Brian (0s):
Week I interviewed Jason Ott. Jason is the founder of Empowered Prevention and is a certified herbal nutrition consultant with over 15 plus years of experience and over 20,000 hours of helping clients heal, we discussed the power of herbs healing and his autoimmune disease, along with Jason's daily Rituals of Health, Power of nutrient dense foods, overcoming heavy metal exposure, and much, much more. Really enjoyed my interview with Jason. I know you will too. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the show. All right. Welcome to the Get Lean, Eat Clean podcast. My name is Brian Gryn and I have Jason Addon. Welcome to the show.
Jason (41s):
Hello. Thank you for having me.
Brian (43s):
Thanks for coming on. Founder of Empowered Prevention and you're a certified herbal Nutrition health consultant.
Jason (52s):
Yes. Yes.
Brian (53s):
I don't think I've had, I was thinking about this. I've had, I don't think I've had too many herbal experts on, so that'll be something different for the audience.
Jason (1m 1s):
Good, good. We can definitely dive into it.
Brian (1m 4s):
What made you get into sort of that niche of health and nutrition?
Jason (1m 10s):
Hey, I, I think it kind of in a a weird way, chose me. I originally went to school for exercise science, learning about more on the corrective exercise, how the body doesn't break down over time. Yes, I liked building it up and whatnot, but I was more interested in like preserving the longevity of the body. And that original school that I did, it left some holes in my education. So my lifestyle wasn't the best to the point of I had an autoimmune condition that got developed in my early twenties. So I pursued more information and at that time, that's when I came across herbalism.
Jason (1m 51s):
'cause I was early, mid twenties, strapped for cash, already had a grocery budget. And so I was looking for things to include in my day to help my health. And so I slowly started dabbling there and self-teaching for my own health. And then that slowly evolved into what it is now.
Brian (2m 12s):
And you know, autoimmune is fairly broad topic. Yeah. It's, it's probably something that's people use a lot and they're not sure like what steps to take and like what was your story around, you know, how, how like herbalism sort of got help you with your autoimmune?
Jason (2m 29s):
Yeah. Well so I had colitis, so it's a digestive autoimmune condition. Okay. Cousin of Crohn's, different forms of IBS. We usually get hit with that label and I know enough to know that from my original schooling about the microbiome. So knowing I lived on this planet for a couple decades and didn't have those problems, I had that first initial thought of like, okay, well is there something I can do for my microbiome and my gut bacteria? And some of the first places I found was studying the phytochemicals in that of herbs. And so it just slowly opened the door of like digestive health, liver health.
Jason (3m 9s):
I had high blood pressure. That was one of the first symptoms. So it, it started with small things and seeing a result and it made me more curious.
Brian (3m 19s):
Hmm. And then from there you turned it into a business?
Jason (3m 23s):
Yes. Right. Yes. So I was blessed enough to already kind of have a one-on-one practice going Okay. In, in nutrition and exercise in that. So I just converted my path and who I was working with after that. Hmm.
Brian (3m 40s):
And then how long did it take to overcome your colitis and, and and that whole diagnosis?
Jason (3m 47s):
Yeah, fully meaning all my main symptoms gone remission, I'm not getting flareups. I'd say between two and two and a half years. The first six months were rough. It almost didn't feel like anything I was doing was helping because it was so chronic at the time. So I'd made a lot of nutrition changes, herbal changes, there were positives, don't get me wrong, but that process of healing naturally takes time. But since I was seeing little positive gains, I was like, what do I have to lose? It's just the stuff I'm putting in my mouth eating wise. And it kept snowballing.
Jason (4m 27s):
So like my major, like the blood in my stool, the constipation, the high blood pressure, some of these big ones that can raise comorbidities, those were all pretty much wrapped up in the first year. Then it was all these random things that had accompanied some of the bigger symptoms.
Brian (4m 45s):
And what were some of the steps? Like did you cut out certain foods? Like what type of lifestyle changes did you make?
