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Interview with Dr. Alan Bauman: Biohacking Hair Loss and Latest Advancements in Hair Restoration!

October 30, 2023 in Podcast


This week I interviewed Dr. Alan Bauman!

Dr. Bauman is the founder and CEO of Bauman Medical, an international leading treatment center in the field of hair restoration. He has been at the forefront of exploring the connection between hair loss and biohacking.

In this episode, we discuss:

  • What are the main causes of hair loss in both men and women?
  • Lifestyle Habits to Help Prevent Hair Loss
  • Latest advancements in Hair Restoration
  • Supplements for Strong Hair
and much, much more!

Brian (0s):

Coming up on the GET, LEAN, Eat, Clean, Podcast.

Alan (4s):

But there's other regenerative treatments as well, like for example, Ted Trans Epidermal delivery, which uses growth factors and peptides, which are non-pharmaceutical. and we push those through the skin using ultrasonic sound waves, which break up the skin layers that are normally protective and barrier to moisture. We dysregulate that moisture barrier, push them, push those serums through the skin and we can get a very, very nice hair growth effect without having to use any needles. So Ted is pretty exciting. That's a no drama, no trauma, as we say, type of treatment.

Brian (36s):

Hello and welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean Podcast. I'm Brian Gryn and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was, five, 10, even 15 years ago. Each week I'll give you an in depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long term sustainable results. This week I interviewed Dr. Alan Bauman. He's the founder and CEO of Balman Medical, an international leading treatment center in the field of hair restoration. He's been at the forefront of exploring the connection between hair loss and biohacking. We discussed some of the main causes of hair loss in both men and women. Lifestyle Habits to help prevent hair loss.

Brian (1m 17s):

Latest advancements in Hair Restoration Supplements for strong Hairand. Much, much more. Really enjoyed my Interview with Dr Bauman. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All, right Welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. My name is Brian Gryn and I am on the show. Dr. Alan Bauman. Welcome to the show.

Alan (1m 39s):

Hey, Brian, great to be here with you.

Brian (1m 40s):

Yeah, great to have you on. Just learn you're from the you're, or not from originally, but you're in the Boca area in Florida, and top hair restoration surgeon. What made you, what led you down that path?

Alan (1m 56s):

Well, you know, yeah, no one's ever born into the world of hair transplant surgery, and certainly I didn't think that I was, knew any, I really didn't know anything about hair transplantation until many, many years into my career. But my career in medicine, if you asked my grandmother, she probably would've said, when did Allen decide he wanted to go to medical school? If you asked her, she probably would've said the day he was born. And so it was kind of a preordained thing, I guess maybe an arranged marriage, but at least I was good at, you know, science and math enough to, to pursue the career. And, and obviously I had a lot of encouragement through my family to continue to do that. And, and I always loved helping people, so it was just kind of a natural thing. But I did have the unique opportunity when I was a really, before I had a chance to drive a car when I was a teenager, I met a very prominent plastic surgeon in New York City, and he invited me to watch him operate.

Alan (2m 44s):

And that had a huge impact on my direction in terms of, you know, what I wanted to do with my life. He showed me really the artistic end of surgery as a plastic and reconstructive surgeon. I thought that's what I was always gonna do. And it wasn't until I went many, many years later into internship, residency and surgery, and then eventually met a patient who had had a hair transplant. And I thought that all hair transplants, like most people probably think that it's pluggy or painful, like why would you ever do that? And at the time, in the mid 1990s, you know, plugs were kind of the rule, like crafty looking results, but this guy's results looked amazing. And so it really fooled me. Actually, we had an interesting conversation about that, how he chose the surgeon he chose and where he went.

Alan (3m 28s):

And from a layman's point of view, the technology, which was single follicle implantation. And I took a strong look at his hairline and, and really was interested is to learn more. And that kind of started me on my journey. But I would say, looking back, probably one of the more important things that I remember about that conversation was how he said that the hair really changed his life and the impact that it had on him both socially and professionally kind of stuck with me that, and it kind of gave me that fuel to, to look into it further in addition to the other things I was doing in, in the world of cosmetic procedures and treatments.

