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Even now in the middle of winter, if I go outside, there's infrared there. And research shows that, that that infrared penetrates into our bodies and it actually creates a bigger battery of this exclusion zone water. It charges it, it expands, it fourfold. So imagine being depleted in this and de being depleted of this exclusion zone water as the same thing as a cell phone battery being depleted where it reaches a critical threshold and all of a sudden it's gonna darken the screen and it's gonna tell you it can't download or live stream. That thing, you know, you, you lose functionality. That same thing happens inside of our cells when we deplete this exclusion zone water. But we're meant to, we're designed to have a continuous battery charging of it via infrared light that we would naturally get anytime we're outside when, when there it's daylight.
But modern living, right? Modern window glass blocks the infrared for energy efficiency. Modern light bulbs have gotten rid of the infrared for energy efficiency. So for all intents and purposes, we're in a much more infrared deficient environment than we would be, than we were designed to be in.
Brian (1m 9s):
Hello and welcome to the Get Lean ean podcast. I'm Brian Grn, and I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was, five, 10, even 15 years ago. Each week, I'll give you an in-depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long-term sustainable results. This week I interviewed Quantum Health educator and clinician Carrie Bennett. We discussed her journey into quantum health and how it changed her life. We also touched on the importance of sunlight, problems with artificial light, the benefits of infrared light, exclusion, zone water, and her top quantum health strategies to optimize your health.
Brian (1m 49s):
Really enjoyed my interview with Carrie. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All right. Welcome to the Get Lean e Klean podcast. My name is Brian Grin, and on today's show I have Carrie be Wellness. Welcome to the
Carrie (2m 4s):
Show. Hi Brian. I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having me.
Brian (2m 7s):
Yeah, thanks for coming on all the way from Michigan Midwest. Another a Midwest girl.
Carrie (2m 13s):
That's right, that's right. Pretty close by, you know, and we are just talking, the weather is not our favorite right now, so I'm, I'm ready for spring.
Brian (2m 20s):
Yeah, it def you know, when, when you go through the seasons it's like you hate 'em and you love 'em and you hate 'em. Like it makes you really appreciate the good weather, right?
Carrie (2m 29s):
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's that spring weather where I'm just like, yes, let's get there. It's just feels so good to get to that transition.
Brian (2m 37s):
Yeah. And we'll talk all about sunlight and water and, and many different topics. What, maybe explain to the audience your background and how you sort of got into the health field.
Carrie (2m 51s):
Oh, you know, gosh, it's a great, it's a great question. I, I've always been interested in science. You know, that was a passion to study even in, in high school, you know, and so when I went to college, I went to a college that had a really strong undergraduate science program and I was a college athlete. And, you know, I loved just figuring out how the human body operated. And I, you know, what I, what I was supposed to do when I graduated from college was I was supposed to get a PhD or go to medical school, right? Because that's what you did when you graduated with an undergraduate degree from there. And none of those felt right, right? Like, I didn't, what I wasn't passionate about going into traditional medicine. And back in the day, back in the day before, I knew a dang thing about light.
Carrie (3m 32s):
I was just like, and I can't study microbiology under fluorescent lights in a lab all day. Like that just sounds horrible, hor horrific to me. And so, you know, I, I went to my volleyball coach, I hadn't had a mental breakdown and I was, she was like, well, what do you wanna do? And I said, I wanna become a massage therapist. Oh. And she said, okay, go ahead. You know, why don't you do it? And so I told my parents, they're like, yes, that sounds that, that's cool. We support you. But you know, get a job, go to massage therapy school. You know, really start to figure out what your path is in life. And you, I got the only job I knew, which I, I became a certified personal trainer cuz I was like, well as an ex athlete, I gotta figure out how to keep myself in shape for the rest of my life, so might as well help other people with this.
Carrie (4m 12s):
And you know, that's kinda started my journey of just viewing the human body and how to, I guess, support health. But then, you know, thing things happened, right? You know, as a college athlete, I, my, my joints were not great. Fast forward till, you know, having a baby, my first kid, insomnia, digestive issues and you know, so like that was the layering of like, okay, what can I learn now about supporting my body? Cuz exercise isn't the only thing that's supporting it. You know, massage wasn't the only thing that's supporting it. So I got a master's degree in nutrition and that helped a little bit, but again, it wasn't the end all be all for, for what my body needed. And so, you know, late one night, and then I don't recommend doing this, but late one night I was on my phone scrolling like, why I can't sleep, why my kid can't sleep, why my digestion sucks.
Carrie (4m 58s):
And I found Jack Cruz, Dr. Jack Cruz, and he's a neurosurgeon that many people probably have heard of. And his emphasis is on circadian rhythm and light. And that the light in our environment really matters when it comes to optimizing our health. And so I started doing a couple of key strategies around sunlight and that was very quickly moved the needle to make me feel like, you know, a thriving human being again.
Brian (5m 25s):
Yeah. And and what were those strategies around sunlight? Because sometimes I think it's, it's tough living in the Midwest. I right now actually in Chicago, it's a beautiful sunny day, but you can go, gosh, a few weeks without sun, at least a couple weeks we've had it. And what type of things could individuals do, you know, when it's the winter and they're not always seeing the sun?
Carrie (5m 45s):
Yeah. You know, so that's a great question because it's not about needing actual sunlight. We don't need clear blue skies in order to get the effects that I'm talking about because when the day day has brightened it's daylight, right? Whether the sun is behind clouds, rain, snow, or whether you can actually see that sun and yeah, you know, we're lucky here too. We can, we can see that sun today as well. So it's really pretty no matter what the weather, we get the benefit of what can sunlight can do to energize our body, set our circadian rhythm, balanced neurotransmitters, assist with hormone balance and hormone production. So simply going outside, especially in the morning, is a very key strategy to support our health.
