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Interview with Doug Holt: Importance of a Coach, Successful Mindset and Getting Unstuck

May 13, 2021 in Podcast


This week I interviewed Doug Holt. He is a business coach who helps entrepreneurs get unstuck, gain clarity, and achieve freedom!

0 (1s): Coming up on the get lean, eat clean podcast.

1 (4s): And if someone's looking to start a clean line, eating clean lifestyle, first thing I would say is get, get, get, you know, figure out your why. And then second year who third is, get everybody on board with you and then throw out all the crap, throw all the temptation. Right? I'll tell you what, Brian, if there's homemade cookies here in my house, man, I'm eating them. I'm just,

0 (25s): No, you bring up such a great point and I stress it. It's such a simple thing, but if you don't buy it, you don't eat it. It's it's true.

1 (32s): Don't go to the grocery store, hungry ever.

0 (35s): Hello and welcome to the get clean, eat clean podcast. I'm Brian grin. And I'm here to give you actionable tips to get your body back to what it once was in five, 10, even 15 years ago, each week. I'll give you an in-depth interview with a health expert from around the world to cut through the fluff and get you long-term sustainable results. This week I interviewed Doug Holt. He's a business coach who helps entrepreneurs get unstuck, gain clarity, and achieve freedom. Now we discuss a ton about mindset, whether you're starting a business or wanting to lose weight, if you don't have a successful mindset, you're not going to succeed. So we touch on that. We also talk about how to have a sound morning and night routine, how to prioritize your kids in your relationship.

0 (1m 20s): What is cyber not? And how does it work to enhance your brain? Also the importance of having a coach. Lastly, he gives us one tip to get your body back to what it once was. So I've known Doug for awhile. He has a ton of great advice and it'll help you. Whether you're trying to lose weight, start a business or whatever it is. So enjoy the episode. I know you will, and thanks so much for listening. All right, welcome to the Gatling, eat clean podcast. My name is Brian grin and I have a special guest Doug Holt on he's, a business coach, coach mentor, and a fitness expert, and a long time friend. I've known him for a while. And welcome to the show. Doug,

1 (2m 0s): Thank you so much, Brian. It's an honor to be here.

0 (2m 3s): Well, I'm glad we're doing this because Doug helped me awhile back. He does some leadership groups and, and yeah, we did some one-on-one coaching for a good while spot six months, I believe, and really helped me put me in the right direction. Cause I was just starting out as an entrepreneur and got me going. So I'm excited to have him out. And I know a lot of his knowledge will help you, whether you're whatever, trying to lose weight or start a business or whatever it is. Cause we're gonna talk a lot about mindset and where you gotta be. So Doug, why don't you maybe give the audience a little bit of a background of, I know you have a lot of things going on. I can't even keep up with it.

0 (2m 44s): Maybe where you're at right now, how you, how you came to where you're at and what type of coaching and things that you do.

1 (2m 51s): Yeah. It's kind of funny. And my, you know, my wife says the same thing, you know, w what are you doing? I always say some people Brian can paint and have hobby. I'm just coaching and business are things that I just get naturally. And I can't draw better than a stick figure. So I'm the CEO of a multinational corporation called Biocybernaut. And that company is all geared towards helping people, you know, raise consciousness, right? Using brainwave therapy and really technical aspects, amazing company. And then as you know, I also coach with business leaders around the world, and that's where I spend most of my time have sold businesses and run mastermind groups. And I've been coaching for over 20 years.

1 (3m 32s): So it's been something that I've been doing. I call it advising because the way I do, it's just different than coaching, you know, dealing with business leaders at the same time, but probably most important to me is that I'm a father of two beautiful kids and a husband. So that's where, you know, we've got to remember where our priorities and why we do what we do.

0 (3m 51s): Very true. We talk about the, I tried to talk about the why quite a bit, because we, we hit on, on this podcast, we hit a lot about on, you know, eating fasting and, you know, different sort of, I don't know if you want to say there are some, some bio-hacks to, you know, look good, great, and feel great, but why don't we touch a little bit on mindset? What do you, what, what do you think sets people apart? The people that, you know, cause you deal with a lot of business individuals who are looking to succeed in a lot of different avenues, what do you think sets people apart, the people that succeed and the people that don't

1 (4m 31s): Well, yeah, I think first there's, it's easy to get knowledge. Knowledge is available everywhere. I myself have 18 different degrees and certifications in the fitness field. Hmm. That's too many, but anybody's standards. And I don't say that to impress you, but to impress upon you, that knowledge is easy. That's the easy part. What sets people apart is the ability to take action. And you touched on that briefly as the getting to the why I think getting to the why is something most of us understand what to do. And as you know, when I'm working with somebody, whether it's a, you know, a business leader in the UK has got a nine figure company that they're working on to somebody who's just starting off in their business and launching a really looking to kickstart, it's not just the why we do it.