Brian (4m 4s):


Alan (4m 5s):

And so that was, you know, almost 30 years ago now, I did a, a, a fellowship or actually a preceptorship in hair transplantation after visiting many, many clinics around the world and going to conferences and reading all they could, and eventually decided to go into hair restoration full tilt a hundred percent as a specialist at that time, and move to Boca Ratone really in the, in 1997 to open up the practice to exclusively perform hair transplant surgery. And so, you know, it's, it's been a great journey. I've treated over 33,000 patients, performed over 12,000 surgeries, done over 13,000 regenerative treatments like PRP and such. So it's a fun practice to have, and we change lives every day.

Brian (4m 46s):

Yeah. Yeah. That's great. And what would you say some of the biggest things that you've learned through the, all the, all the, the, the PA patients that you've treated throughout the years and the surgery you've done? What are some of the biggest things you've learned?

Alan (4m 59s):

Wow. Well, probably the, one of the most important things I've learned is just how emotional the hair follicle is, right? And, what I mean by that is the effect that it can have on a person, whether you're a man or a woman of any age. you know, we have teenagers dealing with alopecia spots, we have young men dealing with male pattern hair loss. We have women who are dealing with PCOS and losing their hair dramatically. Obviously more recently we're dealing with C-O-V-I-D and of course medications and, and menopause and, and all the other things that you can imagine that dysregulate the hair follicle. And we can spend hours and hours talking about all of the, you know, the, the different little micro regulations that happen at a cellular level.

Alan (5m 42s):

But, you know, I like to always just take a step back and realize that, you know, when someone's losing their hair, they're losing a part of something that they typically liked and that they want to keep. And if they've lost it, they definitely want to restore. So, you know, hair, like I said, if you're having a bad hair day, you know what that means. you know, that's a pretty common, you know, well-known phrase in our world. And when somebody says to you, I'm having a bad hair day, wow, look out. Don't, don't come messing around. But, and so it tells you on the flip side, you know, when you restore someone's hair, what I've learned is that it can really make an incredible change in people's lives, making them feel more confident, look more beautiful, look more resilient and youthful and just more vital overall.

Alan (6m 27s):

And I'm included in that. I, I love my hair, I wanna keep my Hairand, so I'm, I'm on that bandwagon too. And so that's what we do here day in and day out at Bauman Medical. We, you know, we help patients look good and feel great by helping 'em maintain, enhance, and, and restore their own living and growing hair, no matter how minor it is, if they're at risk for hair loss or if they've had severe hair loss through an autoimmune condition or an injury or trauma, you know, or simple hereditary causes or, or metabolic disorders. So

Brian (6m 55s):

What would you say some of the main causes of hair loss are?

Alan (6m 59s):

Well, the number one cause that we see in the practice really is genetic. So there's always a, some genetic predisposition, And, you know, we can see male pattern hair loss from across the room, right? It starts with a receding hairline, maybe a thinning in the crown. And that gradual miniaturization of the hair follicles lead to baldness. And you could lose all of your hair across the top, right. My dad went bald when he was in his thirties. And, but in female hair loss, even though it's also has a strong hereditary component, typically sparing the hair in the back of the scalp, it can really thin out the frame of the face and especially the front and center can start to weaken. But it's a little bit more of a diffuse hair loss in the beginning stages, although it can get more severe and recede the hairline as well later on.

Alan (7m 44s):

So hereditary causes are the primary thing that we see. But as I think we talked maybe even before we got started, that hair follicles are very, very sensitive to your body's metabolism. They're very sensitive to your nutrient fuel intake. They're very sensitive to inflammation. And so if you have inflammation on the scalp, that could definitely aggressively cause a hair loss process that you have to progress faster and more profoundly over a short period of time. you know, if you are depleting yourself of nutrients and fuel, either in a weight loss program, you know, purposefully, or maybe you realize that now that there's something missing in your diet like adequate protein or something like that, you know, that could really affect those highly metabolic organs, which are the hair follicles that produce the hair fiber, right?