Carrie (6m 29s):
And, and you know, it's hard y in the Midwest to think that there's a benefit of going outside on a cloudy day, especially when there's days in a row. But that's what I had to do to shift my seasonal effective disorder. That's what I had to do to recognize that I can still feel awesome in the Midwest in the middle of winter when I don't see the stre, the sun first stretches of we, like you said, weeks on end. It still, it still feels good and my body recognizes the importance of it and it optimizes its health even when that sun is behind the clouds. So going outside in the morning was key. I especially started to go out as close to sunrise as possible because that like set it, it sets my circadian rhythm, you know, the light that enters my eyes tells time to my body and every gene in my body, right?
Carrie (7m 14s):
A lot of people are big on genetics, but every gene in my body has a clock in front of it. So it's meant to know what time of day it is so it can recognize, okay, when am I gonna express these genes and make these proteins and optimize this function? And if we don't tell at the accurate time, you know, artificial light won't do it, screens won't do it, that light is confusing. So we have to go outside and really sync up to the correct time of day in order to optimize everything about our circadian rhythm and which basically means everything about the health of our bodies.
Brian (7m 44s):
I do love that because my dogs and I walk every morning. So it's, it's a big part of our day and I've got, it's such a habit of mine, even if I don't have the dogs for some reason, if they're somewhere else or I'm traveling, I still have that habit of just getting up and going for a walk. It was nice doing in Florida for a week and feeling 80 degree weather and, but either way, I, I enjoyed, no matter the weather, it's so important. So whether you have a dog or not important to get out, Kira, I'm assuming you, do you have a dog or No,
Carrie (8m 17s):
We've got three children. Right? So we got three children.
Brian (8m 19s):
Okay. Now, so that was my question. Do you take the children with you on the walk in the morning?
Carrie (8m 25s):
So you know, it sometimes it's not as, as glorious as that. Right? It's, and it's like windows down driving into school and like my kids get used to me rolling the windows down and yelling sunrise eyes and everyone looks to the east and they know, like to just get some of that natural light signaling into their eyes. In the summers though, when we're outta school, it's like, yeah, we're just out, we're playing. We're, we're there, you know, sunrise time. And then another key time I call UVA rise. So the sun's a little higher in the sky when that light appears. We try to get, we try, try to get outside as much as we can and it really makes a difference not only for like, for kids too, energy is appropriate, focus then is amazing.
Carrie (9m 6s):
I was just having a conversation with one, one of my kids teachers about how she recognized that in order to get the class to focus, she just takes 'em outside for 15 minutes at a certain time in the morning, and then if she wants 'em to focus on a task, they come back in and they're very focused. And that's because it really does that morning light changes our brain chemistry to optimize things like our focus and our concentration. So yeah, morning light is key and we, we try to get it however we can and it's not always ideal, but consistency is better than perfection. Right? Right.
Brian (9m 33s):
Look out the window, kids just
Carrie (9m 35s):
Look out the window, open it and look, I, my 11 year old, he rolls his eyes, but he still does it. So I'm grateful.
Brian (9m 41s):
Oh, that's good. That's good. So you got into massage therapy, personal training. Yeah. Then you sort of made the switch to quantum, quantum clinician and educator, you would say, well,
Carrie (9m 52s):
I made the switch to a nutritionist. Right. Okay. Like I was hardcore nutrition and like I said, it's important, you know, all these things I think are important, but it wasn't until I laid the foundation of this qu what I call quantum health, right. The sunlight, when to get the natural light signals, when to block the artificial light, because that can be really confusing. And then how the light really interacts with our body to optimize our energy, our mitochondrial health, things like that, that made the difference for me and it's what I'm really passionate about teaching now.
Brian (10m 24s):
Well let's talk about artificial light because I think everyone's default to, or you know, that we're around our phones a lot and screens and especially obviously with kids. How do you sort of navigate that?
Carrie (10m 41s):
Well, you know, there's things we can, I, I think education is key, right? Because a lot of people don't even, like I didn't, I was like, when I first heard that my, my screens could be the issue or light bulbs at the wrong time of day could be causing my body harm. I was like, that's bs. What the heck does that even mean? Right? So I think education is the first thing we have to be aware of. And so once we know that light contains information, right? We've all seen sunlight through a prism or through a rainbow, and it contains different colors. My body has sensors for those colors and those colors coming from sunlight vary. They vary from sunrise to solar, noon back to sunset. And it's the changes and the variation and the predictable variation throughout the course of a day that my brain keys in on and these sensors key in on.
Carrie (11m 27s):
And when we talk then about comparing that to artificial light coming from a screen or from a bulb, those ha contain a very unnatural blend of colors. Oftentimes super heavy in what a lot of people have probably heard of, which is blue light, right? The blue light we hear is damaging, but it also never changes, right? So it's like we're in zombie land if we're under artificial light without getting the the changing light cues that we would get from natural sunlight. Sunlight. So it's, it's easy to see how it's confusing to my circadian rhythm. And then for all intents and purposes, after sunset, there should be no blue light in my natural environment. If I were to go outside, I wouldn't get a lot of blue light from campfire, from from moonlight.
Carrie (12m 10s):
And so when we then have sunset and we then turn on the television, or we stare at a screen, or we have a bunches of artificial lights on, we're getting an excessive amount of blue light. And that's gonna really mess up with our circadian rhythm and hormones at that. The latter half of the day when we're supposed to be entering sleep and repair, it really kind of re stimulates our body to think the day has started all over again. And, and so yeah, what what do we do? Well, you know, nowadays we can say, okay, well, well, well, if at all possible, don't turn lights on, right? Like keep that to a minimum. I have hoarded some incandescent bulb bulbs, which happen to have a better spectrum. They don't have a lot of blue light in them at all. So I, I use incandescent bulbs, little ones.