Jason (4m 52s):
Yeah, so I'd, I was already eating a pretty whole food diet. Like there's some processed foods and things in there minimally processed. But I'd already shifted to like organic meats, organic, everything I could possibly get my hands on. But I don't think it was too heavy in foods that were supportive of my liver, of my blood health and of my microbiome. So those began to suffer over the years. It was more about the outside of my body. So I knew how to get the proteins, I knew how to get the healthy fats. I didn't understand the nutrient density of helping my actual immune system at a cellular level so I didn't have to deal with that colitis.
Jason (5m 35s):
So I learned a lot more about how to incorporate the right whole plant foods and herbs for my body. 'cause everyone is different to actually get the change to happen.
Brian (5m 49s):
And if someone's looking to heal from, you know, herbs, like what's the first step for that individual to do? Like I'm sure there's probably thousands of verbs out there. Yeah. So it probably could be overwhelming.
Jason (6m 3s):
The first thing I tell people is know what they're used for. I think that we have a problem in health where we say something's healthy and we think the same definition can be true for all things from all perspectives. So herbs are not like pharmaceutical drugs in America. A lot of the herbs that are more toxic or that can be stimulating to change your health like medications do, aren't even allowed to be here. So a lot of the herbs that we're dealing with, they're not gonna be aggressive and fix a problem like that. It's gonna be looking to build up the structure and function of the organ systems that you, that are impaired so to speak.
Jason (6m 47s):
So I would say first off, you gotta have your mindset is like it's not gonna work that way. Most of the herbs are meant to be taken long term. And I say food grade people get scared about it of, well is it toxic? Can I take too much this or that? But food grade herbs, you can take 'em every day, you can take 'em for months and that's usually how they work best, aside from a handful of other ones that I use.
Brian (7m 12s):
Hmm. And what are some of the more like popular ones that people turn to to sort of restore their health?
Jason (7m 18s):
Yeah, well geez, turmeric and the black pepper craze that went through here and still is so turmeric's one, a lot of people know about ginger elderberry, those popup when it's that time of year when people are getting sick immune system wise. Hmm. But I'd say even ashwagandha, astragalus, these are two that actually have a lot of use in the cancer and autoimmune world too. So on social media land and they get credit for other benefits but they are, they're two that are used a lot in integrative oncology and integrative cancer care.
Brian (7m 55s):
What were those two again?
Jason (7m 57s):
Astragalus and ashwagandha.
Brian (7m 59s):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I gotta imagine this market has grown quite a bit. Have you seen it, I mean you've been, how long have you been doing this for and have you seen a lot of growth in this AR area?
Jason (8m 12s):
Yeah, since COVID. Yeah. COVID changed a lot for people prior to that. I think I was shouting for the rooftops for three or four years and not getting much traction. And then once that happened and it blew that up to where now more people are open to hearing about other options, they're less, less likely to pick either or and they're more about, well can I do that and do this? And so it's becoming more of an and conversation than it either or. Hmm.
Brian (8m 45s):
And this sort of led you to your book No Cure, no problem. What, what sort of inspired you to write the book?
Jason (8m 53s):
That's, that's a loaded question. Obviously my childhood, obviously my own battles with health and different forms of schooling. But I think what I said earlier about the vague things of health, like if you asked a marathoner what's healthy versus the bodybuilder versus the 80-year-old woman, they're all gonna have a different definition for you. So I was running into a major education gap talking with my clients So they understood I met you day one, you want the end result of being in remission or improving your health, but what we're not talking about laid out is the process to get there.
Jason (9m 39s):
And so I felt like I was wasting to some degree the time of the person I was working with trying to educate in a session on that instead of the practical action items. So it's a big part of education where they can read that, come back, have better questions for me. And also I found a lot of people don't know that there's different forms of medical professionals. They just think there's only one kind. So I wanted the patients, the clients I work with to be able to ask better questions, find better healthcare and build their own team integrative wise. 'cause in Nebraska, integrative medicine's not really a thing right now.
