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Interview with Craig Brockie: Clean up Your Gut, Ultimate Health and Weight Loss Peptides!

June 10, 2024 in Podcast


This week I interviewed the best selling author of Ultimate Health - Craig Brockie!

In this episode, we discuss how Craig overcame Candida and turned around his health along with:

  • the issue with the depletion of our soil
  • his probiotic yogurt maker
  • his experience with weight loss peptides
  • importance of cleaning up your gut
and his one tip to get your body back to what it once was!

Brian (0s):

Coming up on the GET, LEAN, Eat, Clean Podcast.

Craig (4s):

You know, and I think I saw this in one of your videos, is, is taking things on a gradient, not expecting to change overnight to being like from having a bad habits to all of a sudden having perfect habits, but just slowly improve And. what I find is, as you Clean up Your Gut and you start cleaning out your liver and your kidneys and all these organs, your body just gets more nat more healthy, and it, it actually starts craving good foods so it gets easier. You don't crave that Big Mac and that bag of chips and the, you know, all the junk food.

Brian (39s):

Hello. and welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. I'm Brian Gryn and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was, five, 10, even 15 years ago. Each week I'll give you an in depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you sustainable results. This week I interviewed the best selling author of Ultimate Health, Greg Brock. we discuss how Craig overcame Candida and turned around his health, along with the issue with the depletion of our soil, his probiotic yogurt maker, his experience with weight loss peptides, the importance of cleaning up your gut and his one tip to get your body back to what it once was.

Brian (1m 20s):

Really enjoyed my interview with Craig. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All, right Welcome to the Get Lean Eat Clean podcast. My name is Brian Gryn and I have Craig Bian. Welcome to the show. Hey,

Craig (1m 34s):

Brian, great to be here. Thanks for having me.

Brian (1m 37s):

Yeah. Bestselling author of The Ultimate Health Break Free From Your Health Issues and Live Your Best Life. As you can tell from the background, if you're watching on YouTube

Craig (1m 47s):


Brian (1m 47s):

Right. You haven't aged a bit.

Craig (1m 49s):

Hey man. Well, actually I lost my health when I was 21 years old and I was actually in a lot worse condition. That was 30 years ago, almost 29 years ago, and I actually feel much, much better today. Used to have chronic pain, chronic anxiety, and my immune system was shot. I was sick all the time. Life was just not fun for me. Back then, And, now here I am at age 50 and feeling fantastic, pain free, symptom free, and just wanted to share that with everybody.

Brian (2m 16s):

Yeah. And so that was, you know, three decades ago. What, what prompted you or what sort of led you down the path of health? Obviously you were struggling a bit and, and who, who, who did you lean on to help you?

Craig (2m 28s):

Yeah, well, I tried conventional medicine and the traditional doctors like western doctors, your regular run of the mill doctors, I think they're all great. Well-intentioned people, I just think their toolkit isn't as robust as it could be. And I happened to meet a massage therapist, believe it or not, and he was into Qigong, which is a Chinese breathing energy thing, and he did this really deep tissue massage that was extremely painful, to be quite honest, because I was dealing with chronic pain. And he would go really deep and he taught me, basically, he said what he did for me would be 10% And. what I did for myself would be 90%. And then he put me onto naturopathic medicine.

Craig (3m 11s):

And that was just a game changer for me. I, I did a, a few different tests and I found out that I was too acidic, that I had a leaky gut and I had fungal overgrowth, a fungus called candida, and just completely trashes your system when you're eating, when your, when your gut leaks. And I think anyone with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue or a myriad of other symptoms or diseases should definitely get your gut checked out because if your gut's gone wrong, and most people have some, some sort of gut issue these days because we're eating, you know, GMO foods that have glyphosate or roundup on them, maybe taking antibiotics, which is my case, that was the problem. Or just too much sugar, the birth control pill, there's all stress, all these things, even artificial sweeteners can destroy your, your gut and all, all these things were, it was just like a perfect storm of what was going on with me.

Craig (4m 7s):

And I learned that if I just healed my gut and my anxiety went away. A lot of people don't know this, but your neurotransmitters are actually produced in your gut, so a healthy gut can actually make you feel better in terms of your anxiety and your happiness. And so everything just turned around for me as soon as I started addressing my gut. And I worked with Dr. Warren Soff. He wrote the, the, the forward for my book. He turned, turned my life around. He's in Vancouver, Canada. Great doctor. He runs the Vancouver Naturopathic Clinic there.

Brian (4m 40s):

Wow, wonderful. And how long did you go down that path? Like when did you start feeling like you were, you were like yourself again?

Craig (4m 47s):

Well, I mean, the anxiety was probably the first thing to improve as I, what I found was as soon, the first thing he, Dr. Lauren does is he always address, or Dr. Takoff, his first name's Lauren. The first thing he always addresses is the candida yeast overgrowth. 'cause right. Almost one for one, every patient that comes in his door has too much candida yeast overgrowth in their system. And so as soon as I knock that down, he gives you basically pills that are naturopath, natural herbal pills that knock that out. And then like as soon as he, I started doing that, immediately my anxiety improved, which was fantastic for, 'cause for me it was just like waking up every morning with anxiety.

Craig (5m 30s):

Just, you know, living in fear just is really not fun. And I'm sure some of your audience can relate to that or have experienced that before. But then, then it just became a passion for me. And over the last 30 years, I've traveled all over the world. I spent over well over a million dollars of my own money researching advanced performance and health enhancing technologies. And it is just become a passion for me and I just want like, to be the best I can be. And yeah, that's, that's what it's all about for me.

Brian (5m 60s):

Wow. So you, you've, you spent money on d different research studies around this area?