Carrie (12m 51s):
I have screen, I turned my phone screen red, you know, there's apps and settings you can change to modify screens to have a more red tone to them. And I wear, I wear really like nerdy blue blockers, right? Like, you know, I I make sure that I protect my eyes in the morning before sunrise and after sunset so that I don't allow the blue light to enter it. And I just try to maintain my circadian rhythm as much as possible without also, you know, living like a hermit or in a cave because I still wanna watch a sporting event at night or, you know, America's funniest home videos with my family. Something along those lines. And I just wanna make sure I'm doing it as best as I can with, with respect to my light entering the light, entering my eyes.
Brian (13m 32s):
Yeah, I noticed the glasses you're wearing and are you, there's different, I have a, a few pairs, there's some for daylight and then for the evening ones they're a little darker, right? The the blue light black glasses.
Carrie (13m 44s):
Yes. So, you know, if, if I'm just like out, if I'm outside, if I'm upstairs, not in front of a screen, I don't wear any eye protection whatsoever. But these are from veba rays and I really love their yellow lens technology. It, it's really a prevents like, prevents the strain you would get from a, from a staring at a screen. So it prevents eye strain. It really protects the, what are called the blue light receptors in our eyes from getting overstimulated, which can happen a lot when we're on a screen and then at night at Orange Home, right? It's gotta be orange tone and some, some of my clients even need the red, cuz the red also protects not just the blue light, it protects the, from the green light, the green color of light as well, which can be stimulating for some people.
Carrie (14m 26s):
So yeah, orange tone or red tone, blue blockers in the evenings, if anyone is trying to try this strategy out, I say just skip right to getting orange, getting a pair of orange ones. Like there you can get a cheap one from Amazon called Spectra 4 79. Right. Just go there and try it and see what it does to when you wanna fall asleep, when you, well when you start to feel tired, then when you wanna fall asleep, the quality of your sleep, the length of your sleep, things like that. And people notice a difference pretty quickly.
Brian (14m 56s):
Yeah, I try to put mine on like once, like 8:00 PM comes in later, so Yeah. Is that what you, is your strategy is after a certain time you just
Carrie (15m 5s):
Ah, yeah, you know, there's, there's an app that I've, that, you know, I, I know
Brian (15m 10s):
The app you mean there's an app,
Carrie (15m 11s):
There's an app for that that tells you what, what's called nightfall and it's called the circadian app. And so some people wear it, put 'em on after sunset. I find that to be too early. It's like, you know, when the sun sets, it's still ambiently bright outside. So either I, I either I try to shoot for nightfall or like you said, you know, by, I don't even know what the time changed now, but like, yeah, probably by eight o'clock or so here it starts to get noticeably darker and that's when it's like, okay, let's protect the circadian rhythm.
Brian (15m 40s):
Yeah, I, I enjoyed, I actually think it does help with sleep. I haven't sold my wife on it yet though, but maybe she'll come around,
Carrie (15m 48s):
Took me 10 years, but my husband now wears them, so
Brian (15m 52s):
Oh, 10 years. All right. I've only tried for about a year or two, so, so let's touch on water now. You have, and your Instagram is great, by the way. I'm looking at it right now. Thank you. You and you are, I, I'm just gonna read one of your, your sort of quotes on your Instagram. You are battery made from water charged by sunlight. So water is responsive antenna. So maybe touch a little bit on the importance of water and are there certain types of water that you make sure that you consume?
Carrie (16m 25s):
Oh gosh, water is my favorite thing to talk about, right? Because, and I wanna talk that there's a difference between understanding how water actually operates in our bodies and then yeah, the water we drink does matter. And I, you know, something I poo-pooed until I actually looked into the science and realized how amazing water is in terms of the type of water that we drink. So first and foremost to understand the, the one that you mentioned first is that we're a battery made out of sunlight or made out of water charged by sunlight, right? And so that emphasizes that the water in our bodies creates a battery, it creates energy for us. And you know, I'm, I'm not sure Brian, like how deep you've gone into biology or, you know, physiology.
Carrie (17m 6s):
I'm, I'm certain you, you understand significantly about what's going on in the body. But even e even if we've taken advanced training and advanced courses in biology, when you look at a cell in a textbook, it basically looks like a water balloon cut in half with like this liquid water in it. And then a couple of organelles inside, you know, you'll see the nucleus, you'll see the mitochondria. And that's not how water in our bodies is. It's not really, the majority of the water in our bodies is not in its liquid state like we would think of water sloshing around in a glass. And instead we now have to recognize that the water in our bodies is gelled into an organized structured state that's called exclusion zone water.
Carrie (17m 47s):
And so this has really been brought to the, the forefront by a researcher named Dr. Gerald Pollock, and I can't recommend his book enough, the fourth phase of water. And what we, what his research has shown and other labs have confirmed is that anytime liquid water, such as the water that's made in our mitochondria, right, our mitochondria make water for us. Anytime liquid water comes into contact with a biological surface, a hydrophilic surface, which they're everywhere inside our cells are packed with biological surfaces inside and out. Anytime liquid water comes into contact with that surface, it structures an organizes its molecular arrangement. So instead of water kind of being like this, an H two o kind of in a random arrangement like you would see in a liquid form, it structures itself into hexagons and, and into a geometric shape, into a geometric pattern.