Jason (10m 23s):
Other states are in a different place. We are not
Brian (10m 26s):
Oh, you guys are, are stuck behind a little bit old school.
Jason (10m 32s):
Yeah. Yeah. So people are kind of piecing it together themselves. There are some good doctors here trying to, but the legislation insurance wise, it's just, it's not there yet.
Brian (10m 41s):
Right. Yeah. And what's one thing maybe you've changed your mind on in the past, let's say 10 years?
Jason (10m 52s):
That probably the biggest thing is you don't need to be perfect at a modality if you're willing to layer your care. Yes. I'm gonna take a a dietary way. There are ways to eat a very specific diet to address type two diabetes or reverse heart disease. Very specific. But 99% of people that have a family that have a job, they can't live that day after day. Right. Right. So it's like that's very specific. It works, we know it works, but we need to find a gray area. So I think 10 years ago I was so stuck on what I knew worked 'cause I didn't have the experience of this person and this person and why.
Jason (11m 40s):
So over the last 10 years, finding more of a gray area to meet someone where they're at and just fill in the gaps versus me trying to push 'em one direction. Man, I've seen healing happen for people when I look at their food and I go, what the heck? You should not be eating that or having that. But due to all the things they're doing, they're moving the needle forward. So my mindset's really changed about how much damage the human body can take and how much it can come back from.
Brian (12m 14s):
Yeah. That is for sure, right. You can put your body through quite a bit. I mean it's good and it's bad, right? You can put your body through a lot of abuse and come, come back and end up on the, on the other end. But yeah, you're better off I think being proactive about it rather than waiting for something to happen. Right. And then, and then trying to make a comeback.
Jason (12m 36s):
Yes. Yes. That's the mission anyway.
Brian (12m 39s):
Yeah. Our bodies and and minds are fairly resilient, you know, what would you, what like as far as like healing with plants is just something that you do on a daily basis. Are you like, you know, juicing or like what, what are type of, the sort of daily rituals that you like to do?
Jason (12m 56s):
Okay, my current daily rituals, I used to juice. I have, but that, that would be one of those things that has changed is like I'm more zoomed out and said is it the juice or that specific juice or is it the daily ritual of waking up drinking 20 to 30 ounces of something naturally hydrating with electrolytes, getting your day started that way. And I think that's more it start your day with hydration. I've done it with cucumber juice or apple juices, like juicing it myself, celery juice. But right now it's a lemon water with some raw honey, low fulvic acid. That's how I start my day. Nice. That's every day. So I get ahead of my hydration and use a natural source of electrolytes versus buying a supplement.
Jason (13m 40s):
And then I find it easier to take one, whether you call it a protein shaker smoothie, you can have protein powder in it if you want or not. But I want a one place to be the vehicle for all of those micronutrients. So the rest of my day I am not worried if I got enough fresh food or if I'm missing this nutrient. So I have my own version of my smoothie that I put my herbs in, some wild blueberries, some various powders. And that's what I chuck down in the morning as part of my breakfast. If not my breakfast, depending on my day. But those two things, that's every single morning. Mm. For me. And then herb wise, I mean this would be what you call an herbal infusion.
Jason (14m 24s):
So I'm finishing this guy off. I usually make this little
Brian (14m 26s):
Vodka in there. Kidding? What's that? That's that little vodka in there. Looks like Now I, right. No, it actually looks more, it looks like rum. But no,
Jason (14m 37s):
The, that's so like a typical bag of tea has two teaspoons, maybe three teaspoons in that bag, right in my infusion. I'm taking a four inch by six inch bag and I'm putting like 10 to 12 tablespoons of various herbs. I brew it overnight. I drink that throughout the day so you can get a high therapeutic amount of them to sip on throughout the day.
Brian (15m 1s):
Love it, love it. So you start your day out, you hydrate lemon water. Honey, what was the last thing you added to Oh, fulvic acid. Yeah, for gut, that's fulvic acid mainly geared towards gut health, right?