Alan (8m 29s):

So hair fibers are dead, the follicles are alive, the fibers are like three D printers. They make the hair fiber that we see and touch and style and cut and all that business.

Brian (8m 38s):

And, and, and speaking of just lifestyle, like, like lifestyle changes could people make or, or are there certain things that maybe could help? I'm obviously I, like you said, it's probably a lot, a lot of genetics involved, but like what other things could people do just lifestyle wise to help with prevent hair loss?

Alan (8m 57s):

Well, you know, obviously stay resilient, stay healthy. you know, we've seen so much, for example, you know, covid related hair loss, right? So if you're, whether you're having a, a, a, you know, surgical operation in a hospital or you're dealing with a a, a, a dramatic infection in your body, you know, that can really dysregulate the hair follicle. So keeping your immunity up to speed and supported is, is good. And of course, you know, there's lots of ways to do that, including Supplements and such, making sure that your scalp is healthy. So if you have itchy, dry, flaky, oily, you know, some kind of scalp health issue, some symptom up there, you definitely wanna get that checked out. And so, for example, I have a full-time ology department run by my ologist Kimberly here in the practice to help patients who are dealing with scalp health issues.

Alan (9m 44s):

And that's a huge part of the practice because nearly 50% of people at one time or another are gonna be dealing with some scalp health situation. And so there's, you know, the scalp has its own microbiome. The amount of sebum or oil that your scalp produces can change with age and that could necessitate a change in your haircare regimen and your styling and all these things can cause a unique environment which may not necessarily be so great for hair growth. So definitely want to get that checked out. So I always encourage patients, you know, men or women, especially women going through perimenopause or menopause who might be experiencing some hair thinning to get a full workup. you know, we do a complete medical history and biomarkers and such to see what's going on.

Alan (10m 25s):

And our male patients too. We always want to know what's happening, you know, at a cellular level. And our biomarkers and DNA testing and things like that can certainly help elucidate if there's some underlying causes of hair loss or if the hair loss doesn't fit a certain pattern, right? We talked about receding hairline, thinning crown. If the hair loss is looking different than that, then we need to figure out why.

Brian (10m 47s):

And then what about, I know there's supplement industries like probably overcrowded with different, you know, treatments for, for whatever hair loss and things like that. Are there certain Supplements that you see that might be more effective than others?

Alan (11m 2s):

Well, you know, I do think supplementation is important in this day and age. I really think our nutrient fuel intake is dramatically, you know, poor and and depleted of, of, of, of good quality nutrients and fuel. And I think it's, I think it's very important to maintain a good supplement regimen considering what's a available out there, you know, and I'm not just talking about fast food restaurants, which is just, you know, the worst processed food you could eat. But you know, even stuff you find in the supermarket can sometimes be, you know, not so good for your health, obviously. And, and as we said, hair is an important barometer of that. So I've actually developed my own haircare products, specifically a wellness system for hair supplement line to kind of hit the main points.

Alan (11m 43s):

So a lot of people don't take, especially young men for example, they may not take necessarily multivitamins, so I wanna make sure they get a good multivitamin with B complex and things like that. Protein intake we mentioned before, that's the fuel that's gonna build a hair fiber. So you wanna make sure that your protein intake is adequate. And so I'm not saying you need to be like, you know, a carnival or keto guy, but you know, you wanna make sure your protein is right on point, and especially if you are a vegan or vegetarian that you, you know, be mindful of that, that that's one of the most common things that we see that, that people are vegan, vegetarian, they are undernourished and, and they're not gonna, you know, build good hair fiber typically, and they're not gonna heal as well from surgery. And so that's important.

Alan (12m 23s):

If you need a hair transplant, you definitely wanna build up your protein intake. So, we do have collagen protein, obviously that's not a vegan option, but collagen is part of it. Biotin, everybody kind of born with the knowledge that B seven vitamin H can help with hair. It's not a miracle cure. And none of these Supplements are really miracles, but they're foundational, right? They, the follicles are engines, right? They're, they're many organs. They're trying to do things, you know, with that nutrient and fuel supply to build that hair fiber. So decreasing inflammation maybe with some herbs and other Supplements, you know, adding to that regimen with, you know, other things like ashwagandha to decrease the effects of stress, which stress cortisol, the cortisol hormone, you know, very, very detrimental to the hair follicle, prolonged exposure.

