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Red light is very beneficial. Like if you get in front of your red light panel, you may notice that your veins in your feet and your arms, they start to surface and you're like, wow, I didn't realize I had veins in my hands and my feet like that. Well, what's happening is, is your veins in arteries, they actually have something called a chromo four, which is a light receptor. So whenever you get exposed to red light, the veins in the arteries vasodilate, they open up. And if you improve blood flow, you can actually start to improve function. So let's say someone has pain in their hands or arthritis And, what happens is, is when the weather gets really cold, you know, now they start noticing more pain because cold is gonna constrict your arteries and then heat is gonna vasodilate open 'em up.
So the more blood flow that you get into these muscles and these joints and these nerves and even organs, the better function you have. And that's what happens with red light exposure.
Hello Hello and welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. I'm Brian Gryn and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was, five, 10, even 15 years ago. Each week I'll give you an in depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long term sustainable results. This week I interviewed Dr Kyle Dagel with a fellowship in childhood developmental and behavioral disorders. He's changing the game in healthcare. Dr. Dagel s passion for health and wellness extends to lecturing all around the world on topics like traumatic brain injuries, spinal cord injuries, mold exposure, and childhood development.
Brian (1m 38s):
We touched on The benefits of Red, Light Therapy, Dr. Kyle's morning routine, the Power of Visualizing, your Future Enhancing sleep through Magnetic sleep pads, and his one tip to get your body and mind back to what it once was. I really enjoyed my Interview with Dr Kyle. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All, right Welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. My name is Brian Gryn and I have Dr. Kyle Delon. Welcome to the show.
Kyle (2m 6s):
Thank you Brian.
Brian (2m 8s):
Thanks for coming on. We're gonna touch on a lot of topics today, so I'm excited to have you here. And you're coming from, you're not in Dubai, Now I know you said you, are you in Louisiana?
Kyle (2m 18s):
Yeah, I'm in Louisiana right now.
Brian (2m 20s):
Okay. And maybe give the audience a little background, you know, how you got into sort of alternative holistic medicine and and what sort of led led you down that path?
Kyle (2m 30s):
Yeah, well I've, I actually had a young brother that ended up getting a medical procedure that almost, you know, died. I spent six weeks in the hospital in ice baths and I watched this doctor save my brother's life and I watched my dad hug this doctor and really just watching this, this the way that my dad was just so compelling and just thankful for this doctor saving his life, I was like, that's what I wanna do. So since second grade I had the intention to be a doctor, but I was actually, my pursuit was actually oncology, pediatric oncology went into LSU and undergrad dived into research student research assistant.
Kyle (3m 12s):
And that, you know, led me into the nutritional aspect. So I decided to not go to med school, went into alternative medicine and in that I decided to take chiropractic because at the time when I was in school, chiropractors had direct access where, you know, you can just basically go into a chiropractor without a diagnosis. They could diagnose you versus a pt. You had to go to a medical doctor, get a script to actually go do pt. So that's what really got me into chiropractic. And then in there it was really neat because I had the opportunity to be trained by a lot of really amazing doctors. Like one guy named Dr. Brandon Brock who was teaching me about, you know, traumatic brain injuries. And then I learned from a guy named Batis Ian who was talking about this gut brain connection on how you can really help out, you know, a lot of patients' autoimmune issues, all this by cleaning up people's diet and their gut.
Kyle (4m 4s):
And then that led me into, you know, open to private practice. I actually had a severe traumatic brain injury in 2013 that really kind of got me into, I was doing sports performance, got me into traumatic brain injury rehab mainly 'cause I wanted to fix myself. And in doing that, that led me into actually going into childhood development. My previous history as I had a DHD as a child, pretty severe medicated for about 18 years. And that actually had a part of actually my recovery in TBI rehab. So then I started studying something called primitive reflexes. These are infant reflexes that allowed the brain develop.
Kyle (4m 48s):
And I actually found that to be a massive secret into TBI world on how to recover. And then, you know, I just started trying to look into biohacking, just ways that, you know, because I was on medications for 18 years, I wanted to find ways that I could possibly try to reduce the stress response. And I just pulled it all together from steady red light studying PMF, transcranial direct nutrition, primitive reflexes, oxygen therapy, saunas and Now I have this really kind of state-of-the-art treatment where people fly from all over the world to come and see me because I basically have been able to basically structure really intense rehab program with lots of different diversity of, of therapies.
Brian (5m 34s):
Yeah. Wow. Interesting. And so you've gone sort of into different paths that have led you first starting out with like maybe traumatic brain injuries and then it's sort of led you down different paths. And I noticed you talk about like vibration therapy and low powered lasers. I'm curious it's how are, how do those play a role in your practice? Yeah,
Kyle (5m 55s):
Well you know, I, I'm a nerd man. I don't watch tv. I read a lot of research and what really intrigued me was I got into this type of thera, this field called functional neurology, which is how you can basically stimulate the brain, whether it was through colors, the eyes, eye movements, but vibration therapy really intrigued me whenever I started looking into the spinal cord because the back half of the spinal cord has a specific pathway. It's called the DCML pathway and it's specific for vibration. And what's interesting about vibration is that it actually really drives an area of the brain called the parietal lobe, which is your spatial map. So you know, young kids who for example, have like a poor appropriate perception, they'll walk into things, will actually physically vibrate their body a lot And, what happens is, is their brain becomes aware of where they are in space and that translates into paralysis.