Jason (15m 16s):
Yeah. And how we personally, how I use it for my health was as a binder for like heavy metals and pesticides. So the clinic I work out of, we do different therapies for heavy metal toxicity.
Brian (15m 29s):
Okay.
Jason (15m 29s):
And that is that along with activated charcoal are some of the best binders for that stuff. So I start my day with it. So it's hitting my liver from the jump and giving my body a little margin to the toxicity I'm gonna come up against.
Brian (15m 48s):
And, and then as far as just like eating habits and eating routine, how does that look
Jason (15m 56s):
In general whole food. So I tell everybody, eat the cleanest meat you can find the portion or the percentage of that is varies for everybody. But I want it to be whole food organic if possible. Any fruit, vegetable, herb, nut seed or spice that agrees with your body and your biology. Bring that in and then figure out what your, your metabolic rate is. So you're not under nursing essentially at that point is like you pick your sauces, your seasonings, customize it for your household if you got kids. And as long as it's consisting of 90, 95% whole foods, that's what I aim for. So you're gonna find every one of my meals, every one of my snacks is usually gonna be something that is grown from the earth.
Brian (16m 43s):
And you said in there, figure out your metabolic rate. I mean I've had a lot of pro metabolic individuals on the podcast and they talk about measuring temperature and pulse. Is that what you mean by figuring out metabolic rate or is that
Jason (16m 57s):
Less specific than that? Unless the client wants to go there. If they want to go there, I'm gonna follow 'em. But I try not to stress people out depending on where they're at. Just generally speaking, I feel like diet culture has conditioned us in, especially women to think about eating so much less. And then when we put pen to paper, I'm like, well you don't even have a day's worth of your magnesium or your vitamin C, like you start missing these nutrients because you just aren't getting enough whole food in your body. So I do it more of that side of like if you're coming to me to heal, to improve your health, we can't be deficient in the same nutrients that help repair the tissue.
Jason (17m 39s):
So we're looking at that of like, you can eat above it but I just don't want you to malnourished anymore. Most people are that are coming to see me.
Brian (17m 49s):
Yeah, it's it, I think it's a great way to look at like eating in itself as like, are you getting in like the RDAs? Like I know the RDAs aren't like perfect and it's a governmental sort of measurement. But like I had Kathleen Stewart on, I don't know if you're familiar with Kathleen Stewart, but that's what she likes to go by is like, are you getting in the micronutrients? You know, I think we get so caught up in, you know, carbs, proteins, fats. Well there's so much more that goes into our food. I mean you're getting, you know, when you do your own juicing, I mean, you know you're getting in a lot of those micronutrients right away. So you're allowing the body to just heal on its own.
Jason (18m 28s):
Right. Give setting the environment, given it what it needs. Right. No agree. And that's, you said it perfectly is there's too much focus on calories, protein, fat, carbs. A lot of people are doing better in that area or understand it well enough. Sure. What they don't understand is the micros and that's what's gonna heal 'em up.
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Brian (19m 28s):
So there you have it. I'll leave a link in the show notes for my stepladder system book. Now back to the podcast, right? Like, I mean what type of micronutrients are we getting? If we have like pizza. Pizza, right? Think about that. Like flour, water, you know, tomato paste and cheese. Like you're probably getting some calcium. I mean you're getting, I don't know,
Jason (19m 53s):
No prebiotics. Yeah, no phytochemicals.
Brian (19m 56s):
Right. And like I think if you take that sort of like lens when it comes to nutrition and don't get so caught up in like calories. And I'm not saying they don't, they, they don't play a role but like calories and macronutrients, which everyone's talking macronutrients all the time. What about like, like you said like just you know, iron, zinc, calcium, potassium, you know, are you getting this from your foods and just take a practical look at it and I think that's a great way to go about like sort of making your plate.