Alan (13m 8s):

So those are some of the things that we have in the wellness system for hair. It's under the Bauman MD line, you know, for your listeners now on Amazon, I guess. But, you know, we can, I can give you some additional information. So the, the, the, the wellness system for hair is the foundational nutritionals. And then we have a haircare product line, which also has some hair growth products in it as well. But those are not magical miracle cures. We have to get into medications, we have to get into laser light therapy, we have to get into regenerative medicine if we're really going to protect and enhance hair follicle function so that those would be the next steps.

Brian (13m 42s):

And, what would you say, what are some of the Latest advancements in Hair Restoration?

Alan (13m 47s):

Well, Latest advancements come in a couple of different flavors I guess. So there's advancements in the non-surgical treatments, right? So these regenerative treatments that we have that we do in the office, we have a much more sophisticated method of applying, for example, PRP, platelet rich plasma, you know, that's a treatment that you get if you have a tennis elbow, you know, you can, you put PRP in there and it'll help it. If you've got a bum knee, it's not, not bone on bone yet you can do PRP there, PRP for the scalp with the appropriate amount of platelets and concentration can really get a regenerative effect as long as the follicles are not dead and gone. And So, we found 10 to 12 billion platelets per treatment is really the magical dose, the sweet spot, if you will, for, for hair growth and, and also for wound healing after hair transplants.

Alan (14m 31s):

But there's other regenerative treatments as well, like for example, Ted Transepidermal delivery, which uses growth factors and peptides, which are non-pharmaceutical. and we push those through the skin using ultrasonic sound waves, which break up the skin layers that are normally protective and barrier to moisture. We dysregulate that moisture barrier, push them, push those serums through the skin and we can get a very, very nice hair growth effect without having to use any needles. So TED is pretty exciting. That's a no drama, no trauma as we say, type of treatment.

Brian (15m 3s):


Alan (15m 3s):

Long have you's gotta come into the office?

Brian (15m 4s):

Yeah. How long has that been going on? How long have you been doing that for?

Alan (15m 7s):

Oh, Ted is about at least two years old already. A lot of the research was done in your neighborhood in Chicagoland area during the pandemic. We were one of the first to be qualified to provide that for patients here in North America. And I've lectured on that topic, presented on that topic in our pilot studies internationally actually. And so, and actually I've slated to, to present again within the next couple of weeks internationally on the effects of ted. We've had a really profound response in terms of hair growth with the TED procedure.

Brian (15m 38s):

Hmm. And that's, what does TED stand for again? Is it

Alan (15m 42s):

TED is transepidermal delivery and it uses, okay, a technique called sonophoresis. Sonophoresis has been around, you know, for many, many decades, I'm talking like since the 1960s I think, or even maybe even before. Orthopedic surgeons used to use what they called phonophoresis, which was sound waves to push corticosteroids in and around the knee for inflammation, right? So there's this kind of technique has been around around, but not with the growth factors and peptides that we now know stimulate hair regrowth. So it's this magical combination of the, the technique of applying it without having to do an injection. And then, you know, using these growth factors and peptides right on the scalp that are potent, you know, like fibroblast growth factor, vascular endothelial, growth factor vegf and using copper peptide and thymosin beta four derivatives and things like that.

Alan (16m 33s):

Very, very powerful growth factors and peptides as along with amino acids and such in the, in that treatment. So you gotta come in for that treatment into the office. It takes about an hour, less than an hour, maybe half hour, once a month for four months to really see some improvements.