Kyle (6m 49s):
People who have brain injuries is that if you actually use vibration therapy, for example on a paralyzed arm, then the brain itself starts getting a better awareness of where that arm is in space and you get better control.
Brian (7m 2s):
Hmm. And I notice on your Instagram you, you post a lot of like your stories. Are there like a couple, like maybe one or two stories that sort of stick out that have you've, how you've helped someone through the years?
Kyle (7m 13s):
Yeah, well I just had a guy today, I've been working him for about a year now. He was a spinal cord patient that he was pressure washed in his boat and he slipped and fell and landed on his back and he fractured his T 10 spine and he got diagnosed what's called an Asia a quad. Pretty much that's means that's a pretty poor prognosis. You're not really going to basically be able to really move and walk. Hmm. And so this guy tells me, he says, look, I'm a diesel mechanic, I have a young daughter, I wanna walk her down the aisle and I do not want to be confined to this wheelchair And, you know, I tap into everything. I'm into, you know, mindset, I'm into meditation, I'm into visualization.
Kyle (7m 54s):
So. we kind of threw it off, said Look, I'm gonna basically tell you that you know, the neurologist and all those guys can tell you that you're probably never gonna walk. I said, but there's another aspect that if you really truly wanna walk, what we have to do is basically tap into all the powers within mindset. We have to literally rehab every single spinal pathway that literally is gonna connect from your spine to your brain. And there's a lot of different, you know, you know different pathways like cold, cold plunge we were talking about earlier, vibration music, metronomes, arrhythmic movements, vibration. And so I was showing him, I was like, look man, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna literally, every day we're gonna basically try to target these pathways.
Kyle (8m 37s):
And the cool thing is, is that we were able to take this guy from complete paralysis from the waist down to today. He's now driving. He told me today it was actually his wife. She said that he went from an Asia a quad to an Asia D quad. But he now has full functioning of both limbs. He's walking on a four prong walker. But he's got his life back And. you know, it's cool because you know the, you know, neurologists will tell patients, you know, don't go and do this alternative therapy, it's not going to work. But they realize that if you don't do anything, you're never going to go anywhere. Or if you don't use it you lose it. So a lot of these people realize that there's a lot more than just taking a pill.
Kyle (9m 22s):
And that's where people start coming to see me, but really drives a lot of these patients in to see me is I do post these videos and really they're just designed to basically show people out there that are struggling that no matter what you have going on, that there's still a potential and there's still a chance. But a lot of times you gotta kind of tap into some of these, you know, this, it's all scientific. It might kinda look a little crazy, but you know, everything we do is based by research. So that was one case I've had a lot. I do a lot of traumatic brain injury rehab, so I've had been able to help. Like I have a kid from Northern California that when I got him, he fell off of a horse and he had his legs like stuck together.
Kyle (10m 7s):
And, you know, goal for him was to be able to get on a horse to be able to rope again and to be able to walk. And I have this guy basically on a horse. I have him roping, I have him walking. So again, it's lots of cool cases. And then, you know, I have a really cool story on Instagram. I posted of this guy who had three days to live in liver failure with a brain infection and he was on hospice, which I didn't know he was in hospice 'cause he, he failed to mention that to me. And then after doing a bunch of red light therapy, And, you know, we actually used a lot of magnets or pfs. We were able to get this guy to now two years later he's running a construction company and he had seven days to live.
Brian (10m 53s):
Wow. And he reached out to you and you're, I mean, that puts you in. I mean I guess he had nothing to, you know, nothing to lose really, other than, you know, he, I'm sure it sounds like some of these people really, what do they, I mean they, they have nothing to, you know, it's almost like you're the last resort to some of these people, right. As far as, you know, getting their health back or even just being able to, you know, live a, a quality life.
Kyle (11m 16s):
Yeah. you know, we just had, you know, a lot of times patients, you know, I typically, you know, an average, usually my patient files, I mean like most of my patients typically have seen at least 10 to about 43 other practitioners before they make the jump to come see me. Yeah. And I'll put on one last case I just had. So I had a young girl from Sydney or from from Australia, I got her, she had what's called CRPS, chronic Regional Pain syndrome and pots. So she was passing out between two to 500 times a day, which sounds astronomically high, which it is. She was having three to five seizures a day and she lost the ability to walk. And her pain was so excruciating that like morphine the lain, Eric will wouldn't touch it.
Kyle (12m 1s):
And her visas were actually expiring December 1st. And I got her October 1st and I had to basically reduce her seizures, get her to no longer pass out, hopefully get her up out of a wheelchair walking. And we were successfully able to use every aspect of our hair, our, our treatment. And she walked out of our clinic last Wednesday, actually did a cartwheel. She walked out there, she donated her, her wheelchair to us. She hasn't had a seizure in about four weeks and hasn't had a synco syncope, which is passing out episode in about two and a half weeks. So, you know, we see some of the wildest things, but I think the, the thing, you know, people that are probably listening is, well how in the world are you doing this magical work?
Kyle (12m 47s):
And it's really not magic. It's basically no one really is looking at someone from a comprehensive standpoint. And for us, everything actually starts with, we call it A-Q-E-E-G So. we actually do an EEG of the brain and we look at all your brainwave activity. And then from there I have an idea of what parts of the brain are working, what aren't, what parts are hyperactive. And then I start, you know, adding in all this sensory stimulation to start getting the brain in a better shape. And then we get into all the labs, And, you know, mindset and yeah, basically physical exercise.