Jason (20m 26s):
I agree. Yeah, I agree. And So we try to shift that mindset. That's what I mean by metabolic rate.
Brian (20m 33s):
Okay. And from that standpoint, like obviously you know, there's a lot of like marketing out there for these like super greens and this and that, but like really I think you could do it on your own, right? Like you said, like what would you say you make, you said you make a smoothie quite a decent amount. I mean some people maybe don't want to sit there and juice all day, right? But what would you say are like some sort of high level things that you like to put in or or you recommend for individuals So they can feed, you know, feed their, their body with the right nutrients?
Jason (21m 8s):
Yeah. Okay. Good question. So I do like the blends, but just keep in mind like for anyone listening, it's like the people that come to see me in this clinic, 9.9 outta 10 of 'em have an autoimmune cancer heart disease, they're sick, right? So like ag one good product, good blend, got it. But it's meant to be overall health and wellness. If you are in a therapeutic need, that's not gonna be my first choice for you. We need a higher amount, we need some different things. If you want to take it day to day, great. But we need to look at some other stuff. So our focus is microbiome, heavy metals, pesticides and radiation and then fulfilling nutrient deficiencies.
Jason (21m 56s):
That's the easiest way to sum up what we do here. So part of that morning routine is I want things that are gonna give your body what it needs to protect us against heavy metal exposure, which we all get exposed. So spirulina is one of my favorites. Barley grass juice, powder, Cilantro, wild blueberries, parsley, those are all great foundational nutrient dense. But also helping our body to detox. So those go in there. I don't put partially in mine but I put all the other things. And then chaga mushroom, that's another great one for liver health for keeping your white and red cells healthy.
Jason (22m 41s):
But those all are some foundational ones because between one teaspoon of spirulina, one teaspoon of barley grass juice powder, you have all 20 essential amino acids. You have almost a day's worth of vitamins and minerals. But then you get into, oh it has phytochemicals and it has antioxidants and it does bind to metals. And a lot of the integrative cancer clinics will use those type of things on days of like radiation and chemotherapy because of how safe they are. But they also bind to the toxic side effects of those treatments.
Brian (23m 18s):
Hmm. Yeah. So you're dealing with obviously people with specific issues and things that could be, you know, obviously life-threatening.
Jason (23m 26s):
Yes. Okay. Yes. So then it's like I do a similar approach of what I did to heal as a maintenance as long as it doesn't hinder my body. Right. But I feel like with all those different powders, there are some products to keep you in maintenance healing just might look different until you get to that point and get your levels down.
Brian (23m 47s):
Got it. Yeah. Are there any like products off the top of your head that you, you liked? Like I know you mentioned Ag one, they're like all over the place and they, you know, that's like the big player. But are there any maybe other off brands that that Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Jason (24m 5s):
I really like right now the company micro ingredients. I don't know if you've come across them. I've I've,
Brian (24m 11s):
Yeah.
Jason (24m 13s):
Actually requested their lab testing. 'cause one of the big things I need to know is like, are you guys testing for heavy metals? Especially if things like spirulina and, and yeah, any, any products nowadays is making sure they're not toxic.
Brian (24m 25s):
Did they come back? Do they have, did they come back to you? Yeah.
Jason (24m 30s):
Yeah. Okay. They got that back. Another company for mushrooms is called Real mushrooms. They are just doing a phenomenal job. They're testing for toxicity is great, but their compounds are verified. And that's one thing in herbalism learned a lot about, especially like the labels on products. And there's a lot of mushroom products that think they're marketing the right thing. But just my eye, if it's not an extract, you are getting hosed. 'cause you have to extract those mushrooms to get 'em into a form our bodies can absorb. Mm. And so a lot of the ones that are like entire fruiting body or, and they're not actually explaining what the extraction rate is, that's a red flag.