Craig (6m 5s):

Not particular studies, but actually experiencing the things myself. So like for instance, I used to fly down to Mexico to get these blood ozone treatments that no one was offering in the United States. Nowadays some people do. In fact, here in Clearwater, there's two machines here, it's called Ebu. And it super saturates your blood with ozone gas and runs it through a filter and it's like nothing else you can experience. It's like it's next level healthcare. Wow. But at the time, no doctors in the US would take the risk 'cause it's not an FDA approved technology.

Brian (6m 42s):

Hmm. Wow. And when did you, when did you learn about that technology?

Craig (6m 48s):

Well, I started getting into ozone. Dr. Sweat lakoff got me into, what you call it, peroxide, hydrogen peroxide treatments. So your immune system actually produces hydrogen peroxide, believe it or not. And hydrogen peroxide is just a water molecule, which is H2O with an extra oxygen atom on it. So it's H2O two and that extra oxygen atom is highly reactive. So a lot of first aid kits used to come with hydrogen peroxide in them. And if you had a cut, you would just, you would put a little hydrogen peroxide on the cut and it would bubble up and get white, white and fizzy.

Craig (7m 29s):

And that's that extra oxygen reacting with it. But you're actually, your immune system, your white blood cells, when they encounter something that's not supposed to be in your, in your blood or in your body, they, your white blood cells re react and release hydrogen peroxide. So these oxygen therapies are very powerful. And, and then that got me into all researching peroxide and Dr. Sweat lakoff use a smaller ozone treatment with me called auto hemotherapy. And that's where they take about a pint of blood out of your arm and then infuse it with ozone gas, which kills anything that's in there. And it also creates great antibodies, natural antibodies.

Craig (8m 11s):

So when you, and then you take that back in your arm by an iv and so that's, that's a great treatment. Then I was like, wow, what else can I do? And so I ended up meeting this guy and he knew this doctor who's doing EBU down in Mexico, and I was like, let's go. It's just, it's just fun stuff. I love just being on the, the cutting edge of medical science and right now what's going on with peptides and stem cells and gene therapy is just over the top. I think you and I can live to 120 and be playing sports in our eighties. And I, I think that's totally doable.

Brian (8m 46s):

Yeah, I mean there is the technology nowadays and, and I love how the growth of like the whole naturopathic industry is like, it's growing. I mean obviously there's, there's, there's mainstream, you know, your general practitioner, I think there's a like, obviously there's a place for that, but Yeah, but like you said, I think like, especially when it comes to gut health, I think there's still a lot of research to be done. But like I just went through some certifications one through FDN and we, we, we looked at like the GI map where, you know, you can see if you have candida or any overgrowths or viruses or things like that that are, have overtaken your gut.

Brian (9m 27s):

And like you said, you know, if the gut's not intact, you know, that mucosal barrier is that, if that's sort of like that leaky gut. Yeah. you know, if there's, if it's inflamed, then, you know, causing inflammation and, and food intolerances. I mean it's amazing nowadays just the environment. Totally, yeah. The environmental factors that are involved with all of that, even just,

Craig (9m 50s):

Yeah. So many people are gluten intolerant these days. Now I would argue that they're probably glyphosate intolerant. Right. But I, so I cut you off. I'm sorry, Brian.

Brian (9m 58s):

No, no, that, that's what I was gonna say. It's like there's anything from like antibiotics like you mentioned. Was that your big issue?

Craig (10m 6s):

I took antibiotics in high school. I was starting to get acne and I was feeling really introverted about it and self-conscious. Mm. And I wanted to look my best And, you know, I heard about tetracycline, which is an antibiotic, and I asked my doctor for it. He agreed to do it. He suggested only a six month course. I pushed him to do 18 months 'cause I didn't wanna deal with acne. And quite frankly, six months was probably enough to ruin me. But 18 was definitely enough to ruin me because I was just in, in really rough shape. I just wanna hold up one. Yeah. I don't have a lot of images in my book, but let's see if I can get this a little bit closer. Yeah. But this is actually what across section of your small intestine looks like.

Craig (10m 49s):

So you can see these, these kind of finger things over here. Yeah. Those are called vli. Right. And so basically in your small intestine, it's not just a tube like this, like your small intestine isn't a tube like this, it's like this, or sorry, I'm, I'm on mirror here. That's okay. So

Brian (11m 8s):

Yeah, it's like, it's like

Craig (11m 10s):

Everything's opposite. Okay.

Brian (11m 11s):

Boom. That it's almost like a bunch of fingers. Yeah. Like,

Craig (11m 14s):

Yeah. So all the surface area here. So what happens is candida gets in there and it starts coating all your vli and that's where you're supposed to be absorbing your nutrients from. Right. So then all of a sudden you can't absorb the vitamins. And that's a whole other issue because, you know, the agricultural industry stopped putting minerals on the soil decades ago, and it's just been spraying chemicals and ch chemical fertilizers. So the, the soil is deplete of minerals and plants can make vitamins, but they can't make minerals. And so we're all very mineral deficient for the most part, unless you're using, I I saw one of your videos, you were telling people to take spring water and put mineral drops in it.

Craig (11m 58s):

And that's perfect advice because, you know, it's very important because we're so depleted in minerals these days.

Brian (12m 5s):

It's interesting you bring that up. I'm actually gonna do another video on the importance of like these trace minerals that, you know, you're not getting from your water. I think people think if they're drinking water that they're hydrating themselves and Right. A lot of times that water just, it actually flushes things out. But it almost, it could dehydrate you tech typically, or it could, if, if you're not getting, like for example, obviously magnesium is a big one, but yeah, no, there are some great products that, you know, these trace minerals that you can just drop in your water and

Craig (12m 39s):

Yeah, I use one called Constant Trace. I have no, no commercial interest in it, but I've been using it for years. It's called Constant Trace comes in a little like eight ounce bottle and you just have to put a few drops of that. And I don't know if anyone's ever tasted Evian bottled water. It's one of the original bottled waters from France and it's got a bit of more of a mineral taste to it. But you know, you can go overboard with it and it tastes kind of bad, but Yeah.