1 (5m 16s): So same thing with weight loss or gaining muscle or regaining energy. It's also the who, right? Who is this going to affect above and beyond ourselves? Cause you like me, Brian, you know, we, we lie to ourselves. We let ourselves down. That's human nature. Tomorrow is what I'm going to fast tomorrow is we're not going to run. However, as you know, I rushed to get here to be on this podcast because I didn't want to let you down. Right. So my, who is my ability to achieve is better when I know my who, right. Don't let Brian down, be there for Brian. I'm not going to let him down. And I know you're the same way. And most of you listening, you don't let others down.

1 (5m 57s): We let ourselves down. And it's a lot easier to cheat on the diet to skip the workouts when we're just doing it for ourselves because our ego steps in and makes justifications, right. I mean, how many times do you make this? I mean, I know you well enough to know that you could pull out scientific literature on why you don't need to go work out today because of rest. And, you know, Hey, you know, actually when you think about it, cortisol levels are going to be raised, et cetera, et cetera. And, and what I've found is the smarter someone is the easier it is for them to make excuses and justifications. So it's almost like intelligence works against you.

0 (6m 34s): That makes a lot of sense. I think that everyone deals with it, right? No matter the level or, or how successful that individual is, this self-talk this internal self-talk about, you know, whether you could do something or you can't do something and you bring up a great point in the sense that if you have, if you don't, you don't want to let other people down. Right. And I think the important thing about that is getting a coach or getting maybe accountability partner, because, you know, if you have a workout partner it's a lot, or you have like now nowadays you have a zoom appointment or as a, you know, a zoom session with a w T T to go through like an hour session with a trainer, you're not going to like, just show, you know, not show up.

0 (7m 15s): Right. And I think that just bleeds to how important it is to have a coach.

1 (7m 19s): Well, it is right, because again, it's easy. It's just like getting out of bed. Right. I have two wonderful kids, as I said, one's 11 months old and it'd be easy for me to hit the snooze alarm and not get up early in the morning. It'd be easy for me to do all those things. But because I know I got this beautiful girl, that's gonna wake up, you know, around 6:00 AM or seven. And I have to get my workouts and morning routine in, I get up early cause I'm doing it so I could spend time with her. However, if I didn't have that accountability, I wouldn't do it. Now. The same thing goes with a coach, the people I work with with coaching, right. That they're making a significant investment in capital and in time to work with me.

1 (8m 1s): And it's not because they're stupid, they're extremely intelligent. It's because they get the fact that they have to check in, someone's going to hold them accountable. And someone is going to, you know, basically not listen to their BS and not put up with their excuses. And I mean, you know how I am, I don't put up with my stories or other things I cut right to it quickly. And having a coach, whether it be intermittent, fasting or otherwise, or at the gym, right. When COVID lifts find a workout partner, who's more motivated than you. It have to be someone smarter than you, just more motivated. So you just show up, you know, getting the basics is, is the key.

0 (8m 39s): I love that. I know you mentioned in there and I wanted to touch on it is morning ritual. And I'm big into that. I asked a lot of my guests that, so let everyone know what, what is your morning routine like and how does it set you up for the rest of the day?

1 (8m 52s): So, yeah, my I've been doing morning routines before they were so mine at this point because I do have an 11 month old and a three-year-old my morning routine, Eben, ebbs and flows. I also do a lot of business in Europe. So obviously there's a big time difference. I'm on the West coast of the United States. But to answer your question, so, you know, I don't want to live, leave everybody. I always spend time journaling. Right? So a practice of gratitude I think is critical. And it's something I have everybody I work with go through just being grateful for what we have and because that sets the tone. All right. So the first thing, so an example, when an alarm goes off and it goes, you know, you hear that sound or, and then you spill your coffee or tea or whatever it may be, your day just starts off bad.

1 (9m 40s): You start off rushed. So what I like to do is set up for success and starting off with a journaling practice that I do a gratefulness practice, something we call the alpha rise and shine with a group called the powerful man is what we do. Some visualization and meditation. I always read or learn something in the morning and I've always moved my body. Now there's a variance between these, there's a list of about 50 things that I pick and choose from depending on what I want to do. But the key here, Brian, is I preplan those. I don't just wake up and go, Hmm, what do I feel like doing today? Cause I'm always serving the higher me, you know, the Doug of December of 20, 21 rather than the Doug of today.

1 (10m 23s): Right. Because Doug today might want to go eat donuts and go back to sleep and watch Netflix. You know, that's not going to serve me next year. So, or my family or the people that I, that I want to help.

0 (10m 36s): Yeah. And you know, obviously having two kids, I knew you when you had one and now you have two. And I think a lot of individuals maybe use their kids as an excuse or a reason to do things. And I love how you say you get up earlier. You know, my example of that, I don't have kids. I actually, I I'm I'm Doug. Well, you know, I don't know if you know, I'm married, I'm expecting a boy in that

1 (11m 2s): I've been stalking you on social media.