Brian (25m 17s):
Well that's good to know. Yeah, I'm looking at real mushrooms. They have a, the five defenders and it looks like they have a Lion Maine. Those are their, their big ones. I had, you can check out his company Collin Stucker, they Wild Foods, my name. Yeah, it is a name. I've heard that name. Yeah. Well he's been on my podcast like five times, but we've just become friends. But he has a wild foods.co as his company. I've gotten a few mushroom blends from him as well. You know, the thing about the mushroom blends is I'll put 'em sometimes in a, in a, like a shake or something. It's subtle, right? Like you're not gonna like start like jumping off the roof and doing things, you know, like chaga reishi are, do you find that like it just takes time to start feeling the results from these compounds?
Jason (26m 8s):
I do. And that's like, let's, let's just assume that it is the right choice for the person. That's, that's how it has to work. We need to give it time to strengthen up the system so it performs better. The cool part is, I tell people is like once you start feeling that that is because the organ system itself is performing better. Not just because you took that, because like to your point, you didn't feel that day one, you felt it four weeks later. So it's like there is a compounding effect. It's kinda like investing your money. You gotta let that thing compound for a while.
Brian (26m 44s):
Yeah, yeah. No, that makes sense. And like, are there certain, like other blends that you like look towards as far as like, I mean you mentioned some of the, the mushrooms, but are there any other specific blends that you like
Jason (27m 4s):
In the herbal world?
Brian (27m 5s):
Yeah.
Jason (27m 9s):
Not so much. I usually go for individuals,
Brian (27m 12s):
Individual ones,
Jason (27m 13s):
Ingredients. Okay. But that's
Brian (27m 17s):
What's a, what's, what's maybe a story of someone that's healed that you've worked with over the past, you know, few years
Jason (27m 24s):
Do tell me autoimmune or cancer, that'll help me narrow it down.
Brian (27m 28s):
Let's do autoimmune.
Jason (27m 29s):
Okay. I'm gonna go with, she's one of the testimonies in my book, but she had Lyme disease. She was young too when she got it, I mean in her twenties, but really bad case. She ended up testing positive for three or four different Lyme viruses plus the co-infections of the bacteria. She hit the ground running, she did integrative care. She used western medicine as she needed to, especially her thyroid was off. So she needed to function. She couldn't function very well. She did go to an integrative clinic in Mexico a few times as well to learn from Lyme specific doctors into, I think wrap her brain around the process of what it takes to make.
Jason (28m 15s):
And then when she'd come back here, we would carry on what she was doing. So I was able to do her diet and her herbs the entire time. They didn't touch that, but when she came back here, I was support for her. So it took, geez, I think it took us a year, year and a half before she even got her first time where the viruses weren't in her blood. 80% of her symptoms were gone. Her longest symptom was still hanging on even a year later. And this girl was on it like the morning routine doing her IVs, getting the stuff out of her body. I mean she was on it. And then the one big thing I learned that isn't just a Lyme disease, that it's an all illness thing that we're starting to connect the dot on is we got our blood health healthy.
Jason (29m 3s):
Like, so when we draw it, oh you're in normal ranges and a lot of our symptoms are better. But then there's like this second wave and learn about it from Lyme. There's like, once your blood gets healthy enough, the cells, the inner organs will release a little bit more that I've been holding onto and you can then have like a relapse or a flare up. And she did, it was six months later she tested positive for a virus again. And then we ironed that out and she's been clean ever since. But there was like this dump out of the organs that came year, year and a half later.
Brian (29m 37s):
Interesting. Hmm.
Jason (29m 38s):
It is. So the process is like her story, those stories, people need to know that because she would've, if we wouldn't have been there, she would've changed everything she was doing. And I'm like, no, you're still doing it. Right. We just need that much more time. I mean it's all of two or three years for almost any chronic condition. Hmm. Doing the right thing unless you're lucky.
Brian (30m 1s):
Yeah. And and Lyme's disease could be very serious. I've known a few people. Brutal. Yeah. And how did she, did she know how she got it?