Brian (13m 4s):

Or you can,

Craig (13m 4s):

You can use different, different salts can have a lot of min trace minerals in 'em. Yeah.

Brian (13m 10s):

Yeah. There's like a quality sea salt.

Craig (13m 11s):


Brian (13m 13s):

So now are, are you spending most of your time just getting out there talking about your book, the Ultimate Health and, and just trying to spread the word?

Craig (13m 22s):

Yeah, I mean, I'm an entrepreneur but I also love helping people. I, I'm very charitable too. I donate hundreds of thousands of dollars every year. 'cause I, I really feel like, you know, we're at a turning point for humanity right now. And things can either go down the tubes or we can turn things around. And I'm, I'm of the belief if we get enough people believing that we can turn things around, we will turn things around. So I'm, I'm pushing big on that. And I do have some products that are aligned with these interests. I have the number one selling probiotic yogurt maker on Amazon. There's a great book called Super Gut by New York Times number one bestselling author. I, I think you interviewed him, didn't you? Yeah, Dr. William Davis.

Craig (14m 2s):

Yeah. I love Dr. Davis. He actually came down down to Clearwater for my 50th birthday party a few weeks ago. Oh great. Absolutely happy

Brian (14m 13s):

Birthday guy.

Craig (14m 14s):

Yeah, thank you. He's, he is an amazing man. And just the depth of research he's put into gut health. I mean, Dr. Gundry is another, I really respect Dr. Mercola, Dr. Berg, there's so many guys out there sharing great information. But in particular, Dr. Davis, he realized that, as you know, because you interviewed him, if you take a probiotic capsule, and a lot of people don't know this, but different probiotics have different purposes. There's probiotics that can help with your mood and anxiety and depression. There's ones that can help with GLP one, which is the hormone that is, you've heard of Ozempic and Wegovy and Semaglutide, and there's actually ones that'll help produce GLP one in your gut because that's where it's supposed to come from.

Craig (14m 60s):

So I, I personally like those peptides, but I think if a person can heal their gut first And, you know, get their natural production of GLP one up, that's obviously ideal. 'cause you want that long term and you don't wanna be dependent on drugs. But there's just all, and then there's ones that will knock out small intestinal bacterial overgrowth or sibo. There's ones that will knock out SI o which is what really I had back in the day with the too much candida yeast, but there's different probiotic strains and species. And Dr. Davis wrote a whole book on that. It's excellent. And I was really inspired by it. And I wanted to get into that industry and help as many people and spread the word word.

Craig (15m 42s):

So I actually called up Dr. Davis one day and I was like, Hey, I'm developing this probiotic yogurt maker and I wondered if you had a few minutes. And he was like, oh, sure, Craig, what do you wanna know? And he helped guide me down the path of what should, like a good probiotic yogurt maker should have. So I put all those good things into our model And. now it's the number one bestseller on Amazon. So if you go to Amazon and type in yogurt maker or probiotic yogurt maker, you'll see the number one bestseller badge. That's my product. And then we add some other cool products that I think are really important to people's health. But, but mainly, like I wrote, I wrote a precursor to this book back in 2008 called Take Control of Your Health. And at the time I was retired, I was financially secure, had no financial interest, I was just trying to help people And.

Craig (16m 29s):

what inspired me honestly was back then I knew how to be healthy and how to help others be healthy. But one of my employees at the time, his dad was dying of cancer. And I was, I sat down with him and his father and I was really trying to educate him about cancer And what causes cancer and how you can get rid of cancer and heal it and potentially cure cancer. I mean, that's been done many, many times in the past with natural means. And it was just going in one ear and out the other. And I realized I had no altitude with this guy. I'm not a doctor. So I thought, well, maybe if I write a health book that will help some people who are willing to consider different ideas. And that's what take control of your health was all about.

Craig (17m 11s):

And then I just didn't know how to promote it. I didn't have any products or anything, any commercial interest in it. So it didn't really go anywhere. I didn't know about podcasts and all that kind of stuff. So it just kind of fell by the wayside. And here I am in 2024, I feel fantastic at age 50 and I have a health brand and I know so much about being healthy. I was like, let's upgrade this book. Let's call it Ultimate Health and let's, let's take it to the next level. Because what I've learned since 2008 is so crazy. And there's all these cool technologies with stem cells and peptides, And, you know, gene therapies. It's just, it's a whole new world. Now

Brian (17m 49s):

What type of like healthy habits have you sort of implemented over the last few decades? Let's say that, you know, you're in your fifties now, but what, what sort of things have you implemented into your life that have made it a big impact?

Craig (18m 2s):

Hmm. Right, okay. Well I do a lot of counseling to make sure I'm happy and not stressed out. And my church offers a lot of great services in that regard. So that really helped me a lot personally on a personal level. But in terms of diet, I found that more low carb, high protein has helped me personally. Excuse me. But honestly, I used to fluctuate with my weight quite a bit. I've, I've fluctuated 50 pounds up and down in my adult life. So I, I got as light as one 90 once and I got as heavy as 2 45, excuse me, 55 pounds.

Craig (18m 43s):

So for me, I think I was kind of insulin resistant and had some issues with that. So I actually have taken weight loss peptides and I really love them. And I've taken dozens of peptides. If you want go down a rabbit hole, we can talk about peptides because they're extremely powerful, effective, and you and some really cool ones.

Brian (19m 5s):

And when you said you've taken 'em, is this this orally or how do you take peptides?

Craig (19m 9s):

Most peptides are injectable like ozempic for instance. But there's ones that will help you boost human growth hormone. There's others that will help enhance testosterone production instead of, for instance, TRT or testosterone replacement therapy where you're actually taking the hormone. There's ones that can help stimulate testosterone production. There's actually a drug also called in clomophine that helps increase your production testosterone level. That's a huge issue. Now I, don't know if you have any of your coaching clients do blood panels, but testosterone is really low on men these days. There seems to be like a war on testosterone, soy products, plastics, stress cell phones, like holding a cell phone in your front pocket without any kind of protection.