0 (11m 5s): Yeah. So I'm already prepping myself how I'm going to, you know, go through and change like my morning routine. But I do have two dogs who like to get up and go. So I have to, I just try to weave them into my morning routine and not necessarily use them as an excuse. And I'm sure you maybe run into that with a lot of your clients is they have these things or these, when I just say obstacles and they want to use those as an, excuse it more so than a reason why they should do things.

1 (11m 31s): Yeah. A hundred percent. And I look, I do it too. Right? I'm I'm as human as anybody. Just again, just knowing something doesn't mean. I do it all. However, it's all a matter of priorities. Right? So when I'm working with a client, right? First thing I do is what do you want to do? Let's figure out what your goals are. Then show me your calendar and I'll show you your priorities. Everybody. I don't care. Everybody says the relationships are number one, just everybody, right? They want to make money. They want to do all these things, but relationships now, it all starts with the relationship with yourself. That's the first and foremost, if you, you know, going through, so show me your calendar or show your priorities and for parents, right?

1 (12m 12s): You know, if you just, when you Brian, when your beautiful boy comes into this world, you know, sleep is going to be nonexistent. My friend. So, I mean, those are, you got to love yourself enough to give yourself grace, right? And during this time, however, you also get to do something. There's tons of exercises you can do with your kid, lifting your kid up and doing shoulder presses and squat, thrusters leader, kid, your kid loves it. They're laughing. And you're getting a great workout. You can do it with Tabatha's right. So 20 seconds on 10 seconds off for four minutes, right. For me, I go to bed early and I wake up or I put my kids to bed, spend some time with my wife. So we're always connected. So we don't have to go through camp.

1 (12m 54s): You know, counseling would just stay connected. Right. And then go to bed a little earlier. Right. Right. I'm not going out to the bars, partying. I got kids at home and everything else. So I go to bed earlier and I get up earlier. And that gives me my quiet time, my time to work out and do intermittent fasting and whatever else I want to do. And to make sure that I'm on point. Yeah.

0 (13m 14s): Speaking of intermittent fasting, what type of things I know you've been involved in the health and fitness industry for a long time, maybe more so back then than now, per se. But what are the types of things that you do on a day in day out basis, whether it's fasting or eating to help stay in shape and be on top of things?

1 (13m 32s): I do my best to eat clean. Right. I get, I'm not perfect. I'm far from it. You know, you know, w and I used to always joke about Apple cider vinegar, right. Especially in a, in a measuring cup, the Pyrex glass. I do things like that. I'm all I'm experimenting with my body, seeing what works, you know, having a flow. I, I eat fairly keen clean. I don't eat keto. You know, I don't really have a categorized nutrition basis. I do do intermittent fasting most of the time. I think there's a trend here. Right. Everything I do is most of the time, not always, you know, today I did a really intense workout. So I have a little bit more carbohydrates, right. For our glycaemic push.

1 (14m 13s): Right. I want, I want, you know, glucose into the bloodstream to repair my tissues. And so I'm not falling asleep. So I'm talking to you because I have nothing. I don't do taquito genic diets. It's just not, for me. It's not a, it hasn't worked for my body. And I think that's really important aspect for people to really realize is not everything works for everybody. Right.

0 (14m 34s): I think, I think there's, you know, just doing a lot of these interviews is there's like these camps, you know, you have Kito camp, carnival camp, and I don't think you need to be in any camp. I think you sort of have to learn to be aware and to sort of listen to what your body needs and wants. And that's not to say that, you know, if you get a hunger craving, okay, let's just go start eating. Right. Like, you know, if you talk about fasting. Yeah. One of the big things that fasting has done for me is I'm more aware of what hunger is and what it isn't. And I understand that if I do have a hunger pain that I can ignore it, it sort of comes and goes, hunger waves come and go sort of ebbs and flows depending on the clock a lot of times.

0 (15m 17s): And that's the one thing I love about fasting is you don't, you don't, you're not sort of tied down to the clock. Right. You eat when you sort of feel like it's right. Like I have, I dunno, it's two 15. I just did a hard workout. I haven't had anything. I had a little pre-workout little pre-workout drink and that was about it. But like, I don't, I'm not hungry. Right. So I think in years past, if it was noon, I'd be like, okay. Time to eat. But I feel more mental clarity when I'm in a facet state. So I try to do a lot of my business and activities in the morning and the, in the early afternoon when I don't have my, my first meal. And that's really helped.

1 (15m 54s): Yeah. It's funny that you mentioned that I, you know, right before we got on here, I did a, I did a live video into a private group, not on Facebook, but a private group of all business leaders around the world. They all, all male business leaders. And one of the things I talked about was my last fasting experience and one of the things. So I have this downstairs where I live in my house, it's about 1300 square feet. It's my call, my man cave slash office. Every time I walk upstairs, which I do a lot to hang out with the family, I walked by the pantry. And when I fasted, I realized something I didn't realize before is that every time I walked by that pantry, I have an automatic trigger to go grab a snack. Yeah.