Jason (30m 13s):
No, not fully. She was bit by ticks when she was younger, But it wasn't a recent bite. It did happen after a pretty emotional traumatic event. And that seems to be a pattern too, a year or two before these big diagnosis, there's something pretty emotional and traumatic that happens. Hmm. So that was definitely a trigger. But one of our blood tests that we do in the clinic can tell us how long, if something's been in someone's body since they were a kid versus just last year. Wow. Okay. So she did have bugs that were doormat from childhood. So our theory is it got reactivated and then she dealt with it then.
Brian (30m 56s):
Wow. That's a So how now she's she's good to go.
Jason (31m 0s):
Yeah. Yeah.
Brian (31m 1s):
That's great. Yeah,
Jason (31m 2s):
She's working full-time. The big symptoms are are gone and she's more in maintenance now, which is a good place to be.
Brian (31m 12s):
And, and we've talked about like sort of your morning routine. Like what about evening? Like to set up a quality sleep? Like are there certain things that you do
Jason (31m 21s):
It? Yes. And so every morning when I'm doing that routine, like I make 10, 15 minutes, whether you call it your quiet time meditation, whatever it is, I do some red light, but I take that time to stop reflect. And I do the same thing at night. So I'm always gonna put my phone down hour before, but every single night I have my little stop reflection time, get the things out of the head that I need to and try to downregulate my body nervous system. Sometimes I do a little bit more red light, but Now I take that really serious. The sleep hygiene. Yeah.
Brian (31m 57s):
I know we talk about it a lot. Red light I've been using in the mornings and in the evenings. Just like there's something about it. Like I know there's been studies around like helping maybe even with like hair growth and collagen production And you know, things that probably take a while to see results perhaps. Or if you know, but like I just think it's, there's something calming about it, you know, like in the evenings and in the mornings. Just like great way to start the day.
Jason (32m 26s):
Agree with you there. Yeah. And I have noticed a difference in my sleep quality if I do it even for eight, 10 minutes at night
Brian (32m 34s):
Before Yeah. Before you go to bed. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I keep, I have a few of 'em, one's, one's in the basement and I'm thinking about getting maybe one more just to have around the house.
Jason (32m 45s):
I love it.
Brian (32m 47s):
What about like when it comes to sleep? Like anything like rei, like are there any maybe some hacks people can use to help natural hacks to help them maybe, you know, fall asleep or you know, relax, relax at
Jason (33m 2s):
Least. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So like, so I'm sure you've come across the ashwagandha at night, Rishi. So in herbalism there adaptogens, So they help the body deal with any form of stress from any source really. And they help bring us back down to baseline. So if you're under, you'll bring up. If you're over, you'll come down. Mm. Those are general. So ashwagandha will work that way of like after a long day bring you down so you have a chance to fall asleep better. But it's not a sleep time. Herbs, so to speak, like Skullcap, passion, flower ian, root hops flower, those are like sedative based herbs.
Jason (33m 44s):
Mm. Meaning you usually can feel like a downregulation to them. Mm. They work especially like skullcap passion flower. You're gonna feel it. Like if I'm making a mocktail or something, you're gonna feel it calm you down. But the cool part is the nourishing part of 'em works on your own neurotransmitter production. Hmm. So a lot of people have issues with that neurotransmitter deficiencies for whatever reasons. So they're not just gonna help you get to sleep, but they're gonna work on the root of restoring neurotransmitter function too. With that being said, I have, that's one thing the last couple years that I've focused a lot on and it's helped too, is figuring out what neurotransmitters my body is deficient in and supplementing some of those at night.
Jason (34m 35s):
So like elthinin, gaba, nac, I take all of those at night with, with those type of herbs.
Brian (34m 43s):
Yeah. How did, and and is that just simple blood test to find that out? Or is that
Jason (34m 48s):
You can, what I did was I did the, it's called three by four genetics. Okay. It's a cheek swab one, you can get it just about anywhere from functional medicine doctors, but that one, I mean it had your liver methylation But it had a lot of them. So your main organ systems pathways, well that one pointed out that my nervous system runs quite hot and it has depleted a few of those. So that has been truly helpful and really noticed a difference.