Brian (13m 25s):
Wow, that's amazing work. And before we got on, we were talking a little bit about red light, so I feel like we should maybe go down that path for a little bit. 'cause I was mentioning to you, I I, I bought a red light. It's probably been a year, year and a half and used it from time to time. But you know, I'm just curious, you know, what, what type of things that, that you've seen that red light could be benefit for benefit beneficial for people?
Kyle (13m 47s):
Yeah. Well you know, I tell people, I always start in my clinic with first the equation about Albert Einstein e equals mc squared. So basically energy equals mass, but I break mass down to mass of every cell in your body, excuse me, times the speed of light. And it's not just light, it's the diversity of light. Like all the different colors of the spectrum. So if you take an average individual, most people basically need a lot of caffeine in the morning. They need energy drinks, they gotta take a bunch of B vitamins just to be able to have energy to basically function. And the question to that is, is well why is that happening and why is, you know, so many people are having to consume so much caffeine.
Kyle (14m 30s):
And the answer to that in my clinical opinion is basically if you look at our light exposure that most of us live all indoors, you know, people basically stay inside all day long. They work, you know, in cubicles or in buildings and they're all under artificial light. and we don't really get a lot of, you know, outside sunlight time besides basically maybe going for an early morning jog. If people do that, maybe going from the parking garage to your vehicle, I mean from parking garage to your office or even in the evening time, a lot of people work late. So we're under all these lights. And the sun for example, has all these massive array of colors that it produces in the spectrum.
Kyle (15m 14s):
But a human being in today's society is really only being exposed to blue light. And when you really look at blue light, you know there's a lot of blue light filter glasses, they're showing that blue light can actually cause a lot of stress and sleep disturbances and even weight gain. Even people who get exposed to blue light excessively have an issue breaking down carbohydrates. Hmm. And then you look at red light and red light is very beneficial 'cause red light actually improves energy and improves blood flow, it reduces inflammation. It can actually help out normalize people's sleep cycle. And when you look at all the symptoms people have, it's like every, you know, symptom of basically a red light, you know, deficit.
Kyle (15m 58s):
And then you look at blue light toxicity and you see all these symptoms match up. So what's really happening is, is blue light is way over here on the left and in the color spectrum and red is way over here. And the more red light you get, you actually can negate a lot of this blue light exposure. So you know, I, my partner Dr. Brandon Crawford, we actually own something called neuro solution. It's a laser. We actually own a red light company where we sell these lasers in red light panels all over. But we also teach these doctors about how to use it and red light is very beneficial. Like if you get in front of your red light panel, you may notice that your veins in your feet and your arms, they start to surface and you're like, wow, I didn't realize I had veins in my hands and my feet like that.
Kyle (16m 42s):
Well what's happening is, is your veins in arteries, they actually have something called a chromo four, which is a light receptor. So whenever you get exposed to red light, the veins in the arteries vasodilate, they open up and if you improve blood flow, you can actually start to improve function. So let's say someone has pain in their hands or arthritis And, what happens is, is when the weather gets really cold, you know, now they start noticing more pain because cold is gonna constrict your arteries and then heat is gonna vasodilate open 'em up. So the more blood flow that you get into these muscles and these joints in these nerves and even organs, the better function you have. And that's what happens with red light exposure.
Kyle (17m 23s):
So you know, my favorite applications to red light is actually over the head. I love it on the head because of your, your scalp is actually a chromo has chromo fours in it. So light receptors increased blood flow. I also like red light to the face. you know, very interesting about, you know, what's going on is something called sick building sickness syndrome is, you know, a lot of the air quality control people work in a lot of old, old buildings that actually have what's called mycotoxins mold in 'em. And mold is actually basically, you know, getting stuck or getting coagulant people's sinuses and your sinuses can directly impact your brain, your equilibrium and then also your gut function.
Kyle (18m 5s):
So you know, getting blood flow to your actual face and your sinuses can help out. The other thing is, is your carotid arteries, your carotid arties on the front side of your neck, which actually give blood flow to your frontal lobes. And then you have red light to the back of the head or the back of the neck, which activates something called your vertebral artery, which is gonna supply blood flow to your brainstem, which is where most of your cranial nerves come from. Your eyes, your face, your mouth, your tongue, your stomach, which is amazing because that's where your gut function is and all your vital organs are. And then your back and then also the hands and the feet. So those are some kind of, you know, people have a red light out there listening.
Kyle (18m 44s):
Those are some really neat little spots that you can actually do because again, the better blood flow you get, the better function you get. And being exposed to red light can be extremely beneficial for reducing inflammation, improving energy, improving overall oxygen supply. So if you look at someone's pulse ox, they might have a 95% oxygen, meaning they're only absorbing 95% of oxygen and you get exposed to red light and you see it increase. So the more oxygen consumption you have, you know, the better brain function and organ and muscle function you're gonna have.
Brian (19m 19s):
Yeah, I mean this keeps coming up red light therapy and it's become more popular. Obviously there's companies now quite a bit more companies selling these devices. Would you say that like exposure to red light like 15, 20 minutes a day is probably a good, you know, a good romy for doing it? Or what would you say?
Kyle (19m 39s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. you know, it's just like being outside. So you know, you know, at least people need to get at least 15 to 30 plus minutes of sunlight a day. I think that people that are being exposed to a lot of artificial light probably should look at doing at least 30 to 45 minutes of day of red light or you know, sunlight exposure. But if you can't, you know, if you, if you work a lot inside and you're not able to, you know, basically, you know, get outside, I think it's very a wise thing for people to at least purchase a red light. And I tell people this like, you know, I even, I own a red light company, but you know, red light, all photons basically work so you know, red light, no matter if it's this cheapest red light panel that someone buys or the buy best high quality one, you know, you're still gonna get a benefit from using red light.