Brian (16m 49s):

That's what I was gonna ask. If it's an ongoing treatment, so typically the four months of treatment,

Alan (16m 56s):

Four months, and then, you know, we let it grow. Obviously, you know, we know that, for example, our PRP treatments, in contrast with a single treatment, 10 to 12 billion platelets, we're gonna get about a year's worth of growth out of that 10 to 14 months. With Ted, it's a little bit more unknown 'cause we just don't have as many patients through that process yet. But stay tuned. We're tracking everybody so we'll know, you know, do we need to repeat that package of series, if you will, before the end of the year? Or do people last a full year or longer? I think a lot of it depends on some of the other therapies that they might be doing. you know, pharmaceutical interventions, laser light as we mentioned before, or even hair transplantation of course. Hmm.

Brian (17m 34s):

And then what would you say some of the, like misconceptions around hair restoration are?

Alan (17m 40s):

I think probably the biggest misconception still remains, even the one that I had almost 30 years ago, is that hair transplants don't look right. That they don't look natural in some way, shape or form. That they're either pluggy looking or the hair lines aren't normal or natural, the hair doesn't grow in the right direction. And of course that depends on the technique, right? Or that they're very painful and invasive. And of course that's not the case as well. So with the newer techniques, we can take the individual grafts now one at a time from the back of the scalp without having to remove a strip of skin like the days of old. So there's no stitches or staples anymore with this newer technology. Of course, it's not equally distributed, but you know, there are many practices out there that still perform the old style linear harvest and that, and that's okay, that's what they're good at.

Alan (18m 25s):

But you know, for over 15 years, we haven't taken a strip procedure, we haven't taken a strip harvest in any procedure. We only do what we call FUE, follicular unit extraction. And so that gives me unique control over the angle, the orientation, the position of every graft, every follicle, therefore that goes into the scalp. So using an artistic eye, we can create a hairline that's soft and wavy. It's not a straight line or a wall of hair, you know, you can get those, you know, if you travel, you know, to foreign countries. Certainly there's a lot of that going on. And usually that those results are pretty bizarre looking, they're not normal natural hairlines. and we want to create a hairline that is undetectable, natural, something that doesn't look like it was contrived.

Alan (19m 8s):

And that's, you know, again, the technology of a no scalpel, no stitch harvesting. So there's no linear scar left to hide. And then the artistry in terms of hairline design and the implantation techniques to create the final results so that it blends and looks normal, it doesn't look weird. So I think that's a very common misconception. And also the pain control right now is a, is exceptional. I mean, most patients after the procedure, they don't even, they don't need a narcotic pain pill. Most patients will take a Tylenol or Motrin at night and that's really the end of it back in the gym in three days. Crusting is done in a week and they're back to a regular routine very quick.

Brian (19m 43s):

And how long would you say they have to wait to see some, some hair growth come in?

Alan (19m 47s):

Great question. So right after the healing is done, which is about a week or so, the skin is back to normal and the stubble we've implanted is shed. So you don't see anything for months on end. It takes about four to five months to start to see a little bit of growth coming in. And it happens slowly. It's not like all the grass in the yard comes up at the same time, you know, it happens little by little over time. And, what you'll see is by six months you'll see about 50% of the final result. But, it takes a full year to grow to 95%. So it is kind of a slow growing process. But remember those transplanted follicles are now going to be relatively permanent. They're gonna be unaffected by male pattern or female pattern hair loss.

Alan (20m 28s):

And whether we're putting 'em in the bald spot or the hairline, they'll live and grow there lasting they're, they'll be there for a long, long, long time. For sure.

Brian (20m 38s):

I'm curious, we talk a lot about routines on this podcast, like I'm a big morning and evening routine guy. I'm curious, just your, your lifestyle and And, what type of routines have you implemented into your life?

Alan (20m 50s):

Oh, for me personally? Well, yeah. Well, aside from my haircare and scalp care routine, you know, which I do like for my patients to tie to their circadian rhythm, by the way, we actually developing an app for that, that'll be based around my hair coaching program. So we'll have some, a hair coach app that you could have in your pocket that will help track your sleep, help you get better sleep, So, we reduce your stress, but also create that regimen because oftentimes treatments for hair, for example, are done in the evening and in the morning. And so like before bed, it might remind you to use your laser-like device, take your medications, whether it's fide or minoxidil, and then in the morning, remind you again, whatever you know, it is that your routine might be.

