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Interview with Chip Baker: Effective Conversations to Ignite Relationships, and The Impact of Influence!

January 30, 2023 in Podcast


This week I interviewed author, speaker and educator Chip Baker.

We discussed topics related to learning to serve and inspire others through relationships. We also talked about his book - The Impact Of Influence: Using Your Influence To Create A Life Of Impact, along with:

  • His Formula Chart for Life
  • Effective Conversations to Ignite Relationships
  • Growing Through your Go
and his one tip to get your body or mind back to what it once was!

Brian (0s):

Coming up on the Get Lean e Klean podcast,

Chip (4s):

Here's a quote from one of my former pastors that I heard, and when I heard it, like it blew me away. And the quote is, life moves at the speed of our relationships.

Brian (15s):


Chip (16s):

You know, you think about it, those people that are doing great things have great relationships. Those people that are not doing so great, they, they probably need better relationships. And, and the component that helps those relationships is the effective conversation within those relationships because you learn and grow together, right? Which gives you consistency over time, which allows that relationship to be great.

Brian (43s):

Hello, and welcome to the Get Lean ean podcast. I'm Brian Grn, and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was, five, 10, even 15 years ago. Each week, I'll give you an in-depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long-term sustainable results. This week I interviewed author, speaker, and educator Chip Baker. We discussed all about learning to serve and inspire others through relationships. We also talked about his book, the Impact of Influence, and How you can apply this to your life, along with his formula chart for life effective conversations, to ignite relationships, growing through your go, and is one tip to get your body or mind back to what it once was.

Brian (1m 29s):

Really enjoyed my interview with Chip. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All right. Welcome to the Get Lean e Clean podcast, and I have Chip Baker, author, speaker, and educator. Welcome to the show, chip.

Chip (1m 45s):

Thanks so much for having me. Been been looking forward to this.

Brian (1m 49s):

Thanks for coming on. And the Success Chronicles is your podcast, and definitely check that out. How, when did you start that podcast?

Chip (1m 59s):

Oh, man, it's been eight years since I started the podcast and the YouTube channel. So it's been a, it's been a great run and I'm truly grateful for the growth that it's had over the years.

Brian (2m 13s):

Yeah. Eight years. Wow. That's a long run. I thought I've been doing it for a while. My, I'm only on like two and a half years right now, so

Chip (2m 22s):

Yeah. It's, it's been neat to see the, the journey from the, the first few episodes to now. I don't know, I can't even look at 'em. It's like the difference.

Brian (2m 32s):

Yeah, I know. Like, you look at yourself like, well, for you eight years ago, you're like, wow, how did I do that? Right.

Chip (2m 39s):

Yeah. Quality, all of that, man. It's crazy technology.

Brian (2m 43s):

Yeah. You learn, you grow. Right. What would you say the biggest thing you learned over the last, you know, you've been, you, you started your podcast eight years ago. I mean, that was a, that's when podcasting wasn't even going too much. Yeah. I mean, what, what was the biggest things you've learned through the years?

Chip (3m 2s):

I think the cool thing is that with, with technology like this, it makes, makes the world smaller. And I think I've, I've learned that like, there is no limits to what we can achieve, you know, because I think it allows us to be connected. I mean, it's, it's crazy. Like it's people that I've seen on TV or, or here on the radio or something like that, and I reach out via social media to interview and like in a week I'm interviewing them. You know, like, just things like that. And so it just, it just shows I've learned that like, really there is no limit. You know, if, if you're willing to put in the work and be open and, and, and to learn, then, then, you know, anything can happen for you.

Brian (3m 50s):

Yeah, it's a great point. Like it, I like what you said, like it makes it feel like the world's smaller Yeah. To some degree, because you can, like the people that you see that that's, you know, social media, I, you know, obviously has a pro has its pros and cons, but

Chip (4m 4s):

Oh, for sure,

Brian (4m 5s):

The fact that you can reach out and I feel the same way. I've talked to people on my podcast, you know, PJ tour players and, you know, people that I don't think I would've ever even had any contact with if I never started mine. So yeah, the outreach and the, the, the, the growth that you can get from just, you know, these individuals that you'd think you would never actually have conversations with.

Chip (4m 27s):

Yeah. It's been amazing.

Brian (4m 30s):

So what would you say, so people listen, and we, this is mainly we, we talk about health and wellness, and today we're gonna, this definitely can go hand in hand with, you know, building, you know, a sound body and mind. But what would you say the biggest things that you, you know, educate people on and, and speak about, you know, through your work?