1 (16m 34s): And that's why I think fasting is really, you know, informative is you learn what your triggers are. Right. You learn that, Oh, wow. Subconsciously I'm just snacking because it's there. Not because I'm hungry. Not because my body needs nutrients. It's just, they're a common one that I see through business leaders. Brian and parents is alcohol. Right. I'm gonna have a drink cause it's five or I'm off work or it's Thursday or whatever. It may be without really making a conscious decision about it.

0 (17m 4s): Right. Yeah. I think especially because of the whole quarantine, a lot of people were home all day and it just sort of tested you in the sense that you're, you're not far from the kitchen and, you know, right. I mean, I think before, when you would get up and go to work, you know, you're not necessarily by food and it's accessibility is, is more difficult, but now it's sort of tests sort of your mental, I dunno how strong you are. If you can sort of resist the temptation to go to that kitchen and, and maybe walk around it instead of walk through it, if you can.

1 (17m 39s): Well, you talked earlier when we started this about mindset and I think what separates, successful people from not successful is a couple of things. Like you said, get a coach, right? The successful people all have coaches. I have a coach, always have someone else I've been in my before my twenties, I guess, kind of athletics, but get a coach, someone to can see your optics and be honest with you, not a friend, someone who's going to be direct too, is, you know, successful people try to figure out why they do things. What are the patterns, where are their triggers, right? Why are they doing what they're doing? Intermittent fasting. Why, why do you want to intermittent fast? Is it for, you know, the great principles of, you know, reducing cancer risk, right?

1 (18m 21s): Or, you know, replenishing cells or is it weight loss, right. And then, you know, figure out why it is, you eat three meals a day or six meals a day or one meal a day, or, you know, what have you, or why do you follow a certain dogma of Quito, carnival for paleo, you know, vegetarian VI, you know, et cetera. And then you, with those optics, you can start making conscious decisions.

0 (18m 46s): Yeah, no, I love that. I mean, one of the things I wanted to also touch on was it was a topic and I don't fail to mention that you, you do have two podcasts. You co-host one called the powerful man show, which I definitely want to check that one out. And one of the topics you guys talked touched on, which I think would run through with this audience and speak to them is why your kids cannot come first. And, and so perhaps maybe touch on that and, and why that's so important.

1 (19m 19s): Yeah, sure. So first the powerful man show is a show dedicated to helping a married businessmen, especially married business men with kids. So welcome to the club. Not because we don't like women because we love women. And by helping ourselves and helping men, we are able to help women and guess what? I'm a guy. So I can relate really easy because I coach a lot of really high end women. So Y your kids don't need to come first. Well, the reason I was talking about it was in relationship. So typically what happens when you have kids is, you know, first of all, the, woman's getting a lot of oxytocin in her body, which helps with bonding. The male doesn't get as much, but anyway, point being as kids go up, the usually typically both parents seek love from the children, right?

1 (20m 8s): So that's what we were talking about the most. And then the couple starts to divide, right? Until the kids leave. And then all of a sudden, the, to the, to the, you know, husband, wife, look at each other and go, who are you? Very common, but also what gets to happen is you get to take care of yourself. First. If you don't take care of yourself, you're not going to be, excuse me, not gonna be able to take care of your children in a full way. So I know you well, and I know, you know, how important, obviously it's your podcast, but fitness, nutrition, wellbeing, and helping others is to you. Right? You'll set an example for this little boy. You're bringing into the world of how important that is for him, right? Kids always watching they're like parents, right?

1 (20m 49s): They just repeat everything you say and do. So by taking care of yourself first, then I believe you take care of your relationship second, and then third children. And it doesn't mean you neglect your kids. You're a bad parent, right? You're just setting the example. You show up with a full cup, you know, everything that you have, and that starts with self care, which part of that's nutrition, biggest part actually now the part of that's movement, moving your body, whatever you choose to do from CrossFit to power walking, everything in between. Yeah. Right. And then you talked about morning routines, right? I do a morning routine afternoon routine and evening routine. Right. The, I just know it sets me up for success and I can show up as a better father for my children and show them a role model of, Hey, you get to love yourself.

1 (21m 39s): Right. And that starts with dad gets to love himself as an example. So you can see, and then you can witness it.

0 (21m 46s): Yeah. I love that. And you talk about routines, it's so important. Maybe let's touch on night routines because setting yourself up for a successful sleep is probably, I mean, I talk about principles of health. I would say that's number one. If you're not getting quality sleep, actually, I just got a whoop it's on my wrist here, but anyways, and it, the biggest thing I think it does is, Oh, there you go. So it's an aura ring you have on, is that? Yeah. Yeah. And so I just was curious because I wanted to see how my sleep was. I can usually feel the next day or the two days after if I slept well, but more, you know, I just wanted to see some data behind it, but why don't you touch on your, your night routine and how that sort of sets you up to have a great night's sleep?