Carrie (18m 36s):
So almost think about honeycombs of this water and it aligns itself up like that next to all biological surfaces. And now when you actually do, when you actually measure to see if it has a charge, liquid water is neutral, water in this state is negatively charged and it has a directly next to the water, this negatively charged water. You have a positive line of protons, you get positive charge, and lots of research has shown that that's potential energy. You can literally light a light bulb if you put electrodes in the positive zone and the negatively charged zone of the water in our bodies, you can light a light bulb. And so we have to shift the paradigm to thinking that the, what creates energy and what gives us energy and animates us in our bodies is at T P A T P plays a role, but the water inside of us actually potentially plays an even bigger role when you recognize it's not just this liquid solvent that we've, that we've learned about in all of our textbooks and it actually structures itself into a source of energy for us.
Brian (19m 35s):
So what steps do, and you know, people think of hydration and they just think of water, but hydration is more than just drinking water, right? A lot of times it's electrolytes and things like that. So what, what types of water should, I should say this, what could people do to make sure that they're staying hydrated or also, you know, charging their mitochondria and making sure that, you know Yeah,
Carrie (20m 0s):
I love how you phrased that, right? Because you're, it's more than, it's beyond the water that we drink, which, which is what, what really everyone wants to know is like, what type of water should I drink? Which, which I have no problem giving details on that. And it's like, but I really truly think we have to understand that water is the water we drink. Yeah. It becomes part of our blood volume and it goes kind of into that interstitial space, right? It becomes part of us. But the water that our mitochondria make is the true source of our cellular hydration. And so anything that sports mitochondrial health is gonna support exclusions zone or water production, and then this exclusion zone water battery and something that support supports both mitochondrial health and this exclusion zone. Water is infrared light.
Carrie (20m 43s):
So what's infrared, right? Infrared heat or light and infr sunlight contains always contains at least 40% infrared a spectrum of light just outside of the visible spectrum that we can't see. You know, some animals can, we can't, but we oftentimes feel it as heat. We don't necessarily have to feel it as heat. So even now, in the middle of winter, if I go outside, there's infrared there and research shows that, that that infrared penetrates into our bodies and it actually creates a bigger battery of this exclusion zone water. It charges it, it expands, it fourfold. So imagine being depleted in this and de being depleted of this exclusion zone water as the same thing as a cellphone battery being depleted where it reaches a critical threshold and all of a sudden it's gonna darken the screen and it's gonna tell you it can't download or live stream that thing, you know, you, you lose functionality.
Carrie (21m 32s):
That same thing happens inside of our cells when we deplete this exclusions on water. But we're meant to, we're designed to have a continuous battery charging of it via infrared light that we would naturally get anytime we're outside when, when there it's daylight. But modern living, right? Modern window glass blocks the infrared for energy efficiency, modern light bulbs have gotten rid of the infrared for energy efficiency. So for all intents and purposes, we're in a much more infrared deficient environment than we would be, than we were designed to be in. So getting into the natural light is a great way to do it. That natural light with the infrared also helps the mitochondria make more water.
Carrie (22m 14s):
It act, it facilitates electron flow, it facilitates a t p production. So infrared's a very key strategy. And if we can't get outside, you know, we can supplement, what can we do to ma to generate infrared? We can get into a sauna, we can get in front of a red light therapy panel. That can be very helpful. And I even think that the unifying, one of the unifying reasons why exercise is so beneficial in so many ways in the body is because we're generating our own infrared, we're generating our own body heat that I think also has an effect on this structured water battery inside of us. So infrared, like remembering that, so the water that we make from our mitochondria add the infrared to charge that battery makes a big difference.
Carrie (22m 54s):
And then we can go into the water that we drink if you want.
Brian (22m 57s):
You're avoiding that topic. Quit sidestepping. No. So, all right. So infrared heat. I'm glad to hear that cuz I actually, I'm lucky I put an infrared sauna in my house and I do enjoy it. It's great. Like it's, it's maybe explain a little bit about it. I mean I've, I've learned from buying it obviously the process of infrared, but I know that it's, you know, it's a different type of heat than like just going into a sauna where they're just steaming you out, right?
Carrie (23m 27s):
Yeah. You know? Absolutely. It's different. It it in terms of the penetration depth, right? Right. And so one of 'em more, one of 'em heats more from the inside out. One of 'em heats more from the outside in. So if you're gonna go into a traditional sauna, you get more of that heat from the outside towards the, in, towards the inside. Whereas if you go into some an infrared sauna, you're gonna get it really more from the inside out. So it's a deeper penetration. But you know, I tell people also, we, we don't need to be perfect because all infrared is supportive. So, you know, I think, I do think that those, those traditional societies in northern latitudes, like, so picture picture people who potentially live in Iceland, you know, Greenland, you know, there's a reason why infrared traditional saunas are a huge part of those cultures.
Carrie (24m 14s):
I think it's because people know they, they recognize, they feel good with it. But I think now we recognize one of the mechanisms that makes them feel good having the infrared exposure on a regular basis, sometimes daily basis is because it helps to charge that water battery. So all infrared is beneficial, but what you do get with something like a far infrared sauna or a full spectrum infrared sauna is the penetration depth of the infrared wavelengths that can be be beneficial.
Brian (24m 40s):
Yeah. And I mean there's, it's amazing how that's grown cuz there's so many on the market now, you could get one that not probably break the bank and, and, and it could be effective. And then you talk about red light. Maybe touch a little bit about red light therapy.
Carrie (24m 54s):
Yeah, sure. So, you know, again, red light, a red light therapy panel contains typically two, sometimes four very specific wavelengths of light. Sometimes one or two in the red light range, one or two in the near infrared range. And those are, you listen, there's at least I've seen, seen a database of at least 5,000 articles on red light therapy. So it's been well studied. They, they, you know, each company kind of picks and chooses which wavelengths. But in general, what we see with those panels is the red light and the near infrared light are very supportive of mitochondria and very supportive of help helping to charge that water battery inside of us.
Carrie (25m 34s):
So simply being in front of a red light therapy panel, we're facilitating the production of more water from the mitochondria and we're charging up that exclusions on battery. So I think it's a really good way to supplement light when it's potentially lacking, either because we can't get outside with work or just because it's a good therapeutic strategy to add into our, into our routine.