Kyle (20m 31s):
So from a budget perspective, red light is extremely beneficial. I tell people that. I think that the difference a lot of times is when you get very precise with the actual pulsation of frequencies, that's when you start kinda getting into another level of better benefit. you know, for example, there's, you know, the Shumon residence, which is the earth's frequency, you know, you can basically, it's grounding. So there's panels or red light that you can actually pulse to your hands in your feet at specific wavelengths like 7.83 hertz. That could be very beneficial. you know, you have different brain waves, people that wanna alter their mood, you know, to be able to help out relaxation.
Kyle (21m 15s):
You have theta, you know, people that wanna meditate and manifest or kind of things like that. There's alpha waves. Athletes that like energy or want to have better performance, they can look into like gamma waves or beta waves. So those, there's different wavelengths of red light or at least frequencies of puls ac that people can look into that could also be a little bit more of a, you know, precise way to Enhance their red light exposure.
Brian (21m 42s):
Yeah, and and like you said, I mean obviously getting outside is, is a big key. you know, I'm in Chicago right now, the weather, actually it's been unseasonably warm. It's we're in December and I, I just was looking, it's supposed to be 55 on Friday, which is like unheard of. But you know, I take two to three walks a day with my dogs and I'm outside first thing in the morning. And so I'm lucky that I could do that. I think some people need to just carve out a little time to do simple things like that. What type of things do you like to do for yourself? Maybe with like, do you have like a morning routine or something like that? Yeah,
Kyle (22m 17s):
I'm the crazy, crazy guy. So I mean I wake up every morning at four. Okay. Basically my routine is I wake up at four. The first thing that I do is because I do a lot of TBI rehab, I do a lot of gratitude because like I had a guy today that was a spinal cord patient that he randomly was walking in the woods and a tree fell and hit in the back of the neck and has a spinal cord injury. Now he's paralyzed. Oh my. So you just never know. So I think gratitude is the most important thing that we should all be thankful for of whatever it is your current situation that you should just be grateful that you just have a heartbeat and you have woke up. So I do gratitude first thing. The next thing that I do is actually do a cold plunge.
Kyle (22m 58s):
I have a pretty, you know, very cold pool right now that I chill out. So I go just do a quick little cold plunge, five, 10 minutes, then I go straight to the gym. I'm into Resistance training, but I do a lot of like extensors. So I do a lot of back, a lot of big large group muscles. Then I come home and then I get into, I do what's called PMF, so pulse electromagnetic frequency, but I actually do PMF to my actually brain. So I have device called neo rhythm. It's a device that was made in Slovenia. I think the company's actually now out of Amsterdam, But. It's neat because you can actually use an app on your phone to control your brainwaves. And then from that I do like affirmations and then I have this big massive canvas.
Kyle (23m 44s):
And this is where I basically do all of my goal planning, visualization, meditation aspect. So I'm very big into a guy named Joe Dispenza. So I do a lot of acoustic brainwaves. So basically whenever I do visualizations of meditation, I actually listen to brainwaves and then I do something called nano V. It's this breathing device that you breathe in, vaporized water. So there's a infrared laser inside of this glass jar. And then I breathe in vaporized water and then I do my own red light. So I basically laser my carotids, my cerebellum, my hands, my feet, and my stomach.
Kyle (24m 25s):
And then I typically take calls and then that's after finished up. Good.
Brian (24m 29s):
I was just gonna say that's it.
Kyle (24m 31s):
Oh, way do I wake up at four, man.
Brian (24m 34s):
Hey, you know what, there's things get done first thing, right? Like, I mean I just wrote down, I tried to keep up 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. I got eight things so far. Yeah,
Kyle (24m 46s):
I didn't add in. So, but by the time that's stuff before I get started now I'm a big fan of sunrises and sunsets for circadian rhythm. And then at the end of the day, after I finish up my whole routine, then I do sauna before I go to bed. And again I do another 30 minute round of a red light panel. And yeah man, that's basically my routine and I've been doing that. But what happened is, is I went from having like a bunch of, like I told you a DHD symptoms and auto, I had some autoimmune issues, And, you know, in that, you know, I eat super clean. So I'm a very low carb kinda guy. I like the paleo carnivore, seasonal eating, I mean so much.
Kyle (25m 26s):
I actually, you know, I actually have my own restaurant in my community just because, yeah, well I just, I travel a lot, but I also wanna make sure that when I'm going my family eats super clean food. So when
Brian (25m 38s):
Do you, when do you, when do you eat af Do you, do you eat when you get back from the gym or do you wait or,
Kyle (25m 43s):
Yeah, so I just eat in the mornings I do just a little bit of some protein. Typically do, I do a lot of protein shakes though. And then I do fast. So I do intermittent fasting. So I basically eat breakfast and then I won't eat until typically I get home, which is about six 15. And then I try to make sure that after the sun goes down that you know, I'm not eating anymore until, you know, the next day.
