antiaging and regenerative medicine, sports performance, nutrition, and supplementation for over three decades. Currently, Dr. Mike is the Chief Medical Officer at ClarigenZ and the Executive Director of Physical Therapy, Wellness, and Regenerative Medicine at Emerge HealthCare.

As a top swimmer in his native Belgium, he gained interest in optimizing health and athletic performance. Thielen graduated from the University of Brussels (Belgium) in 1993 with a bachelor's degree in physical education and in 1995 with a master's degree in physical therapy. He served as the assistant coach and physical therapist for Belgian Olympic swimmers in preparation for the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta. After saving $400, Thielen packed a backpack and moved to Florida in 1997.

After managing several pain management clinics, he pursued his Master of science in Oriental medicine and his Bachelor of Science in professional health studies from the Florida College of Integrative Medicine in Orlando. Thielen is a licensed physical therapist, a licensed acupuncture physician, and a doctor of Oriental Medicine, with certifications in injection therapy, homeopathy and homotoxicology, Chinese herbal medicine, and non-invasive cosmetic procedures. He also has a Ph.D. in Holistic Nutrition from the College of Natural Health.

Thielen has owned multiple anti-aging clinics in central and northeast Florida and developed a successful system to create customer loyalty that boosted new customer referrals and resulted in retaining more than 90% of existing customers. In 2008, he founded a company that certified health care professionals in health and wellness programs, sensible weight loss, and natural non-invasive cosmetic procedures, and trained over 1,000 professionals in just 5 years.


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