Brian (25m 55s):
Okay. Got it. And what would you, you talk a little bit about grounding. We've, we've, I've touched on this, I know I talked with Dr. Twyman about some of this is grounding something that you've put into your practice, even when it's 2020 below in Michigan?
Carrie (26m 9s):
Yeah. You know, 20 below might be my cutoff. Yeah. I, I I try to earth every morning that, that I am seeing, I can go outside at sunrise and I'm not maybe driving kids to school. I touch my bare feet to the earth. It could be 10 inches of snow. Right? And I'm still doing it. And that has a couple of different benefits. If, if, you know, I guess we have to recognize that the body from its most fundamental level, that quantum level of particles, I don't think they're particles, but like electrons, protons, neutrons, that level that we're talking about right now is that, that we really need electrons. Food breaks down into electrons there, there's like all these food arguments on, on the online.
Carrie (26m 50s):
It's like, but wait, food breaks down into electrons, protein breaks down into amino acids, right? That's a building block really. But carbs and fat break down into electrons that our body can then funnel to the mitochondria to make water and a t p. And so food is a way that the body gets the, the needed electrons. But we can also get electrons by simply touching bare skin to the earth because the earth's surface does contain an electrical charge, a negative charge, and we have the ability to conduct it. So my skin is conductive of that negative charge, and I can pull that into my body. So essentially as I pull those electrons into my body, I reestablish negative charge inside of me, including helping facilitate, you know, those electrons moving to the, the mitochondria where again, they can make more water and more a t p.
Carrie (27m 37s):
And there's other things that happen, right when we touch the earth. There's, it's such a, that's such a cool area of study, you know, simply, simply being outside and touching the bare earth. It creates a balance in my nervous system. So people who are, are kind of what we would call that in that fight or flight mode all the time, can get a really balanced activation of sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. You can re help blood flow. So I don't know if Dr. Twyman talked about that, but he probably would, would've alluded to the fact that every red blood cell is meant to be surrounded by tons of negative charge. It's called zeta potential. And it needs this halo of electrons so that these red blood cells can kind of be like little free rafts and float freely and well through the bloodstream.
Carrie (28m 20s):
And again, living indoors, when we're not in contact with Earth, like we would've been pretty much 24 7, we, we deplete that negative charge so we can get that charge back by touching the earth with bare skin.
Brian (28m 32s):
And you could also hug a tree if you'd like.
Carrie (28m 34s):
You can hug a tree, you can hug anything that's growing right in the earth.
Brian (28m 39s):
And I remember I was like, I think I came back and I was like touching a tree and my, I walked back in the house, my wife's like, what are you doing? I'm like, nothing. Don't worry about it.
Carrie (28m 46s):
I know, right? I know when I'm like at, I'm at school and I'm like picking up the kids and it's like, well, you know, I'm gonna go earth. Like I pretend I'm tying my shoes. Kinda like glance my hands on the, on the ground.
Brian (28m 58s):
Yeah. Do a handstand. Oh, what are
Carrie (29m 1s):
You doing? Really? Make a spectacle. My kids would love that.
Brian (29m 6s):
Yeah. You know, it's funny, like we could laugh about this stuff, but it, I it's like one of those things where like, it's just something everyone's just gotten away from, right? Just from modern living. And it's like these small little things that you can do that over time they can make an impact on your health. What type of things do you feel like it's helped for you and sort of changed, I don't know, change your life or, or other people that you've worked with or helped?
Carrie (29m 29s):
Yeah, I mean, I would say one of the, the first things I noticed with this was an improvement in energy and not like the kind of caffeine jolt we get, but just that natural increase we're supposed to get of our own body's energy production, you know, that I like, not just at the mitochondrial level, but truly in my brain feeling more energized in my brain, in my body. That that was the first thing I noticed. I also noticed a clarity of thought. I was really brain foggy. I I was so, I was basically fatigued, brain foggy and puffy, my digestion stunk. And all of those things within a matter of three weeks completely went away. And I did nothing to change my nutrition.
Carrie (30m 10s):
I did nothing to change, you know, my movement practices. It was simply from light alone. And so that was huge, right? And then on the other end, when I blocked the artificial light at night, my sleep, my insomnia went away, you know, because I was starting to make melatonin again. And so that was very helpful. And th those are things that people will notice very quickly. I also not, I also, people who notice improvements in things like thyroid numbers because light can help with thyroid health. I've noticed hormone balancing effects, whether it's getting people getting, getting people, women back on a regular monthly cycle, whether it's a optimizing fertility, that's huge because again, we key in on the light signals for all of that. And our mitochondria specifically key in on the morning light signals to help make hormones for us.
Carrie (30m 55s):
So we wanna get those signals to our, to our brain through our eyes, you know, I mean anxiety and depression, like especially seasonal depression, but, but anxiety and depression in general, I see a big boost in terms of the ability for the body to handle that. When we get morning light and we block the artificial light at night learning and memory concentration, I teach a couple of college courses and that's some feedback that I get from college students where it's like, it's easier for me to recall and remember things go into long-term memory storage, you know, so I, I'm, I'm better able to focus on that. Oh, you know, I mean I feel like it's, I feel like it kind of just runs the gamut because of how foundational it is.
Carrie (31m 35s):
You see a lot of, a lot of changes.