1 (22m 33s): Yeah, it's funny. Cause I actually, I, we didn't talk about this, but I pulled up my evening routine cause I was to print out a fresh copy so I could just have it cause I forget stuff. Right. It's just, all right. So actually I can read it off to you and I think, but the first thing I make sure I do is, is be right before, you know, before bed is I drink a large glass of water with lemon in it, or with green juice, right. Is that my body up for me? I write a post, right? Because the part of what I do to, for my target audience, I take evening supplements to help supplement my diet and also to aid in sleep quality, which I found really works well for me or something like that.

1 (23m 15s): I do take melatonin, but not every day. So I'll take something, you know, different supplements depending on what I'm trying to achieve. So I've right now I'm taking the quality evening and I really like it. It's got AlphaNine, you know, and you actually take it at dinner time, not before you go to sleep. Okay. But I like it, it kind of sets the mood for me. And I'll findings, as you probably know, is it's going to be used as a neurotropic in some ways, but also relaxing. If you have too much caffeine, you know, I'll finding something good to throw into your diet. And then what I do is I go ahead and I do some rebounding right.

1 (23m 55s): On a rebounder just for, to help move the lymphatic system.

0 (23m 59s): Okay. So maybe explain what a rebounder is. Is that like a trampoline? You need to jump it.

1 (24m 5s): Yeah. You know, those round trampolines you saw probably in like the seventies or the eighties that people yeah.

0 (24m 10s): Everything's coming back full circle, you know? Yeah.

1 (24m 12s): I've been rebounding for a long time, actually got that from Tony Robbins, I think brought that back. But what it's been shown to do is do lymphatic drainage. So I'll actually rebound in the morning, but I'm also when I'm re rebounding, I'm also visualizing the next day. Right. So I'm planning my next day and I'm visualizing the success the next day. So I'll be thinking about talking here to you, right? What do I, what's the outcome I want. Okay. So yeah, what I'm doing is for the morning routine, when I'm visualizing this podcast, as an example, what I want to get with, with Brian, how I want to do it for in the evening for the next day, you know, I have nothing to sell or anything.

1 (24m 53s): I just want to deliver value. And then I'm planning my, my next day, I'm getting that all done. And then I go to journaling and then reading, you know, reading something positive to get my mind mind. Right. And I spend time with my wife. So try to get off of electronics at least an hour, if not two hours, two hours is more ideal, but realistically it's an hour before bed and you know, really, really focused on sleep. You said it, Brian, you know, I think the biggest factor, the biggest determinant of success the next day is the quality of sleep. And I see this through business leaders throughout the world, you know, it's, you know, people pay this coaching has changed since, but people pay me 200,000, but my price is $200,000 for a year, which is a significant investment in capital as you know.

1 (25m 40s): And so the first thing I do is I watch their sleep patterns as I have them correct their sleep and it changes everything for, for people. And it sounds so simple, but it is, it is simple. It's just so few of us get that quality sleep.

0 (25m 56s): Yeah. I mean, that's so important. I make sleep a priority. I think people think, Oh, it's almost like an aftermath for a lot of people, but like you said, if you, if you have a solid sleep routine, it'll just sort of set you up for the night and into the next day.

1 (26m 14s) No, it does. It absolutely does. And I do use melatonin periodically, but you know, you count back that the hours you need and you need to overestimate. Right. What I find, especially with kids, if I look at my aura rings an example, which I use just same thing as you did, just get to some data, but I might be in bed for, let's just say nine hours. Cause I'm in, I go to bed early. Cause I know myself and my daughter woke up five times last night, at least. And so my actual sleep time was about six and a half hours. Right. It's a big difference. Right. And a lot of people just use the clock to look at the time rather than the actual, you know, quality of sleep you're getting. And then how much deep sleep are you getting?

1 (26m 54s): How much art REM sleep are you getting? These things really make a big difference.

0 (26m 59s): Yeah. Oh for sure. Yeah. That could be the sole reason. I mean, people can come and they want to, they want to lose weight and they're like, well, what should I eat? Should I start fasting? Well, if you're not getting your sleep right, it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter. All the other stuff doesn't really pertain, you know, get the sleep in order first. And then, you know, one thing that I do to help my sleep is like you said off like electronic devices and also like being present, whether it's reading or meditation a little bit, I've been doing some meditation actually in the morning where I just literally lay there and try to focus on my breath because, and it's not easy and I've gone on and off with meditation and I'm getting back into it.

0 (27m 43s): It's not an easy art to take up and you have to sort of like ease your way into it. But I've been trying to lay there for 10 minutes and focus on my breath. It's you, you realize how much your mind will just wander and it's okay. Right. It's okay for your mind to wander. But, but I think the better, the more you do it, the more you realize that if you, if you just really get honed in on your breath and, and not have all these, you know, a thousand thoughts going on, it sort of centers you for the rest of the day.