Chip (4m 50s):

I think for me, I think first off, I, I don't think that we can speak or teach people things that we haven't experienced, right? That's not genuine in my eyes. But so for me, you know, I'm all about sharing the experiences, the learning lessons that, that we, we've learned in our life to share those with others and to show them that, you know, the big man has blessed all of us with amazing gifts to influence others, just like people have influenced me and it's made a huge impact in my life. And so I think that like you, like me, like little me, you know, like, no, like, yes, you, we all have a, a, a certain special gift or trait that we can use to, to help others.

Chip (5m 45s):

I think it's important to that we tap into that and maximize our potential.

Brian (5m 50s):

Yeah, love that. And you have a book called The Impact of Influence.

Chip (5m 54s):

Yes, sir.

Brian (5m 56s):

And I'm just curious what, what kind of wisdom is in that book? I mean, obviously just try to give us maybe the cliff notes of what, what is, what was your reasoning behind this book?

Chip (6m 7s):

Well, the reasoning, I think first the reasoning behind it was the ability to be connected with great people that can help teach me how to do that, first off. Right. You know, through the podcasting, through the connecting, I met some great people that were able to, I was able to learn from. And then the next phase of that is, you know, we've all been influenced by something or someone in our life, and we've been influenced in such a manner that it's impacted us and caused us to be the people that we are today. Right. And so that's the gist of what the book, and it's a book series we just recently released Volume five, the Impact of Influence and really is powerful influencers that have come together and they're just sharing their stories of, you know, that person or situation that's influenced them in their life, what they learned from that, and then how they're using what they learned to help others and help our world be better.

Chip (7m 5s):

And that's basically the gist of the impact of influence.

Brian (7m 8s):

Yeah. And that made me think, like, I coach high school golf, and it's like, when I think about, you know, I'm like seven years now, and I think about, you know, when, when I'm with these kids is like, how can I be, you know, how can I influence their lives and, and, and be something that they can, you know, grow to like, learn from the things that, you know, I've learned from for the past 20, 30 years that I've been, well, I'm older than that, but for, you know, at least, you know, my adult age and just help build a good character, you know?

Chip (7m 40s):

Yes. And, and what's crazy is those are transferrable skills. Like, as a kid, we don't, you don't know that, like, we don't realize that, right. We're learning transferrable skills, but those transferrable skills that you learn at that age, you're able to take those and use those for the rest of your life.

Brian (7m 59s):


Chip (7m 59s):

You know, it's, it is crazy. But like, you know, discipline, being on time, hard work, you know, teamwork, you know, you know, grit, you know, all of those different things that we learned, I still use all of that as an adult with a family and a job and a career and, you know, and all, you know, all of those different things. But it's simple. All the stuff that I learned then, it's the same stuff that I do now.

Brian (8m 27s):

Yeah. And kids, it's like, they're like sponges too, you know? It's like, so it, it, it is a very gratifying, oh my gosh, I guess position to be in, because I can remember pe, you know, people that have influenced my life when I was in high school and, and influence and the te you know, the teachers and, and how I still think of things that, that that happened. Yes. From, you know, when I was 15.

Chip (8m 51s):


Brian (8m 52s):

Now you have this formula. I was curious about this, this formula chart for life. Yeah. I thought this was, I'm curious to know what this is all about, the formula chart for life, perhaps. How can people apply this?

Chip (9m 6s):

So the formula chart for life, I got a little story, the background story about that. Yeah. So, so growing up, I always struggled with math, right? Even, you know, when I got into college, you know, the, the math classes that I had to take, I took the bare minimum of what I had to take. And, and I don't know that I completely passed those. They probably helped me because they were so tired of me, like asking questions and right, man, here he comes again, like, gosh, you know, just to get rid of me. But e either way, I took it and I ran with it. I'm grateful for it. But, you know, then when I got into my career, you know, I saw that, you know, there's this thing that we use in math called the formula chart, and I co-taught a chemistry class.

Chip (9m 53s):

And the chemistry class, they did formulas and they used the formula chart. And so as I was looking through those things, I was like, man, like this can be applied. Some of these things can be applied to life. And so I started taking notes on that and just, you know, observing. And that's basically what the book is. The book is the formula chart for life, and it just shares formulas for life lessons, and love that, man. It's just, it's really like no writing is, it's all formulas. And it's amazing because the beauty of it is you can take the formula and apply it to your life and your personal situation to help you be successful.