Brian (31m 37s):
Well, you know, it's interesting because a lot of the stuff that you talked about, I almost felt a little bit of that just like being in Chicago for the winter and then you go to like, whatever, say you go to Mexico or Florida 85 degrees sunny every day, you're going for morning walks and it's beautiful. And then you're, you're outside and you're, you know, like I was doing like outside yoga, so I'm on the grass and it, I I will say like, if you want just like a, a tidbit of, of what all this can do, it's just like how it's like recharging your battery when you come back. And so I think to your point, like doing this, like doing the things that you're talking about that we've talked about already on a daily or weekly basis, wherever you're at, I think can help sort of keep that going to some degree as opposed to just going on vacation, feeling it coming back and then getting back into that old sort of, you know, feeling.
Carrie (32m 27s):
Yeah, you're exactly right. It's like that's going on, so I'm gonna be gonna Mexico in two weeks. I'm super excited about it cuz it does, it feels like a super recharge right? But it doesn't mean mean that I have to feel like crap before going to Mexico or when I come back, right. If I that, that I'll, I'll probably be outdoors barefoot on the sand, you know? Yeah. 10 hours a day, right? Like that's gonna feel really, really good. Right? But when I come back, if I can continue to do my little light practices, getting outside, naked eyes, sky gazing, touching the earth, going for a morning walk, all of those things, they're small, seemingly insignificant, but they actually really make the body feel good. And you'll just add to that big benefit, that big boost you got in Florida, I'm gonna get in Mexico.
Carrie (33m 8s):
So it's not like we have to just go on vacation to get the effect. We can get it even when we're in, in the Midwest in the middle of winter, almost spring. Let's hope it, let's hope it comes sooner than later.
Brian (33m 19s):
Yeah, no, that, that makes a lot of sense. And is there anything else that you put into your routine to sort of help with circadian rhythm or I know you talk, you talk a little bit about cold therapy or, or things like that. Anything else that you try to implement?
Carrie (33m 35s):
Yeah, I, I do try to implement cold therapy. I feel like that's can be a, if, if one is willing to experiment with cold plunges, I feel like that's a really good way to facilitate mitochondrial support, really heal my damaged mitochondria. And so I do like cold thermogenesis, cold plunging. I personally hate cold showers. I would rather plunge in a cold tub any day and take a cold shower. So cold plunging for me, I, I will do that leading up to winter and I'll do that in the middle of the summer almost. But you know, this time of year cold plunging is a desire i, I want nothing to do with the cold anymore. You know, my body is ready for the heat, so, so yeah. Cold therapy can be very supportive because it's kind of weird to think, but when my body gets cold it has to heat up.
Carrie (34m 22s):
So the, my mi and my mitochondria, there's certain mitochondria, my body in something called brown adipose tissue that do that for me. And so when I get cold, my mitochondria generate more infrared heat, that infrared charges my water battery. And again, it goes back to what's happening with that exclusion zone water inside of me. So cold plunging, when's inappropriately, it can be a really great strategy,
Brian (34m 44s):
Right? I always say, you know, cold, I use cold plunging a decent amount, but it's, you know, it's also a stressor on the body and Exactly. You know, it's not really meant for individuals who are, let's say like not doing some of the things we've already talked about. Maybe not getting good sleep, you know, not eating right or whatever. I know we haven't talked about that, but it, you know, we talk a lot eating all the time on this podcast. And I think that like, it goes to show you that that is just one aspect, right? Like there's so many other things that maybe people overlook, you know? Yeah. That we've touched on.
Carrie (35m 16s):
Yeah. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. I mean, and, and I, I just want more, more people to recognize. It's not like, it's not like we have, we can eat crap right? And feel awesome, right? I think it's important. It is very important to focus on what we're eating, but that gets to myopic. We have to be when we, when there's this whole other area as well that we can use to support our bodies. And you're absolutely right. Cold. Some, some of the, of the ways that I see cold being kind of done, you know, on social media cuz that's where I am. It's like, it just kind of makes me roll my eyes, okay, I'm gonna cold plunge in this ice tub for 30 minutes. I'm doing a 30 day, yeah. 30 minute ice tub challenge. You know, it's like, talk about how to kill your, yeah. Stress your body out to the max. You're absolutely right.
Carrie (35m 56s):
And so cold therapy for people who feel like their body is ready for it and or they, they kinda walk their way in slowly with baby steps. I think it could be very, very supportive, but otherwise it can definitely tip the scale and to being a major stressor.
Brian (36m 11s):
And I, I'm not gonna let you leave without answering the question about the drinking water. I almost forgot, you know, we have a, we have like a water filtration, nothing crazy in our house. And I, I always think, I'm like, well, could I, you know, I've talked to a few other people who have mentioned a few like different types of units you can get. Like is there certain, is there certain water that you recommend people drinking?
Carrie (36m 36s):
Yeah, and I don't do any exclusive product recommendations. I test out bunches of stuff and so I'm not, I I can give product recommendations, but I wanna tell people first what needs to happen with their water. Most of our drinking water is just toxic. I think we can pull up any municipal tap water supply and recognize there's, there's stuff in it we don't want, there's medications that don't get taken out. There's tons of chlorine as a disinfectant. There's the potential for heavy metals and other things. So just art toxins, right? We don't need to overburden the body with more toxins. We get enough toxin exposure as it as it is on a regular basis. So number one, I want people to filter it and I want to them to filter it to the best of their ability. And if they can do something like reverse osmosis, that's great cuz you're pretty much getting all the crap out.
Carrie (37m 19s):
But water in nature, natural drinking water is not just completely pure. There's natural minerals and there's natural structure to it and that might get a little too woo for some people. But I wanna go there because I think it's important to recognize that purifying it as step one, that's great. But number two, natural drinking water has minerals in it. It's got minerals and electrolytes and so I like people to add minerals and electrolytes back in and I prefer a trace blend. So not just kinda like these electrolyte powders that have the main ones you see the sodium, potassium, magnesium, those sorts of ones. So I do like something like a, a Quinton Mineral or a Trace Minerals. Those are good brands to, I've
Brian (37m 58s):
Sort of, I've heard of Quinton Water. Yeah,
Carrie (38m 0s):
Yeah. Quinton, Quinton,
Brian (38m 1s):
Quin Quinton, however you wanna say it.