Craig (19m 59s):

I don't recommend that. There's actually, there's actually EMF, they're called electromagnetic field, EMF. You don't want EMFs hitting your, your, your reproductive organs 24 7. So you can actually get underwear that shields that. And there's,

Brian (20m 16s):

I have, I have a phone. Yeah, co. Yeah. Case, yeah, let's see if I

Craig (20m 20s):

Can, oh yeah, that's called safe space. Yeah, I used to have one of those also. Yeah. So there's, there's definitely solutions at the things that can help for sure. But in terms of lifestyle, yeah, obviously exercise is important. Yet I'm still kinda lazy. I actually pay my employees to go to the gym twice a week just to get, keep them fit and myself fit. And I use a trainer also and I just, I know I do things, I try not to keep any junk food in the house. 'cause my SelfControl isn't that good.

Brian (20m 50s):

Yeah, actually I, I did a video on that, like when it comes to junk food around the house, I'm like, you know, actually it hasn't come out yet, but we, I talked, I've talked about it before, but just having like could like understanding that like you can do a pantry purge or a refrigerator purge and just like make sure that you don't have those, those things that aren't serving you. you know, 'cause then, right. 'cause then you, you avoid the temptation altogether.

Craig (21m 15s):

Right. And in my book, I mentioned a whole bunch of different snacks that are actually healthy low carb noodles, for instance, they're called she attacky noodles. They're, I'll warn you, they're not nearly as tasty as the real deal, but they give you that sensation of eating pasta. So shiitake noodles, shi rice are good, obviously vegetables are good. And what I tell people is that, you know, and I think I saw this in one of your videos is, is taking things on a gradient. Not expecting to change overnight to being like from having a bad habits to all of a sudden having perfect habits, but just slowly improve And. what I find is as you Clean up Your Gut and you start cleaning out your liver and your kidneys and all these organs, your body just gets more nat more healthy.

Craig (22m 2s):

And it, it actually starts craving good foods. So it gets easier. You don't crave that Big Mac and that bag of chips and the, you know, all the junk food and you actually want to eat a carrot and things like that, that you probably might not at this moment be, you know, interested in.

Brian (22m 22s):

Yeah. And so as far as gut is concerned, what, what have you been like retesting down the road? Like once you sort of started some of the, the natural, like I know you were taking some probiotics and things like that. Do you, do you re have you retested or just to see if it's gone? Yeah, yeah,

Craig (22m 42s):

Yeah. There's a great clinic here in, in Clearwater, one of the best doctors in the US as far as I'm concerned, in terms of integrative medicine. His name's Dr. David Minkoff. And they do very, very thorough testing. So I just did that a few months ago. And, what turned out the highest problem that I had was mold actually, which is not surprising because my AC system was just riddled with mold last year. And for the several years prior to that, I only learned about it last year. So I, that's another thing I mentioned in the book is check out your HVAC system, your AC system, and have it inspected because there's a lot of condensation that builds up in those things.

Craig (23m 26s):

And then when they get hot and cold, well more hot when they get hot, like when the system's off and it's wet and it's, and it's hot. Like that is a perfect environment for mold to fester basically. And then you start breathing that day in and day out. Fortunately, I didn't have any symptoms because probably I'm speculating, but probably because of all the healthy things I do for myself, I personally wasn't experiencing any problems. But when I did this blood test, I believe it was a blood test, it might have been a urine test that I did so many tests, excuse me. But one of the tests showed that I had really bad mold issues. So Ray, at this moment I'm taking something that knocks up mold and I'm also taking charcoal capsules at night.

Craig (24m 12s):

And just like charcoal, you can use that to cleanse water and clean out water. You can also take the charcoal internally and that's a good thing to do. I think enzymes, digestive enzymes are really good to take when your gut is challenged or is repairing. And if anyone's having gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, any of those things or bad breath, like there's a lot of these indications that something gone wrong with your digestion, acid reflux, all these things are super easy to turn around and, and heal. I explain each one in my book in simple, simple terms.

Craig (24m 54s):

Like in a paragraph you'll learn how to deal with acid reflux. I don't know, have you ever talked about acid reflux? 'cause I could just tell your audience now.

Brian (25m 3s):

Yeah, we can, we can get in. I was also gonna say you can even like talk about issues as well, like people who have eczema Yeah. And skin issues, rosacea. Yeah. That could be gut. Gut.

Craig (25m 13s):

That's interesting. 'cause I'm, I'm a Amazon seller. I've been selling on Amazon since 2015 and a lot of my friends sell beauty products and health creams and so on. And some have been selling eczema creams or I call it eczema. Eczema. I, I don't know the right pronunciation of it. I've heard it both ways. And psoriasis I think is the other one. But what those are is fungal infections. That's topical fungal infections. And so what I suggested to my friend and I was like, Hey man, it is great that you have a good product that people can put on topically, but why don't you educate them about getting the, the, the fungus out of their, the inside of their body so that it's not just manifesting on the outside.

Craig (25m 56s):

Because I can guarantee if you have psoriasis, eczema, any of that stuff visible on your skin, the inside of your body is just a mess with fungal over overgrowth. So by, by handling the candida primarily in your gut, you can knock down and reduce eczema. I mean, there could be food intolerances that you're also being, you're consuming or food allergies that you're hitting. And there's a really good blood test called IMU Pro, I-M-U-P-R-O, IMU Pro. And that will tell you what foods to avoid while your gut's healing. And the good news is that you may only need a few weeks off of these foods while you heal your gut.

Craig (26m 36s):

And then you can, you can tolerate them again in a lot of cases. So it's not like, oh, I'll have to eat a strict diet forever. It's, it's quite promising that you can just avoid these foods that are aggravating the f outta your system and causing so much inflammation. Just get those out for a little bit and then heal your gut and then clean out your liver and And, you know, get everything working properly and soon, like when your liver is messed up. That leads to allergies too. I mean, they, the, all these things connect.