Brian (26m 7s):
Wow. And yeah, I love how you do affirmations and goal setting and gratitude. So you pretty much start your day with gratitude, which is great. I, yeah, I, I I don't have quite the morning routine that you have, but like I feel like if, if people could just take one or two of these things and implement them, not everyone maybe is gonna get up at four and do two hour routine, you know, even if it's a 15, 20 minute routine, I think that can be effective
Kyle (26m 34s):
Effecti. Yeah, well you know, so what happened is, I read a book years ago called the Magic of Thinking Big and I've always been a pretty high achiever. I played college baseball, so I was able to get, you know, get to that level. But then I got hurt and then I decided to stop. But then I, you know, I opened this private practice and what happened is, is I had a very large private practice and I, after reading this book, I realized that I really accomplished everything that I kinda wanted to from a goal setting. But then I realized that I was thinking too small. So then I challenged myself to see if I can start attracting international patients. And so in doing that, I started trying to focus in on, try and do, my very first patient was from Queensland, Australia, and it literally took me two weeks.
Kyle (27m 18s):
I basically went to my office vendor, said All, right? Look Brandy, what we're gonna do is we're gonna get a big map of the world and we're gonna start focused on attracting patients from all over the globe. And I just picked Australia and my first patient with Queensland and I was like, this is interesting. So then we just started literally putting pins all over the whole world. And then we started attracting all these people randomly would reach out to us on Instagram or Facebook from like Israel or the UAE or Slovenia, Croatia, Ireland, uk. And it was just massive. People started just coming in And. what happened was is I started actually in the morning time, I was actually scripting, so basically I was just basically just basically thanking God for sending me these patients and then all of a sudden they started coming.
Kyle (28m 8s):
So then now what's happening is, is we see over 73 different countries fly to see me. And in doing that, you know, I realized to start thinking even bigger. So my morning routine, I think everyone, you know, I tell people this, is that if you really, really, really want to grow or you want to even recover from like a terminal illness or, or any that people really need to actually use first thing in the morning as much as they possibly can into Visualizing their future, you know, where you can see yourself going. And that's what I did is I basically picked, you know, I wanted to go to Dubai and you know, I spent five years actually legitimately watching 4K videos, trying to visualize myself opening up a facility in the UAE and magically, you know, that actually was able to happen.
Kyle (28m 59s):
And my wife was like, Kyle, you need to quit, like you need to sleep in. And I'm like, no, no, no. And 'cause after was, after three years, she was like, one day she wakes up and she's like, it hasn't worked. And I'm like, I was like, it's gonna work. And I was like, it's just, it's, it's not the right timing. And whenever I got an opportunity to take my whole family over there and meet, you know, our partners over there and she was like, this is freaking insane. She's like, you were so dedicated and you never gave up. And I was like, you know, it just takes time. And that's a lot of times when people do these routines is that it's not that it's gonna be a quick fix or this is you're going to like attract or recover or whatever people are looking for.
Kyle (29m 40s):
It's the persistency. But I tell people this, it's the faith that you have. I'm a massive fan of Steve Harvey and Steve Harvey has this one thing about once you make a plan of whatever you want to be in life, you know, you basically, you know, God basically wraps it up and he sends it to you, but you just never know the timing of when you're going to receive this. And if you're on, you know, the, you know, unfaithful or doubting street or you know, it's impossible street, it's never going to come. But if you're on that Face Street and you stay on that face street and you never get off of it, eventually that's gonna come.
Kyle (30m 22s):
And that's what happened with us. We built this laser company that's now completely all over the world and all these patients. But my partner and I knew that one day by us educating me on social media that people would realize that we weren't crazy, that we were doing scientific stuff, But, it was the repe, the repetitive, the results that people are like All, right? you know, we're gonna give these guys a shot and then boom, now we travel to teach all these people But. it all came from the consistency of, you know, everyday grinding it out, you know, trying to build a blueprint and to eventually now it's like crazy that everything that we wrote down and we visualized and we talked about and we dreamed of is now a reality.
Kyle (31m 5s):
And it's cool because we're making impact all over the world. And at the end of the day, helping other people achieve their goals is ultimately the best reward you can have.
Brian (31m 15s):
Yeah. And focusing on that over and over. And it's like, I think a lot of people don't, don't put their mindset to to doing that. you know, like, or they start and they just, they give up or they don't continue to focus on the one thing or whatever that they want to get. And it just takes, like you said, persistence.
Kyle (31m 36s):
Yeah, success is, I'm talking about my staff. you know, success is a habit. You don't look at an Olympic athlete and say they did overnight. Those people put six, eight hours every single day. They, they're the ones, even in college, they were out working everyone else And, you know, and if you ask them whenever they win a gold medal and it's like, you know, my cousin's actually an Olympic athlete, Jenny Finch. And she knew, she, she literally saw herself with holding gold medals and, and she did. And when I work with athletes, I always ask them like, dude, tell me your story. And it's always the same thing. It's like they knew, they knew they were gonna be there. Like when they would go to sleep at night, they'd close their eyes and they knew they could see themselves, you know, wear a number five and playing in the Super Bowl or you know, striking someone out to win the World Series like they knew.
Kyle (32m 23s):
And that's the cool thing about the mind, you know, when I work with these spinal cord patients, like I love to work with spinal cord patients because I'm like, look man, all you have to do is really, really tap in like, can you see your foot move? And they're like, no. I'm like, like look, your foot's not gonna move until you see it. And then I use virtual reality a lot with these patients to where I put them into vr. So I desensitize their brain to where they're not getting any abnormal and I literally have like a foot and the hand and the hand virtually moves and I trick the brain into thinking that the hand's moving or the foot and then we put 'em out of VR and I'm like, All right now, try to get your foot or hand to move. And they're like, oh my god, my finger can move. And it's like, yeah, but it's the power of visualization.