Carrie (38m 3s):
Yeah. Yeah. That was made by, or that was discovered a long time ago. It's basically purified seawater on these really pure beds in near France, the coast of France where, where Renee Quinton, he, it, it mimics the same electrolyte blend of as the blood plasma. So he literally has infused people with it as a, as a means of supplementing blood if it was needed. And so it's a really beautiful electrolyte blood. It's got the full balance of what our body needs. So I think if we're gonna drink something, I want it to mimic really closely my, my blood plasma that's very similar to my cerebral spinal fluid as well. So something like that is beautiful to add back in. So get out the garbage, add in the minerals, and then there's structure, there's movement.
Carrie (38m 49s):
Water in nature is never stagnant, right? And so I've got clients who like to vortex their water. I've got clients who like to stir it. I've got clients who like to structure it with things like the anma wand, but guess what, you can even structure that stuff with intention, which is woo as heck. But honestly the, the massive amounts of labs that have repeated that research and, and confirm that you could literally think loving thoughts into your water. And it rearranges how the water molecules connect to each other in their hydrogen bonds is pretty impressive. So when in doubt, purify put some minerals in it and then think something nice, right? You know, put a wish into the water. I think there's a reason why every culture historically had this kind of the idea of expressing gratitude for food, for drink prayer.
Carrie (39m 35s):
And I think it does more, it's more than just, you know, expressing gratitude. I think it's actually changing at that quantum level, some qualitative properties of the water. So I would say structure water and if you need to use intention, that's a beautiful way to do it.
Brian (39m 49s):
Do you use trace minerals? Like I know those, those trace mineral drops. I've, I've, I've used them from time to time.
Carrie (39m 55s):
Yeah. Yeah. I've used those trace mineral drops. I like Aussie trace minerals, that brand in particular. Okay. I think they do a really nice job for the Quinton Minerals. I actually, I use it, I put it in my water sometimes, but I actually take that as a straight mineral supplement. I think it's a very good one to help, to help some mineral replacements. So I'll do Quinton pretty much just as a straight ampu it's called. And then I'll add the Aussie Tracee minerals into my drinking water. Although recently I've tested out over the course of the past, oh, I'm, we're probably looking at six months now. I have a whole or an under the sink unit from a company called Spring Aqua that basically does it all right. It filters, it remineralize with a natural mineral blend. It structures it, it vortex is it, and it can add molecular hydrogen.
Carrie (40m 39s):
There's the option for it to add in hydrogen to the water, which hydrogen added hydrogen in the water has a more antioxidant effect. And it, and it helps to actually make the water even more hydrating, if you will, for my body to use it.
Brian (40m 51s):
And you've, you've put that in your house. Yeah,
Carrie (40m 53s):
I put that in about six months ago and I, I, I love it. It's easy. Before I was doing kind of different steps of, okay, what types of RO systems can I use? What types of remineralize structuring can I do? So I've, I've tested it all and having a company that really gets it and it does the whole, the whole thing for you and it doesn't use, it doesn't even use any electricity, right? So everything was, we, when we lost power in an ice storm, you know, a couple weeks ago it was still doing its thing, you know, so it was, it was really beautiful to, to have that system available. And it just has two, like a spout, right? That comes like you would see with a reverse osmosis system right next to your, your faucet, but two handles, one with regular water that has all the things that I talked about. And then one that adds molecular hydrogen if you want as well.
Brian (41m 33s):
Hmm. Wow. And that's called Spring Aqua?
Carrie (41m 35s):
Spring aqua, yeah. Yeah. Kenny from that company, he's a big water nerd. He really gets it. So,
Brian (41m 40s):
And and are they all over because you're in Michigan? I'm in Chicago. They're probably, they probably could come.
Carrie (41m 45s):
Yeah. Yeah. They, they sent someone out to, to install it and get me all set up with that. So it was really cool. Interesting.
Brian (41m 52s):
Wow. This has been great. Is there anything we've missed? Anything? Anything that you feel like quantum habits, have we missed any quantum habits?
Carrie (42m 2s):
You know, no. I mean I just can't emphasize enough getting outside whenever possible and then if you can take it that next step further, finding a green space, getting into nature. Yeah. There's just so much that happens when we, when we do that and kind of step away from the technologies. We didn't talk a ton about non-native mfs, which is a, it's a, I mean that's a whole podcast in and of itself, right? But, but it just suffice it to say that our techno technology and our, our wireless stuff, it's just not great for us. Right. And if we can kind of step away from that and get into a natural setting, it's really, really supportive of our health. So I encourage once a week if that's, if someone can get into a green space, a true natural setting to do so.
Brian (42m 44s):
EMFs. Right. We'll touch on it a little bit. Cause I am curious, w do you use any products around the house? I have a few things that I've bought you. You know, it's like you have to sort of trust the company, the product, whether it's working or not. So, and they're not cheap. I'm trying to think of the name. It's strong.
Carrie (43m 3s):
There's Veic, there's Li Laue, there's a, there's Blue Shield cubes, there's a lot of companies out there that are working on harmonizing stuff.
Brian (43m 12s):
Yeah. Is there, is there anything that you use around the house?
Carrie (43m 18s):
I mean, I've tested some of it and I've tested Blue, blue Cube or Blue Shield their cube. I, I would say my strategy with this is I try to, I try to hardwire and mitigate first, so like reduce my exposure and then I try to harmonize. So, you know, I mean, I'm old school, right? I don't, people can see this, but you can for sure, right? That I've, I, I hardwire everything. I've got the old schooled keyboard and mouse and, you know, ethernet internet. It's just, I, I found that that can, that really took my workstation from a high non-native E M F exposure to almost nothing. If I had my meter here, it would show practically zero. So I'm really not in a space where I'm being bombarded with electromagnetic fields.