Alan (21m 32s):

Now me personally, you know, my routine on weekdays starts pretty early 5:00 AM you know, I'm up and at it and you know, I start out usually with a green drink and then coffee basically. I don't really have a, a breakfast meal other than the, that green drink. And then usually I'll have my first snack, it's somewhere between one and two o'clock. So having, you know, fasted really overnight from about seven or eight o'clock at night. So mostly a 16 eight window is kind of what I'm looking at most days, you know, but it, it just varies on the weekends, kind of anything goes, you know, if it's, I wanna be more social, then obviously, you know, a brunch may be included in the weekend activities.

Alan (22m 17s):

But I'm at the office by six o'clock. We operate every day, Monday through Friday, usually handling one to three cases per day in addition to the full cohort of, of consults and surgery consults and follow ups that we do. But I also have some help. I have my team of surgical technicians who will assist me with these long and labor intensive procedures. These laborers of love, as we say.

Brian (22m 39s):

How long do the procedures normally take? Yep. How?

Alan (22m 42s):

Well patients are usually in the office for a surgical procedure during the day, about six to eight hours, you know, in the chair. And then there's breaks for lunch and restroom and such. We give them some snacks and so forth. You can watch some movies, listen to music by the end of the day, you know, the team might be doing some karaoke. It just depends, but it's a pretty comfortable day. The, you know, most, most of our professionals are pretty psyched to have like, you know, a day where they just have to sit and do nothing, you know, not have to worry about much. Then you can answer, obviously text messages on your phone or watch something on iPad if you want. But we've got, you know, big TV LCD screens in the operating rooms and such for comfort.

Brian (23m 19s):

Hmm. Very

Alan (23m 21s):

Cool. Very cool. So many, some cases actually go multiple days. So, they might go two to three days long depending on whether we're harvesting just beard or scalp or scalp and beard as well. 'cause we do use a lot of beard in the practice. A lot of our patients have had depleted density from their donor zone, from old style procedures performed elsewhere and are looking for a, an alternative source of donor. And so one of my specialties is using beard transplantation, taking the beard follicles and applying those into the scalp and where appropriately needed to increase density and coverage up there.

Brian (23m 56s):

Interesting. Awesome. And yeah, go ahead.

Alan (23m 60s):

I was just gonna say, you know, some of the other specialty cases that we handle, eyebrow transplantation is a big part of the practice, both for men and women. Eyebrows frame the eye, make you look younger for women, an aesthetic shape to the eyebrow is obviously very, very important for framing the eye and the face. And then eyelash transplants are also a big part of the practice, probably one of the only surgeons in North America that routinely does eyelash transplantation on a regular basis.

Brian (24m 26s):

Interesting. And you and Bauman Medical Group, and you're in, sorry, Boca, right?

Alan (24m 33s):

Correct. Well, Bauman Medical was established in Boca. I I came down to Boca in 1997 to build the practice, to start the office. And we've been in Boca Raton for over 25 years.

Brian (24m 45s):

Wonderful. And if you were gonna give a, this high question, I ask a lot of guests, if you were gonna give one tip to an individual and they were looking to get, let's just say their body or their mind back to what it once was, what, what would you, what one tip would you give that individual,

Alan (24m 58s):

Their body or mind? Well, I think, you know, some people ask, well, what's your favorite Biohack doc? And I have to say gratitude is the number one thing. I mean, it's free, you know, it sometimes takes some practice if you're not used to being thankful for things. you know, obviously, you know, here in our part of the world in America, we have a day for Thanksgiving. And so, you know, that's a day of gratitude. But I think it, you know, part of my routine that you asked about was, you know, being mindful about gratitude at least once or twice a day would be a good smart way to start things. Of course, I sleep hack, I mean, you know, I've been wearing an ora ring for five years. I got the, the Gen I or a ring. I'm really keen on trying to fix my sleep.