Kyle (33m 4s):
But when you see something, you know, the brain doesn't know if it's real or not. And with vr, you know, when you see this virtual hand move, their brain's like, whoa. and we vibrate their hand whenever we're moving their hand and their brain starts to move their fingers. And yeah man, it's, that's, that's probably the coolest thing about, you know, what I get to do is, is tap in and like motivate people. It's like, you know, you just, you just never know and it's just like you never know what tomorrow's gonna bring. Yeah. Just the consistency of it
Brian (33m 35s):
And, and getting up at four. What time do you go to sleep? I'm just curious
Kyle (33m 39s):
Man, I'm typically 9 30, 10 o'clock.
Brian (33m 41s):
Okay. Got it. And what about helping people with sleep? Like we talked about your morning routine, obviously they're all sort of tied together, like getting up in the morning and seeing sunlight can actually help you actually, you know, set your circadian rhythm so you can actually get better sleep. But do what type of sleep routine do you have or do you coach with individuals?
Kyle (34m 4s):
Yeah, so main thing is I actually, you know, I do a, a brain, I do A QEG, so I monitor their brainwave and I show people that most people who actually have sleep deficits typically have excessive high beta waves. So high beta waves are like your fight or flight, like if you're exposed to a tiger, you're stressed out. And the way the brain basically kind of goes and you have like if someone's like that, their brain is in high beta, then the next brain wave below that's called beta, which is like alert, it's like you and I are right now. Then you go into an alpha wave, which is more kind of like a relaxation. Then you go into theto, which is that drowsiness, then you go into a delta wave and a lot of patients who have sleep disturbances, their brain can't actually go down into that delta rhythm.
Kyle (34m 48s):
So delta's when you're able to actually like sleep, it's your like REM sleep. So what I actually recommend a lot of patients do is typically listen to theta acoustic or theta binaural, theta isochronic tone. So I actually train them to do sound waves basically. So theta waves, I do actually recommend that people who do have sleep disturbances that after the sun goes down to minimize all blue light exposure. So all artificial light, just use a candle if you have to. The other first thing is that you mentioned curad with them waking up early in the morning watching the sunrise and then also watching sun typically about three to five days of consistency of doing that can really help out.
Kyle (35m 31s):
I'm a very big fan of actually taking serotonin precursors. So like stuff like five HTP, I'm a big fan of fish oil. I'm a very big fan of actually gut health. I think that a lot of people who have sleep disturbances have what's called sibo. They have abnormal gut bacteria. So taking really good probiotics are getting, you know, meeting a functional medicine doctor, getting stool samples to clean the gut up. If people don't have the finances to do that or you know they want to do that. Then low carb diets, basically paleo diet, seasonal eating, those are some pretty good things.
Kyle (36m 13s):
And then I personally, I use the Magnetic co sleep pad, so it's actually a hundred pound magnet and it's amazing. I'm a very big fan of, there's a really good book, it's called The Mitochondria Manifesto.
Brian (36m 32s):
Kyle (36m 33s):
I don't dunno if you've ever read that book But, it is by name RD Lee Randy, the mito man,
Brian (36m 39s):
Kyle (36m 41s):
RD Lee. Yeah. And I the, you know, the book is really based off of a neuros neurosurgeon named Jack Cruz. I dunno if you've ever heard of him. He's pretty big on YouTube but Red light. But this book is phenomenal. But I think that anyone out there who really wants to hijack their life or biohack their life back, this book, the Mitochondria Manifesto is unbelievable. But yeah, so I sleep on this Magnetic co sleep pad, it's a hundred pound magnet. you know, the whole concept of this Magnetic co sleep pad was based off of grounding, you know, back in the day, you know, everyone slept on like, you know, dirt floors and you had like a wooden bed which was attached to the dirt And.
Kyle (37m 22s):
now we're on concrete now we have, you know, EMFs and wifi and all that. I think that, you know, those do have on some individuals can disrupt some of their biophysiology. So even, you know, cutting your wifi outer off could potentially help you out. But this Magnetic sleep pad,
Brian (37m 42s):
Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. So you're just putting this on top of the bed.
Kyle (37m 46s):
So you put it, so you, your box spring and then you put the Magnetic code sleep hat on top of that and then you put your mattress on top of that. Oh, okay. Yeah man, it's, it's wild. That interesting. I feel that, you know, they were showing some, some research actually, you know, I wrote this down 'cause I was gonna tell you. So the research from this was showing that it would reduce free radical, which is basically a lot of inflammation and stress by 80% at 3:00 PM it would increase beta endorphins by 45% and increase serotonin levels by 24% and it would decrease cortisol by 12%.
Kyle (38m 27s):
All from research from this Magnetic sleep pad. So again, for me, I'm a, I research like crazy. When I happened to come across this I was like look, lemme try it out because I've been doing PFS for a long period of time, but this has been a complete game changer. 'cause dude, I travel international like crazy. It's not uncommon for me to be here in America. I'll fly to Dubai for three or four days, come back home for a week, go to the UK for a week, fly back two weeks later I'm in Croatia, fly back. Two weeks later I'm in Sydney, Australia, fly back like I do a lot of international travel and people ask me about jet lag and I'm like, look man, I figured out how to beat jet lag.