Carrie (43m 59s):
And then I also try to tell people if they can, in their bedroom environment, you know, so yeah, unplug your wifi at night, try to t turn off your devices, put 'em somewhere else. Just get, get that stuff out of your room. That can really help to put the body into a deeper sleep and, and support melatonin levels at night when you are sleeping. So that's what I encourage people to do because I feel like the harmonizers, I, I think the technology is there. Or let's say the, the Quantum, the theory behind it is absolutely there. And some people have shown it, like Ibraham Kareem has shown it on a large scale, he's harmonized EMFs in cities at the city citywide level. So I think the research is there. I just don't know if there's a device where I've plugged it in and of like, and I'm like, oh yeah, like that was, that's the ticket, right?
Carrie (44m 45s):
That, that took everything to that level of just peace and harmony. So yeah, I'm, I'm not, I'm not there
Brian (44m 50s):
Yet. So the company I was thinking of was Aris Tech. Have you heard of them?
Carrie (44m 53s):
Oh, I have. Yeah. They've reached out. I would, I I, what I appreciate about Aris Tech, Aris Tech is that, you know, anything that could help someone's heart rate variability, I think is a good thing. And so if they, they do, they show improvements in heart rate variability. But what I don't love is the idea that I think it gives a false sense of safety. It's like, okay, these stickers often, and oftentimes it's not just Aris Tech. Oftentimes with companies, it's a sticker of some sort or an attachment to something. It's like, okay, put these stickers on your AirPods and it's totally fine to have wireless radiation shot into your brain. You know, I, I just, I I can't go there. I, I don't think it has has enough of a supportive of effect to, to prevent the, what I think could be some pretty excessive damage that happens when people wear AirPods to the extent that they're wearing these days or using a cellphone on the side of their head.
Brian (45m 43s):
Yeah, I mean, I, people wear AirPods and they have 'em in their head all day. It's like, I never even, I never have 'em on at all. So I don't really get high. You gotta wear 'em all day. But
Carrie (45m 54s):
Yeah, I hear you. I know, I, I, I've never owned a pair. I, I get, I get, cords are annoying, cords are ugly, cords are not cool, whatever. But you can do the same thing with a set of corded headphones and be just fine.
Brian (46m 4s):
Yeah. And then you have an m f meter that you just
Carrie (46m 8s):
Yeah, I've got the tri field too. That's a really good one. Safe and Sound is another brand that I like, pretty user-friendly to be able to just walk around the tri field two is fun cuz it does beep too. So you can set it on the beep for you use for you to really, if you don't know what the numbers are saying, right, just listen for when the beep goes ba it's like, oh, that's high mf. Right? And I wanna try to mitigate it if at all possible.
Brian (46m 29s):
Yeah, that's cool. That's something that could be next on my list when we're done talking here. I'm gonna run into the, run into my backyard bare feet.
Carrie (46m 38s):
I love it. I probably will do the same thing actually.
Brian (46m 42s):
Well this was great, Carrie, where's the best place? Well, actually before I, I usually ask this question for most individuals that come on my podcast. And what would you, what, what's one tip you'd give individuals, men or women who maybe are looking to get their, their body, their, their, their mind back to what it once was maybe 10, 15 years ago? What one tip would you give that individual
Carrie (47m 6s):
Get outside in the morning naked eyes? Yeah, I, I, I think that that really, if you can te if you can tell your body the time of day, it'll know when it, when the time is to regenerate at night. So I guess it's twofold. Tell it the time of day. Block the light at night so it knows when to regenerate and you can literally reverse age the damage while you sleep. And so really key.
Brian (47m 26s):
Love that. Love that. Where, where can people find it? Carrie?
Carrie (47m 30s):
You know, I got two hubs. I am on Instagram, that is my primary social media site. So Carrie, be wellness on Instagram. Okay. And then my website, carrie be wellness.com is where you can go to explore my courses certification or if you're just a consumer wanting to look into how you dive into this a little bit deeper, you can join my community and we'd nerd out about this stuff. So would love to see anyone there.
Brian (47m 52s):
Well, thank you so much for coming on the show, Carrie.
Carrie (47m 55s):
Thanks for having me. Brian, we talked about so much. This was great.
Brian (47m 59s):
Yeah, so much and different topics than we usually talk about, so I really appreciate it. Thanks for listening to the Get Lean e klean podcast. I understand there are millions of other podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine and I appreciate that. Check out the show firstname.lastname@example.org for everything that was mentioned in this episode. Feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member that's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again and have a great day.
For years since college, I'd had health issues, even though I looked healthy. I was a personal trainer and a massage practitioner, but I didn't know why my joints were painful, why I didn't have great energy, and why I just generally didn't feel very well. Then I had my first child and that's when insomnia truly hit. I was exhausted at the end of every day but still couldn't sleep. Eventually, I developed digestion problems, and things started to really spiral from there.
Then, I decided to get a Master's degree in Clinical Nutrition, certain that food was the answer. But even after all that training, food only moved the needle a little. So, I started to question if feeling this way was as good as it would get—if it was all due to "aging" or if I was a typical "tired parent." But I couldn't buy into it. Just because issues are "common" doesn't mean they're "normal."
That's when I came across quantum biology. It was mind-boggling to me that no one had ever told me about my light environment before, or what electrons and water have to do with our health—especially because they're so simple, inexpensive, and widely available in something we so often overlook: Nature.
Nature, in the form of light, water, electrons, and mitochondria, changed my life. And once I started to teach all of this information to others, it started to change their lives, too.