1 (28m 10s): Yeah, it really does. And I get all my clients on meditation. I do a lot of bio-hacking with my clients, but you know, I start them off usually with guided meditation or even both Vipassana, which is a little bit more active, right. You're focusing on the breath and one area of your body like feel the breath from your nose to hit your, you know, your lip it's, as you're focusing on that, you get less of the monkey mind coming out. At least I do. And

0 (28m 36s): You know, let's touch on. I've always been intrigued by. I know you're the CEO of a Biocybernaut and I actually was taking a look at it last night. And you have like a five day, a seven day program. And I'm all about like things that enhance your mind. I think he just gets overlooked. Tell me a little bit about that company and what kind of value that brings the people that use it.

1 (28m 60s): Yeah, well, quite a bit. So Biocybernaut was founded by Dr. James Hart. He is a pioneer in neurofeedback. So this isn't like neurofeedback machines you see on the market, he's got the most sophisticated technology in the world. And the reason I became a CEO is I went through the training and said, wait a minute. I want, I want to know more about this. Cause it's, it's life-changing work. So people come for usually one of two reasons. One is we have people who are looking for the edge, right? So what Biocybernaut does give you an idea is Dr. Hart's got protocols. You go in there. So let's just say the seven days, the most common and they hook electrodes all over your head, right?

1 (29m 40s): It looks crazy. And they talk, you walk you through it and then they teach you how to control your alpha brainwaves. So everybody has to start with alpha there's alpha feta Delta. Those are the ones that we train me up, gamma and Schumann brainwaves. I've learned a lot since I've been there. And so you learn to train your alpha brainwaves, which is the brainwaves use to control anxiety. It's more of a meditative state critical thinking and you're able to increase them. Now, Dr. Hart's training has shown an increased in IQ, a 50% increase in CR increase in creativity, reduction, anxiety, and a whole host of other things, right?

1 (30m 23s): And this is all scientific backed. You know, some of this is double-blind peer reviewed studies at Stanford, et cetera. So this is not Hocus Pocus. So people come for two reasons. One is to get the edge. So it's business and political leaders typically to come to get the edge. When I went through my first training, we had a partner of Microsoft that was in my training to give you an idea. On the other reason, people come is to get rid of trauma or reduce anxiety or something. Along those lines, we have people come and things are, you know, they don't do drinking or doing drugs. Again, anxiety has gone. Paranoia has gone. These are just some, there's some of the things that happen because the alpha brainwaves and it's permanent that Dr.

1 (31m 5s): Hart had done a study that was funded by the government and they, they check people back double-blind again for one year period. That's when the government study was granted for and everybody had permanent, literally permanent increases in intelligence, IQ, creativity, EEQ et cetera, which is really cool. So it's like going to the gym and you're lifting weights. Your muscles are getting stronger. It's not easy. Let me be real clear. It's not easy.

0 (31m 30s): And is this something you, you went, I mean, I know when you went, you went in person, are they still doing it in person with everything going on? Or how's that work?

1 (31m 38s): We are, we are doing it in person. There's a lot of safety and health protocols. We're doing it in person in Germany. Right. So we have a location in Germany and also in Sedona area.

0 (31m 48s): Okay. And so it's like almost like a it's like brain camp.

1 (31m 53s): It is like brain camp. And again, it's like going to the gym the seven days you're in this dark chamber and the, your brain waves are connected to sounds oboes, flutes, depending on the frequency and where it is. And you pick a few areas. And once you learn to increase your alpha a little bit, you start to keep increasing it and keep increasing it. And typically people have breakthroughs. And then all of a sudden it's like, ah, I get it. And they're able to increase their alpha brainwave abilities, which is their critical reasoning. Their thinking, Tony Robbins says, it's one of the best things he's ever done. He, you know, we just did a thing where Tony Robbins has been coming, Dr. Michael Beckwith, you know, these are the types of people that I'm just listening to.

1 (32m 34s): You know, people might know Michael Jackson has been in, et cetera. So I mean, this kind of the biggest hidden secret and Dr. Hart just never really promoted it. You know? So people were kind of in the know, knew about it and would go and others just don't. I believe Tony Robbins, Tony Robins recommended all of his coaches that this is one thing you have to do. It's because of the life-changing things, but it's not easy again, it's, it's not for the faint of heart. You want to really put your work in, but the benefits are, are absolutely amazing.