Kyle (39m 8s):
I can literally fly somewhere And. what I do is I literally, when I fly, I did a leave on like a Friday. I make it there Saturday, I go try to get sunlight and then Sunday, you know, I basically just kinda recuperate a little bit. But this was crazy. I start working on Monday, I work till Friday and I fly right back and I'm back to practice in my practice on a Monday. And I do that nonstop. You
Brian (39m 31s):
Bring the pad with you. I'm sorry. Do
Kyle (39m 33s):
What? What I would do is that I fly actually with a PMF pad. So that's one of the things that's very interesting about jet lag is you know, you basically hear in one place, you know you're on the ground, you got magnetism and you get on an airplane and then you go either, you know, forward or backwards in time. What I do is I literally put this Magnetic sleep pad or not sleep pad. The the for the pad, I use the omni rhythm PMF pad. I put it on the bottom of my feet and I use the 7.83 hertz onic residence and I fly. And then soon as I land I basically do sunlight exposure.
Kyle (40m 14s):
So I try to always just go watch you the sunrise sunset. But I go into a park and go barefoot, which, you know, a lot of people look at me like I'm weird. But you know, I'm trying to basically hijack my sleep cycle. And that's one way man that I've beat. And then I sleep when I'm back home on the Magnetic of sleep pad. And it is insane because people ask me, they're like, dude, I literally just saw you were in Croatia, you know, Saturday. And I'm like, yeah and I'm back to work on Monday and I do this, like I shoot, I think I had like 150 something thousand flight miles just this year.
Brian (40m 47s):
Wow. And this sleep pad. So you're putting it just under the mattress so you didn't even know what's there really.
Kyle (40m 52s):
Yeah, no, you don't really know it's there. And you know, there's some people there when you, when you read the actual research, some people actually who have like chronic illnesses, it's probably best to put it like underneath your bed originally 'cause it does detoxify you, which is very interesting. 'cause you gotta think about like you're sleeping on a magnet and then as you breathe, you know, you basically look at your chest so little it actually helps. There's something called the G lymphatic system, basically how our brain gets rid of all the lymph and stuff. So it does help out detoxify you. So most people who are constipated or people who maybe have like methylation issues or glutathione issues, this stuff will help with detoxifying.
Kyle (41m 38s):
So initially it's very important to make sure you drink a lot of water sleeping on its magnet. But yeah, it can, it, it's amazing. People literally lose weight. I mean this, when you read this book, the this guy literally lost a lot of weight by literally sleeping on a freaking magnet.
Brian (41m 56s):
Always something. It's crazy. Always,
Kyle (41m 59s):
Brian (42m 2s):
God, I'm trying to think where we should go from here. So what would you say, I mean you do a lot of biohacking, And, you know, I would say 99% of the people aren't doing these things. What would you say the biggest levers are that, you know, you use throughout your, that you've seen with your practice and with individuals? I know you're working with specific people who have obviously some needs where, whether it's brain, you know, traumatic brain injuries or things like that, but just maybe the everyday person, what are some of the maybe the biggest sort of levers that they can do on a day-to-day basis? And I know you've mentioned some of them already, but,
Kyle (42m 34s):
Well, you know, another thing I haven't mentioned is something called deuterium depleted water. Are you familiar with
Brian (42m 39s):
Kyle (42m 40s):
Yeah. Yeah. I, I'm a massive fan of that. I mean I, you know, I'm not drinking it right now, but I think that people who get access to drinking that just because what people don't realize this is that we live in a toxic world. So people really need to be able to be very mindful about their body's ability to be able to detoxify. So again, I like toter depleted water, but just basic common things. I really think sunlight exposure is something that people really, really need to amp up. I think that that can make a significant difference in their vitamin D, their energy levels, sleep cycle, you know, people even though cold exposure first thing in the morning, I tell people that, you know, you don't to do cold plunges, but just even doing like, you know, ice packs to your carotid arteries for like, you know, just one to couple minutes, that's just enough to be able to kind of help boost an energy production with you.
Kyle (43m 34s):
Reducing light exposure after sundown can make a massive, massive difference. And then I think, you know, again, just basic seasonal eating, eating, you know, people trying to go to like the gosh farmer's market, you know, on the weekends and actually buying like local foods. you know, those are some basic little things. And then again, if people can, you know, you know, invest a little bit in red light exposure, you know, I'm a massive fan of that. you know, at least just exposing, you know, worst case, you know, telling people, if you only had like one place to basically put red light, I would tell it to put it to your stomach just because, you know, we wear clothes all the time and we don't really, you know, the summertime people get their, you know, abdomens exposed.
Kyle (44m 19s):
But you know, it's very interesting as you know this, 'cause you, you know, if you obviously follow that, but you go to the beach, you feel so good at the beach And, you know, if you're typically wearing a bathing suit. But I massively am a massive fan of sunlight exposure to the stomach or a red light to the stomach. Reduce all the inflammation in the gut because that can reduce inflammation and stress to the brain.
Brian (44m 41s):
Hmm. Yeah. That and And, you know, nowadays, like for example, we're not seeing the sun much, but even just getting outside, you're still going to that, you're still getting exposed to the sun. It's just not, it's behind the clouds obviously it's not, but yeah, no, these are all great things. I mean,
Kyle (45m 1s):
You know, I'll just say that. I mean my favorite thing, so this is, but you know, here's my, here's my, I do a significant amount of red light exposure to my carotids.
Brian (45m 11s):
Yeah. So if you're watching on YouTube, he's, he's demonstrating it. That's cool. Yeah. My, I have a light in mine just, I'm sort of just sitting in front of it, but yeah, that one's looks like it. You could just do more targeted red light. Yeah.