Brian (27m 8s):

Yeah. And, and maybe elaborate, you were gonna talk a little bit about acid reflux. There's a, a part of the book that you

Craig (27m 14s):

Yeah, I I I'm just kind of bouncing around. I just wanted to give, I don't wanna just lead people on and just say, yeah, buy my book, buy my book, buy my book here. Like, just tease them. I want to give 'em content that's actionable. But acid reflux, typically people take roll rolaids or Tums or antacids to, to, to cut that down. Right. But what it is usually, like, there's two main reasons I think people get acid reflux. One is a low acidity problem. So you actually need high acidity in your stomach and high levels of enzymes when you eat food. So it can break it down properly.

Craig (27m 55s):

And it's when it doesn't break it down properly that it starts to back up. So taking antacids is probably the worst thing you can do. And there's another thing, there's a, there's a sphincter right at the top here. And when people feel that acid reflux coming up is that sphincter sometimes doesn't close fully. And there's actually a genetic test. There's a website, 10 x health.com Grant Cardone's group, Gary Breca are the founders and 10 X Health, they'll do, they do a, a gene test actually that will tell you if you have a particular genetic mutation that makes you susceptible to that sphincter not closing. And if it does, there's very specific B vitamins that you need to avoid and specific B vitamins that you need to take.

Craig (28m 40s):

And then furthermore, a friend of mine, he knew all this stuff and he still had a problem. He actually had a surgery where they put a little elastic, elastic pincher over that, over that sphincter because his body was able to open it. But not to close it, So, they actually did a surgical procedure where they put a little thing that would just clamp down Wow. And close it off for him. So I mean that's, that's an extreme case. But I think just by what I tell people when you're eating food and at mealtime is avoid as much liquid as possible because when you're drinking liquid, no matter, even if it's water, you're actually diluting the enzymes and, and stomach acid.

Craig (29m 24s):

So it's, if your digestion's challenge, you know, another thing you can take is something called apple cider vinegar. It's, it's best if it's raw and it's unpasteurized. 'cause then it'll have lots of enzymes in it also. But if you take an ounce of that in some water, like a small amount of that before you eat a meal, that increases the acidity in your stomach. And, and if you take digestive enzymes at the same time with your meal, I think all those things can really knock down acid reflux.

Brian (29m 54s):

Hmm. What, what's one thing you've, you've changed your mind on in the past 10 years?

Craig (30m 3s):

Wow. Okay. 10 years. Hmm. Can we come back to that? I don't know if I have a a good answer for

Brian (30m 12s):

You. That's fine. Yeah, no problem. I know I caught you because I changed

Craig (30m 16s):

My mind in the, maybe

Brian (30m 16s):

I caught you by surprise,

Craig (30m 17s):

That's for sure. 'cause I, I fully believed in traditional medicine. I, I want people to know that I was fully bought into drugs and surgery until I had a problem that I could not solve with drugs and surgery. So that's what, that was the original, the original shift. And then, but in the last 10 years, I don't know. I mean, obviously there's lots of, lots of things, but related to health,

Brian (30m 42s):

Well, even, it doesn't even have to be in the last 10 years. It could be in the last 30 years, you know what, but, but you mentioned one, like you, you sort of, you were fully reliant on, on sort of the western medicine,

Craig (30m 54s):

Right? Yeah. And, you know, when I could be generalizing here, but I think when we're younger, we feel like we're invincible and we're, we're so far away from death in terms of chronological age at least, right. That we tend to not put a lot of focus on our, on our health. But I think today the way things are with like the food system is so po the food system is poisonous. I'm just gonna say that. Like, glyphosate is killing people. And that's just one of many, many toxins that's in the food supply. And on, on top of that, just treating things with drugs and hiding symptoms just does not handle the cause of the issue.

Craig (31m 37s):

So you just, you know, it's like trying to put on a fire with like cups of water or something like that. It's just that fire is still burning and it's just gonna come back and be worse. So things of that nature are pretty clear to me now that maybe weren't 30 years ago, that's for sure. 'cause back then I was like, oh, I can drink soda all day long. Not all day long, but I could have like two or three sodas that have so much sugar in them. People don't know this, but soda's extremely acidic also. So in terms of throwing out your blood acid level, it's just, it's, there's so many bad things about soda. I do like the occasional soda and I do like sparkling water, but I use zevia soda sodas.

Craig (32m 21s):

They're sweetened with stevia. They're, they're not as good as like the, the real, the real things that have whatever chemicals in them. But they're definitely healthier.

Brian (32m 32s):

And. what, what are some of the big pillars in your book that you talk about? Like just sort of the, the high level ones that, that Right, you're trying to get across. Yeah.

Craig (32m 41s):

Okay. Well, chapter two is all about flooding your body with oxygen. and we touched on that earlier about ozone and, and hydrogen peroxide. But I wanna give people things that they can do at home. They're super easy. This, there's a product called Ms m, it's a really long word. It's a sulfur, in fact, its other, other name is organic sulfur. So if you look online for organic sulfur or MSM, you'll find it. I don't sell the stuff, I don't have any commercial indus interest in this, but I just know that it's a fantastic supplement. And it's one of the few minerals that allows your body to hold onto more oxygen.

Craig (33m 21s):

So, and it's one that's not put into the soil by the farming industry. So it's totally depleted from the soil and the food supply. But if you can get organic sulfur or MSM into your, like, supplement with it and then do some deep breathing, there's a guy named Wim Hoff who's very popular these days. He's, he popularized ice bathing. So the guy's got tons of charisma. If you can, if you can convince people to voluntarily bathe in ice, you, you know, you got, you're onto something. But he also teaches people how to deep, deep breathe. And I have a slightly different breathing technique in here that I suggest, but either or are great.