0 (33m 6s): Wow. And do you get some athletes that come in there? I would assume so. Yeah,

1 (33m 10s): Absolutely. We've had Dr. Hartz had guys put N NFL Olympics, et cetera. Again, looking for that edge to get there, because you talked about getting your mind, right. This is a way to increase your brainwave frequency, not just your intelligence, but you know, guys like me, Brian, I can use all the help and IQ I can get. Right. You know, as, and creativity for that matter. But it's really kind of getting that edge and getting that clarity because when you're in a state of alpha, it's kind of that Zen like state that we all get the flow state people talk about and biohacking

0 (33m 45s): Flow state. Right, right. I just attributed, I think about golf. Okay.

1 (33m 50s): A lot of golfers come in. Right? Yeah. Cause anxiety, you can't hit a good golf swing if you're anxious or, or anything else, you just, you can't do anything. Well, when you're anxious,

0 (33m 59s): I think that's the ultimate search when you're playing a sport, whether it's professional or not is getting into that flow state where it's almost like you, you don't even realize your surroundings and things comes, you know, like the hole or the basket looks twice the size. And I think that's like the number one pursuit when you're playing, whether it's golf or whatever is to get into that flow state. And it's very fleeting.

1 (34m 25s): It is. It is. And you know, we don't have as many athletes that come in, I would say then people that are looking for growth right. Coming in through there. And it's really because again, Biocybernaut, I just took over the CEO role not too long ago. So it's been less than a year that I've been CEO. And prior to that, there wasn't a CEO in that seat. And Dr. Hart, he's a research scientist, you know, and if you meet him, he's, he's literally a genius. And he's built these things for hand. I mean, literally soldered wires. And cause they just, this technology just didn't exist and he's been doing it for 40 years.

1 (35m 5s): So yeah. Highly recommend it. All my personal coaching clients go, I make them go make them go, go through the training because of it just, you know, the results.

0 (35m 15s): Yeah. Wow. That's something I definitely want to look into. I was checking it out last night. Why don't we touch on a couple more things before we finish up here, one of them is, and I noticed on your website, you talk about getting unstuck. I think this is a common thing. And I think for individuals, you know, whether it's weight loss or putting on muscle or whatever it is, what are some of the tips and things that you've gotten and learned through the years to help people get unstuck?

1 (35m 43s): Number one thing is get a coach, right? I'm not saying that because that's what I do or anything like that, but you can't see the forest from the trees. And we lie to ourselves more than we lie to anybody. We don't like to admit it, but we do. We say, ah, you know, I got kids, so I'm a little too tired or this, that, and the other, they're all excuses. And they're justifiable a coach. Won't let you do it. You know, I had you come in and you generously spoke about intermittent fasting to a group of business leaders and did that. And that inspiration was huge. Right. And I'm not sure if any of them sought out coaching from you or not, but we recommended it. Right. Get a coach if you're going to do intermittent fasting, do it. Right. Right. The one thing that we don't have more time is time. And we talk about getting unstuck right.

1 (36m 26s): And getting clarity. It really is pushing forward. For some reason, people are so hesitant to invest time capital or their ego, right. Is the biggest thing. What if I fail things of that nature that they just don't take action. Like keep redo doing the same things over and over again. And so, you know, again, number one thing by a long shot is get a coach. Cause they're gonna help. A good coach is gonna help you see optics, right. Coaches come in all shapes and sizes, all experience levels and qualities, but invest in that and make sure you're, you're progressing. The second thing is, do stuff different. Right? And what do I mean by that? Well, first of all, recognize that what you're doing is a pattern.

1 (37m 8s): Have you done this more than one time? Yes, no, no story. Just yes, no. That's the only selections only check boxes you have on this question, right? If you say yes, the next question is, does this pattern serve me? Yes. No, not, ah, it serves me sometimes it does. No, you only get the SNLs in these questions. Right. And if the answer is no, the pattern, the pattern doesn't serve you and it's happening more than once. Then you need to do a radical change. If you don't know what that radical changes and you don't have a coach or the coach isn't going to help you with it, then just change, do something. If you're doing vegan, do keto, right. Or do carnivore, right. Go to another extreme and try it because what you're doing is not working.

1 (37m 51s): So you got to throw out the ego of that. You understand and you know, what's best.

0 (37m 56s): Yeah. I love that. And you know, you're talking about getting a coach and, and if what you're doing, whatever that is, does it serve you? And I had an interview with a guy and he, he mentioned the sort of the same thing. If you're going to the cabinet, you know, to the pantry and the kitchen and you take a deep breath and you ask yourself, is this serving me a lot of times, it doesn't. If you're going to have that junk food, that's not to say that you have to be perfect. Right. But if you're trying to change something and change a habit, I always say, especially with my clients is especially for that first month or two is you got to sort of go cold Turkey in a sense, or go clean and stick with it for a decent period of time.

0 (38m 40s): Because like, for example, myself, obviously I've been eating clean for a while and fasting and doing these things. If I cheat, it's easy for me to just go right back into the, into the habit, the good habits that I had. But if I've always been doing it for a few weeks and then I go back and start cheating, it's going to be very tough for me to get, go back into know, into eating clean and doing the right things. I would say.