Kyle (45m 25s):
This, this is a, this is like the Mac daddy and then the other one is behind the, we call this area in neurology. This is like where we do like the cerebellum, but this is the vertebral artery here in here. But these are, these are my favorite two places that I basically do red light exposure. you know, I've, I'm the crazy guy that even my have two kids, I have a seven to 3-year-old, both of my kids when they were born in the hospital, like I literally brought my laser and I was, I, my kids have been lasered every day. Okay. So my daughter,
Brian (45m 58s):
Yeah, go ahead.
Kyle (45m 59s):
No, I'm sorry. I was gonna say my daughter, you know, she FaceTimed her friend and she's like, you know, I'm in front of a red light panel and that and she's like, why is your house so red? And she's like, my dad's weird.
Brian (46m 11s):
Hey, you know what, nothing wrong with being weird. Right? Oh,
Kyle (46m 14s):
Brian (46m 14s):
Sure. And does your wife do a lot of this stuff as well? Or, or she
Kyle (46m 18s):
Not as much as, I mean she likes to laser, you know, women like, you know, cosmetic for wrinkling and stuff, but that's, that's basically about, she thinks I'm just crazy. She's like, I don't know why you have, you know, the earthly idea even on a Saturday and Sunday to wake up at four o'clock in the morning.
Brian (46m 33s):
Yeah. I mean I so much can get done when you're up early like that, like you said, I mean I wrote down your morning routine. I mean crazy. I do value sleep so sometimes I don't like to get up that early. But yeah, get things done, that's for sure.
Kyle (46m 49s):
Yeah, no, for sure.
Brian (46m 51s):
Well this was great. I mean what, what, this is a common question I'll just finish up with what, what one tip would you give someone, even though we've gotten a lot of tips today, someone may be looking to get their body or mind back to what it once was. I know this, you know, you could probably give a bunch of different tips. But it one, what one tip would you give that individual?
Kyle (47m 8s):
I would say probably, you know, my favorite book. I think education is by far probably the most important thing. My favorite. I say lemme give you two books because why is isn't My Brain Working by Dais Ian and Clean Gut by Dr. Alexander J. Those are my top two books for health. I would say from a Mindset and Mind Control would be Supernatural by Joe Dispenza.
Brian (47m 41s):
I know that one.
Kyle (47m 42s):
Those are some pretty good books. And then when you go into biohacking, I mean I think that the best thing that someone could potentially do is potentially probably, I think the Magnetic O sleep pad is, you know, a game changer just because of it basically adds polarity to your body. And, you know, the sicker we get, the less energy we have and the most, you know, restorative, you know, time of our day is in our sleep, so why not try to add electrons into your body when you're sleeping? And I think that that's a missing link. And then outside of that, you know, red light exposure, you know, at least if you could 30 minutes, 45 minutes a day to at least your stomach, your back, you know, and your carotids.
Brian (48m 32s):
You got me more. I'm gonna be doing it right after this, this interview. That's for sure.
Kyle (48m 37s):
It makes a difference. And, you know, I would say this the, I from a, from my personal perspective, you know, I run a lot of, I do a lot of labs. I think that probably one of the next biggest health epidemics that we're going to see is actually going to be fungal infections. I don't think that people realize how bad mold exposure is, whether it's coming from the air quality in someone's home, water damaged buildings, old buildings. And then the other thing is actually our food source that people don't realize how much mold or mycotoxins is in carbohydrates in coffee and stuff like that.
Brian (49m 16s):
Yeah, yeah. I've heard about that with coffee and coffee's the most consumed, you know, probably the most consumed beverage, you know, of anything
Kyle (49m 27s):
Okri toxin A is is one of the most common mold exposures that I have seen globally. I mean like I work with autistic kids that are non-verbal and I have yet to actually see an autistic kid. And this is all over the world that hasn't tested positive for ritoxin A, which is mold. And that's all these kids eat is basically carbohydrates.
Brian (49m 50s):
Hmm. Yeah. So knowing your food source,
Kyle (49m 53s):
Brian (49m 54s):
Right. Well, Dr. Dagel, this was great. Where's the best place for people to find it? I know you have a lot going on. What, what, what website should they visit?
Kyle (50m 6s):
Yeah, So, we have, you know, a couple, you know, Instagram is definitely a great way, 'cause I have, you know, Dr. Kyle Daigle that has a popple page. What has Links to like everything. Neuro solution.com is our red light company. My practice actually is neuro solution lc.com. And I mean, yeah. And then I have a dr Kyle Daigle dot com llc. It's actually, it just, they just took it down And, now it's getting revamped. But those are some great ways. And then I also have another software company, it's called Neuro Sage. So neuro sage.com.
Kyle (50m 47s):
We actually make video games for, for achieving wellness. Basically it's using sound waves, acoustic and visual and eye movements that you can play video games at your own, you know, in your own home to help out reducing pain and discomfort and improving cognitive function.
Brian (51m 4s):
Okay. Well I'll put, I'll put these in the show notes so people can find you. Okay. If they wanna reach out. Yeah. Now I, I appreciate you coming on the show and you know, going through your routine and sharing all this knowledge for us.
Kyle (51m 15s):
Yeah. Well thank you so much Brian for having me.
Brian (51m 18s):
Yeah, thanks And enjoy the day All.
Kyle (51m 20s):
Right, thank you.
Brian (51m 22s):
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