Alan (25m 38s):

I think it, it helps in so many different areas of my life. I try to protect my sleep very well. I try to, you know, wind down, get out, get offload and away from screens appropriately after dark if I can. Not always so help, not always so possible, you know, in the modern age of, of running a business and presenting internationally and things like that. But I do my very, very best to try to protect sleep, I think. And I encourage my patients to do the same. I think it's really important for health and wellness, for mental function, physical function and recovery. I mean, if our bodies can recover better, then we're gonna perform better and we'll be able to stretch and even enhance our abilities, both mentally, physically, and, and, and hopefully, you know, put more, you know, not just years in our life, but more life in our years, you know?

Brian (26m 25s):

Yeah, no, I love that. I mean, prioritizing sleep is like probably the number one principle I'd say that most of the time we talk about on this podcast, so Wow. Yeah, that, that, that resonates a ton. Well, this was great. What, yeah, go ahead.

Alan (26m 41s):

I was gonna say my sleep hero is Matthew Walker. you know, he's always been able to clarify elucidate how important sleep is. And I feel like, you know, having been a surgical resident, you know, in my early stages of the career and working 140 hours a week and all of that, that may have had a, a strong impact and really accelerating aging even though, you know, we were more resilient at that age when we started. Right. you know, I think that had a, a strong impact on my ability to kind of wind it down. So I don't, I don't know what the permanent effects of that were or are or if I was just, you know, genetically programmed maybe not to sleep as well as somebody else, but definitely something that I try to work on.

Brian (27m 18s):

Yeah. And, and like you said, winding down, getting away from screens a few hours before bed. I mean, those are, those are, those are big. And even some type of meditative practice, you know, it doesn't have to be a long meditation, right. Like 10 minutes can, can, can help as well.

Alan (27m 34s):

Absolutely. Internally, you know, focusing your, your stuff internally, you know, maybe shutting out the world for just a moment and Right. Like you said, you know, six or 12 minutes, I mean, can really reset your system And, you know, and I would, I would certainly encourage breath work with that meditation to kind of reset the mode. you know, I think that's probably the quickest way to change your mode, you know, from, from activity to relaxation, you know, is just, is breath work really.

Brian (28m 1s):

And I noticed y on your, I don't know if it's a website or your, your, your one pager. You got Dave aspr. Is that someone that you've met through the years or just

Alan (28m 11s):

Oh yeah. So Dave Asprey, I've been a, a big fan of Dave since 2016. We met at the American Academy anti-Aging. He was keynoting on Bulletproof Coffee, I think at around that time, maybe even a couple years before that probably. And, you know, that kind of changed to my dietary regimen, giving up kind of this big heavy protein and carb shake in the morning, which was supposed to keep me full all the way through, you know, lunch, never did, by the way, spiking my glucose probably or whatever. But so Bulletproof Coffee was really one of my first biohacks, I think one of the first things that I did to kind of change, you know, my nutritional regimen and that helped me get into intermittent fasting and then eventually into three or three and five day water fasting occasionally.

Alan (28m 57s):

But Dave eventually became a patient at Bauman Medical. He's one of our most public patients well known in the sphere of health and wellness, obviously as a New York Times bestseller, And, you know, all of his followers there, you know, through social media and his podcast, obviously one of the most prolific Podcasts for health and wellness. And so when he came in for his hair transplant, we talked about, you know, what he wanted in terms of a hairline and he went through a whole scalp makeover process with my Trichology team, and then we put him through the hair transplant process to restore the hairline and put him on a path to maintain, enhance and restore his hair so that he could look amazing when he turns 180.

Brian (29m 38s):


Alan (29m 38s):

Right. But so, so Dave is, you know, know is I'm a big fan and you know, of course as a patient of mine who's very public about his results, And what he accomplished with it, you know, has been very, very helpful to us to help others who are kind of contemplating, you know, maybe going through a hair transplant procedure but don't really know what it's all about. So, they can look up Dave's experience and his story and how he went through it, and also how he recovered basically in half the time as a normal patient. you know, as you can imagine, he knows how to biohack it, right? Yeah,

Brian (30m 10s):

Yeah, no, no doubt. And so where's the best place for people to find and learn more about bomb medical?