1 (39m 4s): Absolutely. And if someone's looking to start a clean line, eating clean lifestyle, first thing I would say is get, get, get, you know, figure out your why your, and then second year who third is, get everybody on board with you and then throw out all the crap, throw all the temptation. Right? I'll tell you what, Brian, if there's homemade cookies here in my house, man, I'm eating them. I'm just,

0 (39m 26s): No, you bring up such a great point. And I, I stress it. It's such a simple thing, but if you don't buy it, you don't need it. It's true.

1 (39m 34s): Don't go to the grocery store hungry ever, right. Unless you're Brian grin and you've got the discipline, you know, if you're Doug Holt, you don't right. Go have a healthy food. Be full, have a grocery list, go with your mind, go with Doug 20, 21 in mind, don't go with Doug 2020. Because that guys come home with cookies.

0 (39m 55s): Yeah. Yeah. I agree. People come up. Well, people would come over the back. Catheters. Not much in, you know, in your, in your place, in your kitchen. I go, yeah, there's a real, there's a reason for that. Right? Like I know not to say that I couldn't, you know, abstain from foods, but if it's not there that makes your life that much easier.

1 (40m 14s): Yeah. Well, that's one less decisions you have to make you look at, you know, Einstein or, you know, Steve jobs, all of these people, right? They have, they, they limit their, their wardrobes, right? So there's less decisions. You have a finite, I don't care how smart you are. You have a finite willpower and a finite ability to make decisions. You have a cap it's been proven. Science has proven it. So take the guesswork out of it. Right? This is the reason at the end of the day, you eat crappy foods. That reason at the end of the day, you drink alcohol and not at six in the morning. Right? I call it six in the morning. Doug, is it the cleanest eating? No drinking, nothing great guy you've ever met 6:00 PM. Doug wants some nachos, a beer and wants to sit on the couch and watch football, but Oh yeah.

1 (41m 1s): Yeah. It's absolutely temptation. I know clients of mine have gotten rid of couches. Right? Cause you know, Hey, you know, they're making big decisions. You know, some our political leaders and they're making big, big decisions every day, they got to really move the needle. And so to limit that temptation, to limit the of decisions they have to make to get rid of their couch. So they don't sit in front of the TV. Right. Instead of having foam rolling and doing movement patterns, then that puts them in a better state. And they'll get the couch, you know, again, three months, six months later.

0 (41m 34s): Yeah. I love that. And one of the questions I asked a lot of my guests and you know, I'm sure we've touched on some of it already today is what would be like one tip that you'd give an individual middle-aged individual. That's looking to maybe get their body back to what it once was maybe five, 10, even 15 years ago, start with the basics. Okay.

1 (41m 57s): What do I, and the reason I say this is, you know, I've been in the fitness space. If you count, you know, now, so I'm not really in it. But even before over 20 years, everybody wants to know how much zinc I should be taking or you know, what, what should my macros be dug or what my CA look, you've got a strap on your shoes and go for a walk, you know, start there, right? You don't need to worry about your micronutrients. At this point. You just need to do something. Stick to the basics. There's certain basic things that almost all fitness people and nutrition people, you know, all agree upon. Now there's always fringes, but drink lots of water, get lots of sleep, right? Eat clean foods.

1 (42m 38s): Even if you're a vegan, people are gonna tell you to eat clean vegetables. Right. If you're a carnivore, they're gonna tell you to clean meat, right. Not processed. These are all things that everybody seems to agree upon to stick to those basics. And you'll be fine.

0 (42m 52s): Yeah. I love that. If you keep it simple and you stick to the basics, it's a lot easier to follow, right? Yeah. As opposed to just, just like you said, there's information out there. It's so abundant. It's easy to get confused. And when you get confused, you don't take action and work with Brian.

1 (43m 9s): Brian's an amazing coach. And not just saying this, this is your show, but you are man. You're a great coach and anybody that's on the fence and thinking, I should, I shouldn't, I take action guys. You don't have tomorrow, right? I mean, excuse me, you don't have yesterday. You have tomorrow and go live in Groundhog's day.

0 (43m 27s): I love that. Well, Doug, this has been good. We've hit on a lot of great things surrounding mindset, eating and sleep and et cetera. So I really, I really appreciate you coming on and yeah. Looking forward to staying in touch in the future.

1 (43m 41s): Absolutely. And again, congratulations to you and your beautiful wife, you know, it's very exciting stuff. So love what you do,

0 (43m 48s): Brian. Thanks, Doug. Appreciate it. Got it. Thanks for listening to the get lean eat clean podcast. I understand there are millions of other podcasts out there and you've chosen to listen to mine. And I appreciate that. Check out the show notes@briangrin.com for everything that was mentioned in this episode, feel free to subscribe to the podcast and share it with a friend or family member. That's looking to get their body back to what it once was. Thanks again, and have a great day.

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