Craig (34m 3s):

But if you just do deep breathing and also take MSM it will help oxygenate your body, which is great. And then there's all these other therapies, like if you have money and you wanna invest in your health, there's other things that will just take you to a whole nother level. And then there's a whole, whole whole chapter in here about mental health And, you know, feeling happy. Stress is probably the biggest complaint that most people have these days is they just feel stressed. Yeah. And, and that gets me back to the kids. Like, I was kind of touching on that, but like, when we're younger, we can kind of get away with it. I grew up in the eighties and things were not as toxic as they are now.

Craig (34m 44s):

They were still pretty damn toxic. But not like they are now And now, you know, kids are adults and kids are all using these cell phones and I'm see if I can do this. But, you know, they're looking down at their cell phone all the time and they're actually, they're, they're ruining their posture. They, they even have a name for this now. They call it tech neck, where your neck, you know, you start getting a big bump at the back of your neck and then, you know, people's eyesight starts going because they're focusing too much at close distance. I was actually having that problem a couple years ago. I was needing reading glasses to read my cell phone. I've since learned how to reverse that, which is pretty cool. It's not in the book. So I'll just tell you, if you go for long walks and you look at things far away that can help.

Craig (35m 28s):

But if you really wanna speed it up, what you do is you get a mini trampoline or a big trampoline. But a mini trampoline is, is easy to find. They're only like 150 bucks. And I put one on my dock here. I live on the water, I put one out on the dock and I just bounce around and I look at the clouds and I look at things far away. And then I'll look at something a little bit closer and then things far away. And while you're bouncing, you're kind of putting a stress on your, your eyes to focus. So when you're actually focusing on things far away and you're bouncing, it's kind of putting a little bit of, it's making it more difficult for your, it's almost like an exercise for your eye. Basically. And what happens is kids are looking at their phones all the time and their, their eyesight is getting messed up.

Craig (36m 12s):

They need to look out into the distance. They need to bounce around. They need to go outside and play like you and I did when we were kids. Just get 'em outside, have some fun. Leave the phone inside everybody.

Brian (36m 23s):

Yeah, no kidding. I mean, I, I, you know, I take my dogs for like, about probably about three walks a day. Wow. So, yeah. So it's great. But I was just gonna say, like, when I'm walking And now, the weather's getting nice in Chicago. It's like I don't see kids outside anymore. Like Right. It's very rare. Like, and I, I'm talking like on a Saturday, middle of the day, beautiful day. There is not a soul outside. Very rare. And it's, yeah. I mean it's just, it's sort of a lost thing.

Craig (36m 53s):

Yeah. I mean, society has changed a lot. Covid was crazy too, where people were inside forced inside for a while also. But even before that, with video games, video games were not that good. When you and I were, I, I, I'm, I don't know, I'm probably a lot older than you, than you at 50, but I, I know when we were,

Brian (37m 14s):

When I was a kid, yeah. Like, yeah.

Craig (37m 17s):

When I was a kid, video games were pretty basic and they weren't as addictive as they are today. Right. So now, you know, a teenager or a young child can play eight hours on a video game. It's just like, you know, it just goes by like they don't even know what happened.

Brian (37m 34s):

Yeah, yeah.

Craig (37m 35s):

And social media's kinda like that too. I, I've had to take, I'm not preaching to people. I've got my own weaknesses. I've actually had to delete the Facebook app and the, the Twitter or X app off my phone because I just was wasting too much time. Right. Scrolling. Right. And like, this is sucks. I've another trick. If you, if you're really addicted to your cell phone, there's a way to put it into gray scale. I don't know if you can see that. Yeah. But there's a little on iPhones, there's a little button. If you go to this control panel here on the bo, bottom right hand corner, there's one that you can turn, turn your phone into gray scale. I can guarantee you'll get bored with your phone if it's got no color.

Craig (38m 17s):

Wow. So like, if you're really addicted to your phone, that's one thing you can try. Yeah. You, sorry,

Brian (38m 22s):

Go ahead. I was just gonna say, you could also put a lock on it. Oh,

Craig (38m 26s):

For your kids you mean? Or for yourself.

Brian (38m 28s):

Well, you know, you can have it so it locks out after a certain time or locks certain apps after a certain time.

Craig (38m 34s):

Yeah. I, I guess that was another thing I was trying to think of is like, how can I get some self-control with Twitter, for instance? 'cause I happen to like Twitter or XA lot. So I thought, well, maybe if I just put a timer on my phone and set the timer to how much time am I willing to waste on X right now? Okay. Eight minutes, 10 minutes. I don't know, like, maybe we can have a policy where, okay, as soon as that timer goes off, I'm gonna put the phone down and do something productive with my life.

Brian (39m 0s):

Well, yeah, you can definitely do go in there. I don't know. I've done it before where you can put settings on somewhere in settings or something where you can put a time limit on apps so you're only on it for a certain amount and then it just locks out. Right.

Craig (39m 14s):

That's cool.

Brian (39m 15s):

Yeah. Yeah. I, I actually like, Instagram was something that I, I I, I wasn't like all over, but I, I, you know, it's like anything you can get caught up in it. And it's like, I got a new phone I couldn't get, I I, so I couldn't log into my Instagram for like a weeks and I was like, you know, I don't miss it one bit. Good. I don't miss it one bit.

Craig (39m 35s):

Yeah. I find when I delete the apps off my phone, I definitely, 'cause then I have to go through the browser to open them up. Right. It's an extra step. And the, the exp the user experience isn't as good. Right. So it's less addictive when I have to go. But now I'm starting to do more social media and I'm posting and I'm trying to outreach to people more. So it's sucking me in man. Right.

Brian (39m 55s):

Yeah. Yeah. It's pros and cons. Rights

Craig (39m 57s):

Make stop Brian.