Alan (30m 17s):

Yeah, the, the, the most important thing to do, if someone is out there and they think that they're either at risk for hair loss or they've seen it personally, either in the shower, in the drain, or they're looking at themselves in the mirror with a receding hairline, less coverage of the scalp for the women or men with long hair weaker ponytail volume or some kind of a change to their hair that they don't like, the most important thing to do is to start early, take action. Don't wait, because early intervention is always gonna be profoundly more impactful when it started, you know, sooner rather than later. Obviously that early intervention is, is critical. So you can go on the website at Bauman medical.com, B-A-U-M-A-N medical.com.

Alan (30m 58s):

You can find me on all, all the social media platforms too. But if you go to the website, there's thousands of pages of information that I've personally written over the past 25 years, all about hair loss. There's hundreds of hours of videos, I promise you, you won't get bored of those if you're interested in hair. And of course, you know, dozens of Podcasts and interviews, interviews in the, in the media as well as traditional media, as well as electronic media. So you can kind of get a handle on how things have changed over time. But then the next most important step is to schedule that consultation. And even if you're not local to South Florida, we can start your hair restoration journey through a virtual consultation. Just like I'm talking to you today, Brian, on Zoom.

Alan (31m 38s):

We do every single day start patients with their journey, learning about their situation, looking at their photos, examining their hair through virtual consultations. And nearly 50% of my patients will start their journey through that virtual consult from their home or phone. But of course, if you're coming down to South Florida, you wanna make a visit to us. We've got a 12,000 square foot facility, 35 team members to help you and me, of course, as long as well as lots of technology to help measure your hair, to track your hair loss over time, make sure you're getting great results no matter what. you know, you've gotta take a strong action early, get measurements, get benchmarked, and then put a sophisticated plan together, you know, whether that's regenerative or non-invasive or surgical, you know, let's, let's figure out what you need and get you to the end of that journey.

Brian (32m 28s):

Excellent. Excellent. Well, I appreciate you coming out and, and maybe this is enlightened some people to take a look if they, they wanna learn more about you or if there's some group in their area that they wanna check out and learn more about. But I'll put Links in the show notes for, you know, obviously everything you do. So I appreciate you, you coming on the podcast today and sharing all this knowledge.

Alan (32m 48s):

Well, Brian, it's really been great and hopefully we can impart that information to your listeners, your followers. And like I said, if anybody has a question at any time, you can always reach me through social media or even like I said at Bauman medical.com/ask, and you can just ask your question about hair loss right there and get ahold of me, and of course I'll respond through my team and, and get you information that you need. But, it's been great to be with you, Brian. Thank you so much for having me.

Brian (33m 11s):

Yeah, thanks Alan, for coming on. Thanks for listening to the GETLEAN E Clean podcast. I understand there are millions of other Podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine and I appreciate that. Check out the show notes@briangrin.com for everything that was mentioned, In, this episode. Feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member that's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again and have a great day.

Dr. Alan Bauman

Dr. Alan J. Bauman, MD, ABHRS, IAHRS, FISHRS is a full-time hair transplant surgeon who founded his medical practice in Boca Raton, Florida in 1997 and has treated over 30,000 patients and performed over 10,000 hair transplant surgeries to date. His compassionate, patient-centered philosophy and individualized artistic approach to protecting, enhancing and restoring the appearance and health of the hair and scalp is what sets him apart from non-specialists and other practitioners. Dr. Bauman moved to Boca Raton with his wife Karen after receiving his M.D. degree from New York Medical College, doing his surgical residency training at Mt. Sinai Medical Center and Beth Israel Medical Center in Manhattan, and completing his hair transplant Fellowship training in New York.

Dr. Bauman is one of only approximately 200 physicians worldwide to achieve certification from the esteemed American and International Board of Hair Restoration Surgery (ABHRS), be an accepted member of the International Alliance of Hair Restoration Surgeons (IAHRS) and also recommended by the American Hair Loss Association. Dr. Bauman achieved the coveted Fellow status within the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery (FISHRS) and is a frequently invited faculty member at numerous international scientific meetings, live surgery workshops, and major beauty industry events.


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