Brian (35m 23s):
Okay. Yeah, nowadays there's so much testing it's like you gotta sort of pick your battles with that, right?
Jason (35m 31s):
Yes, yes. Yeah.
Brian (35m 34s):
And in your practice you guys do do a lot of testing or send it out?
Jason (35m 39s):
We give people the option, the leak, so on the alternative medicine clinic, So they, the insurance companies don't cover a lot of what we do here. Right. H-S-A-F-S-A, they'll let you do that, but we give 'em the option. I go through it two ways because like when I had my health issues I didn't have health insurance and finances was a real issue at that time. Sure. So I also figured out like based on your symptoms, what organ systems those are and how we can then begin to use food to nourish those up. So like relating them back to the part of the body that most likely is underperforming and why.
Jason (36m 24s):
So I have a process of going through based off symptoms that can give us a jumpstart and then hopefully if they do have extra cash or they want testing, they can pick and choose the areas that we really have no clue in. But I have people that do goose egg, no testing and then some that just go to town. But they're, it's a definite limit. Some people just want to do testing just to do testing. Right. And I'm like, gotta get to the treatment at some point.
Brian (36m 55s):
Yeah. Yeah. And this was great in your book. No Cure. No problem. When did it come out?
Jason (37m 3s):
It's coming up on about a month now. Oh
Brian (37m 6s):
Great. Okay. And that's on all that's on Amazon. We're most people buy books nowadays? There's not a, I was gonna say there's not many like Barnes and Nobles are you in any stores? I remember I, when I wrote that kid's book, I was in stores and stuff, but Now I feel like stores are sort of non-existent when it comes to books. There's not many,
Jason (37m 26s):
Right? Not really. And I haven't stepped out locally. So online, Barnes and Nobles online, Amazon and everywhere. But no, from what I understand they kind of like, you gotta qualify and I don't, I don't know if I've hit those numbers to qualify.
Brian (37m 41s):
Oh, to get into the stores. Yeah, you could get it. You could go to some, you know, local stores, you know, just mom and PA shops and talk to them and maybe get in there. That might not be a bad thing just for, you know, local marketing. Yes. Yeah,
Jason (37m 55s):
Yeah, yeah.
Brian (37m 57s):
And they might have you come, you know, do maybe a reading or talk about, you know, a topic that might not be a bad way to go. Yeah.
Jason (38m 4s):
There's a couple of those here in town not thought about.
Brian (38m 8s):
Yeah, no the, yeah, I remember doing that a bit. Well this was great. I'll ask you one last question I ask most of my guests that come on. If you were gonna give one tip to someone who's maybe trying to get their health in order or their body back in order, what one tip would you get them just to get started?
Jason (38m 29s):
Figure out your why. You need a home base for making decisions. So it's very easy to get pulled in different directions or someone tell ya an idea or you see on social media. So it's okay to explore, it's okay to be curious but you have to build to come back to your why or your health, your biology so that you can know if you're making the right decision. 'cause the people that have actually went through remission, they all have that nailed down, they all have that filter and anything new they funnel through that. But that could be the most important thing before you go find your specifics is know that why,
Brian (39m 13s):
Love that. Figure out the why and then everything else should come into place. Right. Should fall into place.
Jason (39m 20s):
Makes it easier for it too.
Brian (39m 22s):
Yeah. Well this was great Jason. Yeah, I, I will put Links in the show notes for people to find you and I appreciate you coming on and sharing, sharing your story and then a little bit of knowledge around herbals and how people can heal from that. So thanks, thanks so much for coming on.
Jason (39m 40s):
Yes, it was great Brian. Very nice to to be here and talk about it and I enjoyed myself as well.
Brian (39m 45s):
All right. Have a great rest of the day.
Jason (39m 47s):
All right, you too.
Brian (39m 48s):
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