Brian (10m 35s):

Yeah, I love that. I think, yeah, anything that's like simplify things and like formulas can sort of simplify things to, to some degree. And then you talk about like effective conversations and relationships. I mean, this is topics that we don't necessarily talk a lot about on this podcast, but I'm just curious, and I think it's important. I think we've maybe lost, touched a little bit with effective conversations probably due to what's happened over the last few years with Covid and everyone's sort of in their own little bumble bubble, especially with kids. And, and, and how, you know, even just wearing masks, how that could affect communication between kids and adults and kids and kids.

Brian (11m 18s):

What kind of things do you talk about regarding building effective conversation within individuals?

Chip (11m 25s):

I think, you know, when, when you look at effective conversation, the underlying piece is the respect aspect. You know, you know, you wanna make sure and in relationships that you're respectful of the other person, you're respectful of yourself. There's lots that go into that. And, you know, here's a quote from one of my former pastors that I heard, and when I heard it, like it blew me away. And the quote is, life moves at the speed of our relationships. You know, you think about it, those people that are doing great things have great relationships. Those people that are not doing so great, they, they probably need better relationships.

Chip (12m 7s):

And, and the component that helps those relationships is the effective conversation within those relationships because you learn and grow together, right? Which gives you consistency over time, which allows that relationship to be great. And so, you know, just things like, you know, respecting one another, allowing time for growth. You know, there's a couple, like a tip, there's a rating scale that I have in, in that book, the Effective Conversation to ignite relationships, you know, whereas, you know, and this can, this can be applied in, you know, husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, coworker, you know, male friend, a male ala, any type of relationship, a rating skill, you know?

Chip (12m 54s):

So the scale is, you know, one is, you know, it's not an issue, but 10 is like, Hey, don't do that crap. You know? And so when you have this scale, you know, so I, I can say, Hey, you know, Ryan, man, that's a, that's a, that's a three for me. You know, and you can say simply, Hey, chip, that's a nine for me. So now, just from that situation, now, okay, man, now I, I can see, well, it's a nine for him, so that bothers him. So what can I do to help make it not as stressful to you? So just in that right there, that shows you the effort that I care about how you feel about the situation, right?

Chip (13m 36s):

Which automatically brings us closer together, because now you see, oh, well, he does care that it, things are all right. And so that's just a, you know, that's just one of the tips that I, that, that are in the book, the rating scale, that that's really good. Which, which allows for effective conversation in relationships.

Brian (13m 57s):

And I also would think that like prioritizing, prioritizing your re Yeah. That, you know, prioritizing those relationships, I is gotta be up there, right? Because if you don't prioritize it, you won't make time to have those effective conversations. You know, like I can say, like, growing up with my dad, I would, we would like book out these times where we would actually just sit and talk and it could have been a, it could be a five, 10 minute talk. It could be an hour talk.

Chip (14m 32s):

That's so good.

Brian (14m 33s):

We started

Chip (14m 34s):

Doing so good. Yeah.

Brian (14m 35s):

We started doing it every week, you know, now not as much, you know, he's in Florida, I'm here. It's not like, but like, probably for a span of, I'd say, you know, a good five years, six years. And it's amazing. You know, I started doing it, it with him and it's amazing how much I learned from him, but he actually learned a lot from me as well. And, and it just sort of grew, grew that relationship

Chip (15m 0s):

And, and about you too.

Brian (15m 2s):

Yeah, of course. Yeah. I mean, and topics came up in some were, you know, more surface level, but some were deeper. And I think that's sort of the issue a lot, I think a lot times today is we have so many of these surface level conversations Yes. And we never really get down to,

Chip (15m 19s):


Brian (15m 19s):

You know, what, what is really important. There's nothing wrong with surface level conversations, but I think with your, your closest ones, I think it's important to make time, maybe to talk about other things.

Chip (15m 29s):

Yeah. Those hard conversations are, are where you have your maximum growth.

Brian (15m 34s):

Yeah. And so with that, like what, what would you say are some tips as far as, you know, building, I don't know, building relationships with in other individuals, whether it's coworkers or, you know, family members. What, what kind of like tips would you give individuals to start building these effective, you know, conversations, you know, to ignite these relationships?

Chip (16m 3s):

I think, you know, a lot of the things we've hit on, you know, I think first, you know, having the respect piece, you know, respecting the other person, but then respecting yourself to have boundaries to be able to express, you know, hey, you know, those are kind of my boundaries. That's something that makes me unhappy, which sparks the conversation. I think allowing time for growth, you know, when you express things that you know are not so well for you, you can't expect for it to just boom, you know, just magically disappear, right? And so you have to allow that time for growth so you meet, you know, halfway in between there.