Brian (40m 2s):

That's great. Are there any other, other sort of takeaways from the book that, that, you know, you want share that sort of high level stuff? Yeah.

Craig (40m 9s):

Yeah. Here's the other thing. Protein is super important. I know you've had guests and you've talked about protein and how important it is. Here's the other thing that people don't know about protein is that when your gut is challenged, or if you're, if you haven't done something to heal your gut, you're likely not breaking down the protein into, because when you eat a piece of steak, for instance, you know your body has to break it first. You're chewing it. Right. Most people don't chew enough for starters. Like, I remember my grandparents, they would make me chew my food, I don't know, 20, 30 times or something like that. They were like so into me chewing my food.

Brian (40m 49s):

Yeah, yeah.

Craig (40m 50s):

But anyway, these days people just bite something a couple times and then boom, they swallow it. Right? So first of all, it's going down with less, less chewing. And then people don't have a lot then people are drinking a lot of water or beer or Coca-Cola or whatever the heck milk even whatever you're drinking with your food is diluting the stomach acid and the enzymes. And not just that, but the food is deficient in enzymes if it's been cooked. And there's all these other issues that just make it low in enzymes. So taking digestive enzymes is gonna help. But even then, if you're, if you, if the vli, like I was talking about in your small intestines, if that vli is coated with candida, you're not gonna be absorbing your nutrients.

Craig (41m 36s):

Your stomach's probably not gonna be breaking things down. But that steak has to get break broken down right. Into these small peptides. And peptides, again, are just small amino acid chains. Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. I'm just saying that for your audience. I know you know that. Oh yeah. But, but the individual amino acids, that, that's really what your body builds off of is these peptides and amino acids. And so one of the products that I learned about it just in the last couple of years, that I think is a game changer, especially for someone who's trying to heal their body or lose weight, are called essential amino acids. And the reason they're called essential amino acids is because they're the nine amino acids that your body doesn't produce on its own.

Craig (42m 21s):

And all the other amino acids that your body needs, it can produce from these nine amino acids. But when you take these amino acids, and I, full disclosure, I developed one of these products and it's sold on Amazon. It's called Ultimate Essential Amino Acids. My brand is Ultimate. And you can take these things and they, they actually are, they're in your bloodstream within 30 minutes. So in unlike a piece of steak or chicken or eggs, they might take hours for your body to break, break it down if it even does. These amino acids are in your system right away, even if you have poor digestion. So that's a really good thing. And then another thing is that when people are trying to lose weight, especially if they're using Ozempic or Wegovy or Semaglutide or Manjaro or Tirzepatide or one of these, I'm trying to think the other name of Manjaro.

Craig (43m 12s):

EE Eli Lilly has just the, they have like a brand for, for diabetes and they have a brand for, for obesity basically. Anyway, the one for obesity is escaping me right now. But the, the active peptide or drug name is Tirzepatide. And those are semaglutide and tirzepatide are the most popular peptides for weight loss. And they work, they're fantastic. But what do they, what do they do is they suppress your appetite to the degree that people have a hard time getting enough protein in their diet because their, their appetite is so suppressed. So muscle loss and loss of metabolism is one of the major issues with these weight loss peptides.

Craig (43m 54s):

So by taking essential amino acids, you can take 'em in a, in a tablet or flavored powder with it's all natural flavored with stevia and monk fruit. Anyway, you take these things instead and, and they give you your body all the building blocks they need. And they're not that expensive. In fact, a lot of people don't know this, but proteins have varying degrees of essential amino acids in them. In fact, whey protein powder has one of the worst profiles. In fact, over 80% of whey protein just gets converted to sugar in your body because it's got such a poor balance of essential amino acids. And there's been studies to back that up, even on my Amazon listing.

Craig (44m 36s):

You can see the chart showing these different absorption rates of different proteins.

Brian (44m 44s):

Interesting. And I was also gonna say, what, what would you say like your habits are around like routines? Because like, we talk a lot about routines on, on this podcast. And do you have like an evening routine and a morning routine?

Craig (45m 2s):

Well, I like to sleep well, that's for sure. And I've got about eight to 10 different strategies in the book, in like two pages. Summarized in two pages that give great sleep tactics to get really deep good sleep. One of the things I recommend is a, the earlier version of it was called a chili pad. There's a newer one called an er And. now there's another version of it. But my, my particular model is called er by a company called Chili Technologies. And they originally came out with the chili pad. And all it is is this pad that goes underneath your fitted sheet or if you have a,

Brian (45m 45s):

There's, there's a company called Eight Sleep Make. Yeah,

Craig (45m 48s):

Eight sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Eight Sleep is like a new version of that.

Brian (45m 51s):

Yeah. I ordered, I have one on coming soon to my house.

Craig (45m 55s):

It's basically like a temperature control for your body. Yeah. And especially women who are going through hot flashes. My wife was dying with those few dying But. it was really interrupting her sleep and she, it was really causing problems. Also, obviously women know, a lot of women know that hormone replacement therapy can help with hot flashes, but these, this sleep system is really good. Another thing is, you know, men balancing your testosterone that can really help with sleep and anxiety. Like low testosterone really sets you up for anxiety. Like having high testosterone, you feel like you're, you're the man, you know, and when you don't, you, you don't feel like the man.

Craig (46m 36s):

And that's un the unfortunate truth about it. But yeah, sleep's super important. So

Brian (46m 41s):

What about a morning routine? Do you have a morning routine?

Craig (46m 45s):

Honestly, I, I like coffee. It's, I, I kind of wish I could knock that habit off, but I have fresh roast organic beans, so Nice. I, I buy organic green coffee beans and I have a coffee roaster. It's kind like an air popper for popcorn. Like if everyone remembers those But it just, it blows hot air over the beans. And in about eight minutes or something you have fresh, fresh coffee. Oh, that's cool. But what I do is I put collagen peptides in the coffee 'cause they're almost flavorless and they help with your skin and your collagen. So that's something that I like to do. And I'll also also take the essential amino acids first thing in the morning, preferably on an empty stomach.