Chip (16m 46s):

You know, I think have a system for communicating, you know, like you said, you know, make the time, you know, we're, we're gonna take time to do this. You know, we have a window where we talk, have a, a scale, you know, have a system by which you communicate, right? And, and, you know, if you can plan that and be proactive beforehand, it allows you to not be reactive. And, and being reactive is not good. Right. Proactive is better, you know, and I think that those are some of the common things that, that initially come up for me when you're striving to be better in relationships.

Brian (17m 26s):

And, and something that I was just thinking about was like, I, I had this talk with Colin Stucker, who I, who's a c e O of supplement company, but we were just talking about building community, but having relationships that, that serve you well. And you, you think about like health and wellness surrounding yourself with people who are prioritizing their health and taking actions within that, whether that's going to a gym or, you know, eating the right way. And if you can surround yourself with more people that are like that, you know, that will automatically have an influence on you. It, you know, that's something I just think that's, that's, you know, I've been lucky to be around a lot of people who have put health first when I, since I was been in high school and then in college.

Brian (18m 15s):

You know, you, I surrounded myself with people like that, but I just think that's important as well.

Chip (18m 21s):

Oh, without a doubt. You know, some total, you know, of, you know, the five most people, the people we hang around most, you know, that quote. And it does make a difference who you put yourself around, and it's a choice to do that, but you have to be disciplined to make those choices, to put yourself around the right people. And then from there you have that positive peer pressure. Right. You know, it's not, Hey, let's go do bad things. Hey, let's go to the gym. Okay. You know, hey, you know, we're, we're not gonna eat all of that. You know, let's go to a healthier, let's have a healthier food choice. Oh, okay. You know, and so it's, it's that situation to where you've been disciplined enough to make the choices, to put yourself around the right people that make good choices, and therefore those choices multiply because we're all making good choices and we all get better together.

Brian (19m 17s):

Yeah. And then I noticed you have another sort of, I think it might be an ebook growing through your go through.

Chip (19m 25s):

Mm. Come on.

Brian (19m 27s):

Growing through your, go through. Explain that one to me.

Chip (19m 32s):

So I don't care who you are, none of us are immune from growing through tough things. Catch that. None of us are immune from growing through tough things. And what I mean by that is like, you know, crazy things are gonna happen in our life, right? But what we have to do is, in those situations, we have to be aware enough to where we learn the lessons, Hey, you know, the stove is hot, don't touch the hot stove. You know, like those kind of things. I did this, oh, that was not, I didn't get a good result on that, you know, I made this choice to do this.

Chip (20m 13s):

Oh, that was pretty beneficial for me. Right. And so we have to make sure that we grow through those situations so that on the other side of that we are better and we are the best versions of ourselves. And, and this is where it gets really good, you know? Yes, you become better when you do that, but, but check this out, you become better for others as well. Right. Which allows you to do more and be more and make more of an impact in our world.

Brian (20m 48s):

Yeah. I like that. And what are some of the things that you've learned or you've go, go, gone through that you've grown from, you know, both in business and, and you know, just everyday life?

Chip (21m 1s):

Yeah. I'm the, I'm the evidence and the research of that man, pick something, you know, just, you know, growing up, you know, was raised with a single parent mom, you know, grew up in a small town, you know, all of those things, you know, had some struggles. We had financial struggles, you know, like all of those things that, that I could say, Hey, those are excuses, you know, but I've chose to use those as my motivation to say, Hey, we're gonna learn from that, and, and we ain't doing that no more.

Brian (21m 31s):


Chip (21m 31s):

You know? And so, you know, any of those situations in life that we, that we have to grow through that are adverse situations, we can all make excuses and, you know, why and say, poor me. And, you know, and say, you know, why me? But why don't we just say, why not me? You know? Right, right. And so, you know, all of those things. And then, you know, even like in into my life, you know, there's man like, you know, struggle, like in college, you know, playing ball, things quite didn't go the way I wanted 'em to go, you know, getting outta college, it took me three years to pass my certification test to be an educator, you know, but I ended up being teacher of the year twice, you know, on my campus.

Chip (22m 17s):

You know, what if I had given up, what if I had chosen not to do those things? And so it's a, as I go through each think, reflect, and think of each phase of my life, there's tons of things that I've had to grow through, right? And so, like I said, when I, when we started, you know, when you push yourself through that and learn those lessons, it allows you to be the best version of yourself. So now, you know, there's a guy that I work with that has had some issues with, you know, passing the certification test, and I can encourage him because I've been there, right? You know, there are kids, you know, that, that I, I teach your coach that you know, may, you know, have, are raised by single parent in a tough situation.