Craig (47m 30s):

'cause then there's nothing that can interfere with their absorption like fat or other proteins that might throw out that essential amino acid balance. Because what I failed to say is like the actual ratio of the essential amino acids, there's nine essential amino acids, but they have to be a particular ratio for your body to utilize them properly. And so when tho those ratios are out, that's, that's the problem. The main problem with whey protein is that the ratio of these essential amino acids is so poor and that's why they're not well utilized. And they turn mainly to sugar in your body.

Brian (48m 1s):

But what would, what

Craig (48m 2s):

Would you, yeah,

Brian (48m 3s):

Go ahead. Yeah, I was just gonna say, this is a question I ask pretty much everyone that comes on the the podcast. What would you say, what one tip would you give someone who is maybe, you know, looking to get their body or their minds back to what it once was like 10, 15 years ago?

Craig (48m 19s):


Brian (48m 20s):

Well, yeah. What one tip would you give them?

Craig (48m 22s):

Heal your gut. 'cause that just handles so many things in your body. Take something. And that, the process for that is take something like some sort of capsule or capsules that's gonna kill the candida and, and bacterial overgrowth in your system. There's tons of them out there. You don't have to buy my book to learn how to do that, but I do cover it. And, and then you start getting really good probiotics in there. And honestly, I think my prob robotic yogurt maker is the best on the market. And I would recommend getting that. But only because you can turn billions into trillions of live cultures and stop having to buy expensive probiotics every month. You can just make your own. You take one spoonful of the last batch and you make some more.

Craig (49m 6s):

It's like never ending probiotics. And the highest strength is the best deal out there. So that would be my suggestion.

Brian (49m 13s):

Heal the gut. Yeah.

Craig (49m 14s):

You gotta lose weight though, obviously. And if you have to use peptides or some sort of appetite suppressant to get you there, I think it's worth it. Honestly. That's my personal opinion And

Brian (49m 26s):

My question you're cutting

Craig (49m 27s):


Brian (49m 27s):

Carbs with, with your yogurt maker. Just one question with the yogurt maker. Yeah. So, so how does it work? What, what ingredients do you need?

Craig (49m 36s):

Okay. Half and half cream is probably the best medium to make it in. If you wanna use whole milk, that's good. I always use organic, preferably grass fed, but that's just me. Yeah. I don't mind paying premium for the best.

Brian (49m 51s):

What's the name of the yogurt maker again?

Craig (49m 53s):


Brian (49m 54s):

That? What's the name of the yogurt maker?

Craig (49m 55s):

Ultimate? Everything's ultimate brand, baby. Oh,

Brian (49m 57s):

There you go. Ultimate I'm, I'm gonna check that out. 'cause I, I I love Greek yogurt. Yep. And gosh, it's not cheap. Good. Greek yogurt is not cheap, right?

Craig (50m 8s):

Yeah. And if you make it with half and half cream, it comes out the thickness of Greek yogurt. That's what I like. Obviously it's got a high fat content, but if you're not trying to lose weight, particularly those excess calories, as long as you're not hitting a lot of carbs aren't a bad thing because all the sugars are getting eaten up by the probiotics. And you actually, actually to the point where you actually have to add more prebiotics into the half and half cream before you start the batch. And you use something either potato starch, believe it or not, or what I use is organic inulin. It's called inulin. But anyway, when you buy the probiotic yogurt maker, we, we have a PDF guide that explains how to do everything, which, which probiotics do what.

Craig (50m 53s):

So if you're, you know, trying to improve your mood, here's, here's the one to use. If you're trying to lose weight, here's the one to use, trying to handle inflammation or pain, here's the one to use.

Brian (51m 4s):

Definitely gonna check that one out.

Craig (51m 7s):

Well yeah, I'm happy to send you a free one for having me on the show.

Brian (51m 9s):

Oh, appreciate that. Well, I appreciate you coming on. Where's the best place for people to find you?

Craig (51m 19s):

Well, I'm all over social media. Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, not so much

Brian (51m 26s):

LinkedIn. Okay. Craig Craig Brockie dot com would probably be

Craig (51m 29s):

Craig Brockie dot com. Yeah. And then if you go to amazon.com/ultimate, that's where you'll find all our products that we sell. Okay. And the book, this, this is the title of the book, if you wanna check it out, just type in Ultimate Health book on Amazon. You'll find that we have a Kindle version paperback. Have not done an audio version yet, but perhaps we'll do that.

Brian (51m 56s):

Well, Craig, it was great meeting you and I appreciate you coming on. Thanks,

Craig (51m 59s):

Brian. I thought you did a great job and it's great to meet you and I really appreciate what you're doing for your audience. And I love being around positive people like you are actually making a difference in the world. And I, I trust that your audience are similar people.

Brian (52m 12s):

Yeah, no, I, I appreciate you coming on and sharing all the knowledge and we'll check you out. Check, check out Craig Brockie, I'll put some Links in the show notes and have a great rest of the day.

Craig (52m 22s):

Thanks Brian. You too. Take care.

Brian (52m 26s):

Thanks for listening to the GETLEAN e Clean podcast. I understand there are millions of other podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine and I appreciate that. Check out the show notes at Brian Gryn dot com for everything that was mentioned, In, this episode. Feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member that's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again and have a great day.

Craig Brockie

I came from a small town of 9,000 in Ontario, Canada, and was very driven from a young age. My parents were business people and in that intimate environment, I learned the virtues of humbleness and integrity.

Although I was quick to become a millionaire, I still had many difficult challenges to overcome. In my 20s, my health fell apart, and I felt unfulfilled and unaligned with my true self. In the name of ‘perfectionism’ I was in fact dedicated to finding, analyzing, and criticizing the imperfections I perceived in myself and in everything around me.


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