Chip (22m 60s):

Like, I know the pain, I can see, you don't have to tell me. I know, I know. I can see it and I know what it feels like, right? So now I can encourage them and say, Hey, let me tell you, like if I can do it, some of these things that I've been blessed to do, no, trust me, you can too. Right? And so we all have to make sure that we grow through our go through, because at the end of the day, it's bigger than it is bigger than us.

Brian (23m 25s):

Yeah. And I just think of like individuals, some individuals that I work with, like clients that are going through struggles. Most of the time I deal with people who are going through struggles with weight and some health issues. But I always go back to just focusing on the process and not getting, you know, too caught up in the result. You know, cuz doing something every day, creating good habits, you're not gonna, you might not see a result in a week. You might not see a result in a month, but, you know, a lot of people don't wait long enough. Right? Like they ha you, they, you know, before it starts getting good, it's like, oh, they end up giving up. And so a lot of times you sort of have to just keep pushing through and, and you know, you'll come up, you'll come out better on, on the, at the end

Chip (24m 11s):

For sure. I think as I, as I heard you say that, I think the word that that comes up for me is consistency. You know, it's important to just be consistent and show up. Have a great attitude. Give everything you got today. Yeah. You know, then, you know, reflect in the evening and hit the ground running, show up, have a great attitude, give everything you got the next day, you know, and just, just continue to do that daily. I mean, you do that for a week, that's a great week. You do that for a month. Ooh, that's a good month. You know, you do that for a year. Oh man, it's a good year.

Chip (24m 53s):

You see where I'm going? It continues to build. And you know, when you get to go visit the big man, you know, you would not have just left a legacy. It will, it will have allowed you to live a legacy by your day-to-day actions because you just showed up, had a great attitude, and gave your all, which gives you that consistency daily.

Brian (25m 12s):

Love that. Well, this was good, chip. I think we've hit on a lot of things. There's a, where's the best place for people to find you?

Chip (25m 21s):

So all of my social media is at Chip Baker, t s c as in the Success Chronicles, except for Twitter. And Twitter is Chip Baker 19. And so, you know, all of my social media is that I asked that, that you would go check it out. You know, if you see something that, that you like that speaks to you and there's somebody that you think of, of course, you know, the typical light follows, subscribe, all of that stuff, that's fine. But I think it's bigger than that. You know, share it with someone that you care about in hopes to make their day better.

Brian (25m 55s):

Yeah. And I'll definitely put, put, put some links in the show notes for people to find a chip. And you're out in the Houston area, right?

Chip (26m 3s):

Yes, sir. I am in Conroe, Texas. Which is, which is north of Houston.

Brian (26m 7s):

Outstanding. Well, I'll, I'll ask you one last question. Okay. What tip would you give someone who's maybe struggling in, in, it could be in weight, it could be in other areas of their lives to sort of get back to where they maybe once were 10, 15 years ago. Either their body, their mind, what, what one tip would you give that individual?

Chip (26m 30s):

I think the, going back to the formulas, how we talked about, I think maximum effort equals maximum results, right? Let me say that again. Maximum effort equals maximum results. And so it's important to make sure that you're open and willing to put the work in and be consistent like we talked about. And then, you know, yeah, that process is tough. Tough people do tough stuff, right? But then on the other side of that, you will love the results of what you get because you put the work in, you put the effort.

Chip (27m 16s):

And like you said earlier, it's not so much about the results, it's more about the process, right? And in that process you learn, you gain mental toughness. Like you prove to yourself that you can do it right. Which really gets exciting because now you're like, okay, chip, what you gonna do? Now you know what's, alright, you did that. Let's go, what's the next one? Right? And you get on this roll and before you know it, you look back, you like, man, that's crazy. I can't believe I did that. So I think for me, maximum effort equals maximum results. Just give maximum effort today.

Brian (27m 57s):

Love that. Yeah. You build that momentum, you

Chip (27m 59s):

Know? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Brian (28m 1s):

That's a strong thing. Well, chip, thanks for coming on. We'll put all the, your links in the show notes so people can find you and have a great rest of the day.

Chip (28m 11s):

All right. Thanks so much for having me. Go get it.

Brian (28m 17s):

Thanks for listening to the Get Lean EAN podcast. I understand there are millions of other podcasts out there, and you've chosen to listen to mine and I appreciate that. Check out the show notes@briangrin.com for everything that was mentioned in this episode. Feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member that's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again, and have a great day.

´Chip Baker

Inspiration/Motivation at Chip Baker- The Success Chronicles


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